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Old 04-12-2011, 01:23 PM
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Carbon fiber hood quation

So I was looking into some carbon fiber hoods. One thing surprised me, they arent really carbon fiber. They are fiberglass with a layer of carbon fiber. Does anyone know where true carbon fiber OEM style hoods are sold? Are they all fiberglass with carbon on top? If this is all thats available, is carbon on the under side too?
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Re: Carbon fiber hood quation

Did you just want a dry carbon fiber hood or something?
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Re: Carbon fiber hood quation

That is how all carbon fiber products are made. Fiberglass skeleton with a carbon fiber top layer.

The only "full" carbon fiber products are those that you see on rally cars or race cars. The fiberglass for a street car is to give the carbon fiber more support for it to last longer than a hood that may get ripped off a race car on a normal practice day.

I was a little disappointed back when I found out as well.... but that's what we've got to work with :)
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Re: Carbon fiber hood quation

If your going for the dry non-clearcoat look your best bet would probably be like 3M vinyl di-noc.
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Re: Carbon fiber hood quation

There is no way I would put vinyl on my paint. Guess I'm just disappointed to hear they aren't really carbon fiber. I was planning on painting it to match the car anyway. Just leaving the under side raw carbon and adding some gold foil heat shielding. Looks like thats out now.
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Re: Carbon fiber hood quation

I'd rather have the fiberglass skeleton. More structure while still being light.
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Re: Carbon fiber hood quation

Then if im gonna paint it, should i just look at fiberglass? And any thoughts on hood struts?

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Hood struts=waste of money.
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Why is that? I like the idea of not having to prop it up. my girlfriends jetta has a strut and its nice.
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Re: Carbon fiber hood quation

You can make your own. Just go to a junkyard and take some out of a 94-97 accord trunk.
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Is there an diy on doing it?
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Re: Carbon fiber hood quation

For a cf hood, the weight isn't enough to properly compress gas shocks without trial and error with adjustment/ draining of the shock. - if that's what you ment.

the full setup the mid 90's accords have are too big for a hood.... I would know... i have one and considered it lol
maybe drilling trial and error with just the shock.. but that's still a really fat shock for a hood

as far as a fiberglass hood - majority of them weigh near stock weight. So you'd basically be going for looks if you were looking into one with vents. Cf hoods are more for the weight reduction, but with the daily driver in mind. They can take the abuse that fiberglass can't - and at the same time save weight.

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Re: Carbon fiber hood quation

Guess I should have been more specific. I dont want vents, cowl induction or any thing like that. I just wanted a OEM shape. But I wanted to paint the top to match the car. I only wanted to save weight but why pay extra for a sheet of carbon fiber that im gonna paint over. Hence i figured fiberglass is lighter than factory and cheaper than the common cf sheet on a fiberglass hood.
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Re: Carbon fiber hood quation

The cf hoods are 15lbs or more lighter than stock hoods. the fiberglass weigh more, but still a little less than stock.


for an OEM look - and wanting to save weight, just go CF. later down the road you can strip it and show the cf weave again if you choose to. I suggest hood pins.
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The cf hoods are 15lbs or more lighter than stock hoods. the fiberglass weigh more, but still a little less than stock.


for an OEM look - and wanting to save weight, just go CF. later down the road you can strip it and show the cf weave again if you choose to. I suggest hood pins.
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The cf hoods are 15lbs or more lighter than stock hoods. the fiberglass weigh more, but still a little less than stock.


for an OEM look - and wanting to save weight, just go CF. later down the road you can strip it and show the cf weave again if you choose to. I suggest hood pins.
Can you show me a true all carbon fiber hood? All I see are fiberglass with a layer of carbon on the top.

And I don't want hood pins. I prefer it look factory.
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^you need to read.
the only products for our cars are fiberglass skeletons with carbon fiber layered on top.

otherwise you will need to custom make your own.
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Pure carbon hoods are like over thousands... and without hood pins the thing will just fly off. I've had a carbon fiber hood before and it shakes vigorously without hood pins.
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Can you show me a true all carbon fiber hood? All I see are fiberglass with a layer of carbon on the top.

And I don't want hood pins. I prefer it look factory.
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Re: Carbon fiber hood quation

I think there is some misconception here....

Fiberglass structure is not for strength....its for cost reduction. Carbon fibers are much stronger than glass fibers as well as being lighter. The reason they are not in production is purely cost. To actually manufacture such an item the consumer price would be astronomical. Think of it this way. What does an aftermarket fiberglass fender cost $100?? A fiberglass hood with a layer of carbon is $500?? Pure carbon construction $?????? You do the math.


To o.p. unfortunately no one makes a product you are desiring.
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Re: Carbon fiber hood quation

I've heard hood struts can bend the hood. But I'd assume that's only if you have one. But they're still pointless. But if you like it go for it.
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and I say again. Without properly strapping down the pure carbon hood. It'll just fly off. I don't even think 2 hood pins would be enough. You can most likely get away with fiberglass/carbon fiber but I probably wouldn't even risk it. I have lots of friends who use that aerocatch and it's great.
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Fiberglass structure is not for strength....its for cost reduction. Carbon fibers are much stronger than glass fibers as well as being lighter. The reason they are not in production is purely cost. To actually manufacture such an item the consumer price would be astronomical. Think of it this way. What does an aftermarket fiberglass fender cost $100?? A fiberglass hood with a layer of carbon is $500?? Pure carbon construction $?????? You do the math.


To o.p. unfortunately no one makes a product you are desiring.
Carbon fiber isn't even close to being rigid enough on it's own to make a sturdy hood out of, at least in the girly weave that looks good to the eye. Real structural carbon fiber, like the kind they make jet cockpits out of, looks horrible. Carbon fiber has amazing tensile strength, but that's about it. Glass fibers are more rigid and provide better structural support.

But yes, I do agree that their reasoning is cost over function. lol.

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I've heard hood struts can bend the hood. But I'd assume that's only if you have one. But they're still pointless. But if you like it go for it.

Yes, you have to use weaker gas struts, or else the hood will bow outwards a small bit, and will prematurely crack over time.
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You can find the hood struts at Password JDM. They have there own design and the bolt right into oem bolt locations. They also have a bleeder valve and directions on how to relieve pressure in specifically for fiberglass and carbon fiber hoods.
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If im not mistaken that the purpose of a CF hood is mainly for weight reduction!!! To paint is almost like telling someone who is asking for directions to make 4 left turns bc by paintint it that you'll pretty much be in the same spot as you were with the stock hood. Bc by painting it you would add weight onto the hood!!!

I have a cf vented hood not by choice though. The hood that came with the car was a cheap aftermarket one that chipped paint n started to rust in certain spots and my boy offered his cf hood bc he wanted the newer version of that hood.

BTW in my experience....if your car isnt lowered and you have a cf hood that you should invest in hood pins bc I was driving a few times on stock height n cf hood and hittin about 120mph my hood pops up but thank god for the hood latch to keep it from flipping up n whackin my window!!! I then bought hood pins and was ok since then. I would like to have a OEM cf hood though!!! It's nice and clean looking!!!
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So if the carbon hoods that are sold for the 5th gen are nothing more than for look, can anyone show me an OEM style all fiberglass hood?
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Thats not what i mean. I know what my car's hood looks like. Does anyone have a link to a all fiberglass hood for a 5th gen? I seem to only be able to find the carbon ones.

I had a fiberglass hood for my nissan hardbody back in the day. It only cost me $130. And if im painting the top red anyway, id prefer all fiberglass.
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