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Old 05-01-2011, 06:30 AM
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New cluster...problem arises

So I've had my 5spd swap for about 4 months now, and I love it! Today was the day that I finally swapped out of auto cluster for a manual one. When I installed it and went for a ride, I noticed the gas gauge was not moving at all. So I decided to go to the gas station and fill in gas to see if the needle of the gas gauge would move. But , it didn't. Is there something wrong? Anyone else run into this problem?
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possible the gauge doesnt work. the speedo and fuel are one piece inside and should only take about 10 minutes to switch. the odometer is also part of it. so you can keep your miles intact.
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anyone else have any suggestions?
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Re: New cluster...problem arises

Did you make sure you plugged in all 3 plugs in the back? If so and nothing works, them the cluster is bad, or at least that half. Also, did you just swap the RPM portion or the whole cluster?
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Re: New cluster...problem arises

I swapped the whole cluster, all 3 plugs in the back are all plugged right.

But before I put in the manual cluster, I moved the needle of the gas gauge to the point of where my actual gas was before I swapped my auto gauge cluster out. I double checked again and last night I put in $10 gas in, and I started my car today and it rose a few. Does it mean it works now or is it off still?
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Re: New cluster...problem arises

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I swapped the whole cluster, all 3 plugs in the back are all plugged right.

But before I put in the manual cluster, I moved the needle of the gas gauge to the point of where my actual gas was before I swapped my auto gauge cluster out. I double checked again and last night I put in $10 gas in, and I started my car today and it rose a few. Does it mean it works now or is it off still?

Annnnd theres your problem I'd be willing to bet. How did you move the needle? Casue if you didnt do it right you just fu*ked it yourself...
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Re: New cluster...problem arises

The needle was below the E line, so I used my finger to raise the needle to the middle half tank line.
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anyone else have any suggestions?
hmm, how should i take that. i gave you a sure fire, no hassle, straightforward way to fix your problem and you reply with this.... i could give you answers on the moving of the needle that you did but i dont think ill bother. cheers
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Re: New cluster...problem arises

I was just seeing if there were any more point of views of what could have happened. It always good to have more then one say about whats the potential problem.
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Re: New cluster...problem arises

Pretty sure you messed it up when you pushed the needle..
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Re: New cluster...problem arises

more opinions the better, for sure. sounded like you couldnt be bothered to take into consideration what i said. like your needle, ill tell you that you didnt hurt it at all by moving it like you did. the post above me thinks you did. ill upload a video of me playing with my needle all day and it will still work fine. your fuel gauge works on a simple concept of variable resistance. a current goes to the tank and depending on the fuel level only a certain amount of current comes back. then the voltage coming back only has the ability to turn the needle a certain distance. you can swap clusters all day and move the needles when they are out and when you start the car they will always go to a correct reading. unless they are broken internally. if your old gauge works and the new one doesnt, that rules out everything but the gauge itself. sound convincing.
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Re: New cluster...problem arises

But when I filled in gas the needle moved up a bit then where it was, but I'm not even sure if its even at the right spot of how much gas I have...sigh...
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Should I bring the needle back to below E and see if it would rise back to where it should be?
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sure try it. move it down to e then plug it back in. when you start the car it should move to where it needs to be. if it doesnt move at all and you know you have half a tank then its pooched. have to mention though, do not move the needle out of the range of motion that it would normally be under. i cant say what would happen then.
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Ok, thanks for your help, I'll give that a try tomorrow.
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Re: New cluster...problem arises

Should not have touched it....
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pull your cluster back out and you will see there are three screws directly behind the fuel guage. make sure they are tight. not overtight but firmly snug.
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Re: New cluster...problem arises

also you could just run it till the low fuel light turns on and if the needle isnt down to empty then you know its messed up. The low light doesnt have anything to do with needle position.
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