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Old 05-16-2011, 07:02 PM
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Disappearing Oil

So what is probably happening to my oil? There aren't ever in oil puddles under my car after I park it a while, but my oil level is going down fairly quickly. I have a 2001 5th gen with 105,000 miles. My engine seems to be running fine. I had to add 2 quarts a month ago. Now, my oil is reading low again.
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Re: Disappearing Oil

welcome to the vtec world, where the engines burn just about as much oil as they do gas.
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Is this a familiar sight when you look in the rear view?

lol Welcome to the Prelude world! The 2nd-5th Generations all are plagued with oil burning sometime in their lives! Some engines more that others. Your engine has decided to become a 2 stroke!

My advice is to carry motor oil in your trunk at all times and just check your oil once a week at least.

Your answer to the problem is piston rings piston rings piston rings!
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Re: Disappearing Oil

That's exactly it! I never see white smoke in the rearview. And I rarely ever even go into vtec. maybe once every couple weeks for a bout 10 seconds.
How much would it cost to fix whatever is wrong with my piston rings?
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Old 05-17-2011, 02:34 AM
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Re: Disappearing Oil

It's not only vtec that causes oil to be burned. The horrible truth is, all engines carry that possibility! My Prelude, the 3rd gen was offered with the b21a1 which burns oil notoriously from worn piston rings. The piston is lubricated and kept from melting itself to the cylinder walls by oil, if I recall correctly there is a compression ring and two oil rings, the compression ring keeps the combustion chamber air tight during the compression stroke (4 stroke engines: suck, squeeze, bang, blow.) and the oil rings wipe off the oil thats lubricating the piston so that it isn't in the combustion chamber while it is in the ignition stroke (bang). Worn piston rings can cause low compression and can allow oil into the compression chamber which then gets mixed in with the air and fuel which leads to increased oil consumption. Black smoke from the exhaust can mean that your running lean which can lead to other issues in your motor like damaged spark plugs most commonly. It can also mean your car is burning oil. Another reason it can make the exhaust black is if you aren't running catalytic converters which is a different reason, it is because more ummm soot is let out of the engine? Correct me if I'm wrong?

Replacing piston rings involves taking off your head and pulling the pistons from the block. You do that by removing the whole piston and the connecting rod along with it. I say drive the car how it is, oil is cheaper than a rebuild, if you have to pass emissions soon then thats a different story.
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Re: Disappearing Oil

Other than your rings, your valve seals can cause you to burn a lot of oil also. Could be a combination of the two.
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Re: Disappearing Oil

I was puzzled at this problem whenever I had my Prelude for a month. For me, it was piston rings just like most Preludes. I would recommend hitting VTEC less if you like to prolong the stay of your oil. On the other hand, if you don't mind burning a quart of oil each time your Prelude hits vtec, go ahead.
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Re: Disappearing Oil

Sir...your best bet is to carry 1-2 qts of oil in your trunk for whenever you decide to make your motor go *RAWR!!!
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Re: Disappearing Oil

There is nothing wrong with your motor, Harry Houdini has come back from the dead to play a trick on you.
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Re: Disappearing Oil

That all sounds rite... But ive got a question... If im burning the oil wouldent I see black smoke out the exhaust??? I never see any smoke and I check everyday...
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That all sounds rite... But ive got a question... If im burning the oil wouldent I see black smoke out the exhaust??? I never see any smoke and I check everyday...
It's most noticable upon quick acceleration. At which time, I hope you're not looking behind you

It does burn during normal driving, but it immediately mixes with the passing flow of air and becomes all but invisible to the quick glancing driver.
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Re: Disappearing Oil

My prelude (5th gen) is definitly burning oil but i dont ever see black smoke, usualy white or grey. Would that still be oil burning?
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White is water(steam), blue is oil(burning), black is (unburnt)gas.
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V TECH oil consumption... Hmmm.... the car changes, but the story is the same....

Worn Rings, cylinders, valve guides, valve seals... out of spec, will cause oil from the crankcase to continuously be burned in the combustion chamber...

sometimes its not noticable.. not like the junk dodge caravans smoking up the highway... lol...

a little bit continously adds up to alot...

hence... add oil all the time.

overhaul the engine, or as mentioned above, keep 2 quarts with you in the trunk.
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Re: Disappearing Oil

I have the same problem, no oil leaks or nothin but when i do Get off in my prelude, i do see that grey smoke.

Thank god that it not burning as fast where i have to carry oil, but i do have to refill it. Not soo bad tho. i only have to refill when im messin with my buddies

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welcome to the vtec world, where the engines burn just about as much oil as they do gas.
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97LudeDOHC: your phone burns oil??? might wanna have that checked out bro

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Hey guys i jus got 98 5-spd with 196k on it n burning oil like every two days the check engine light on i think its the catalytic converter cause my exhaust is pure black n my engine hums i hit vtec alot but it ahouldnt burn this crazy also how many miles do ludes last ? All help is much love
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Hey guys i jus got 98 5-spd with 196k on it n burning oil like every two days the check engine light on i think its the catalytic converter cause my exhaust is pure black n my engine hums i hit vtec alot but it ahouldnt burn this crazy also how many miles do ludes last ? All help is much love
If you're burning that much oil, why do you keep intentionally hitting VTEC when you know that's basically oil burner mode?
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oh the irony.. prelude last only as much as you want to spend on it because they can last forever
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I try not to but on a open road it jus hit around 35-4 rpms but i wanna colve the oil problem because ive been driving with oil in the trunk and thats foreal? I didnt know that i heard like 220-300k but wordd
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