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Thinking about selling the lude...

And getting a stick instead!!

Well, I've had my auto prelude for about 3 months now and I love her... but part of me wishes she was a stick. Only problem is... I don't know how to drive stick.

I've been debating this cause I've been thinking about putting a lip kit on and short ram intake..etc etc... but why would I do that I don't know whether i wanna keep her or not? If the tranny goes out I have three options: rebuild, swap, sell and buy 5spd. At the same time, I don't wanna spend $300+ dollars to do maintenince: timing belt, water pump, tensioner, etc if I'm not gonna keep her.

I'd rather sell her soon while the tranny is still smooth cause she shifts so smooth considering the rep of the SS tranny. But then I'd have to buy a beater to get a around in while I learn to drive a stick. I'd i'll definitely have to sell the car before I buy the stick cause I need the funds first. Then I have to get rid of the beater later also.

On top of that I'm a full time college student working part time, paying my own expenses. Do I wanna take this on anytime soon? I'm a little nervous about driving a stick... all I've ever known is auto *yikes* Not looking fwd to stalling in the middle of the road


I give myself till the end of the year to figure this out...
There's my rant... I'm just contemplating this as of now.
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Re: Thinking about selling the lude...

Just do a swap, you'll most likely save money, become more involved with your car, and might learn something new along the way, I know when I get my grant money in August, I'm doing my swap. As for driving a stick, its not rocket science, its all about clutch timing and release.
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Re: Thinking about selling the lude...

Well, I'm thinking about flipping my car and using the money to get a stick. Lemme know your swap goes =]

Oh gosh, you dunno me... driving a stick involves moving the seat ALL the way up, and I still can't reach the clutch properly.(Im under 5' >.<") my boyfriend refuses to put pedal boosters on his car so I can learn properly. LOL
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Re: Thinking about selling the lude...

Thats not a very nice bf...lol damn your short. In your case you should be able to learn just fine with boosters but yea at that size idk. Definitely either do a swap or sell and buy a stick. Either way you'll need a beater cuz swaps take a lot of parts and time. The easier route is probably sell and buy. Cheaper would probably be a swap but I think thats a much bigger headache personally
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Re: Thinking about selling the lude...

I personally wouldn't be willing to pay double the tax for buying a beater and buying another Prelude. If you find it simpler then do it.
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Re: Thinking about selling the lude...

this is gonna sound random but what color is the lude?

if its somethin like electron blue or one of the greens id convert it.

if its more common like silver id consider the sell...also does ur car have any odd factory options?

can also use the maintenance stuff as a chance to upgrade do somethin like a manual tensioner swap.

you can also save up and piece together the stuff for the swap.
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Thats not a very nice bf...lol damn your short. In your case you should be able to learn just fine with boosters but yea at that size idk. Definitely either do a swap or sell and buy a stick. Either way you'll need a beater cuz swaps take a lot of parts and time. The easier route is probably sell and buy. Cheaper would probably be a swap but I think thats a much bigger headache personally
If i can transfer schools by the end of the year then I won't really need a beater cause then I can bus to school since it's so close...if i can transfer. If i do get a beater it'd be like $500 junk car. LOL


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this is gonna sound random but what color is the lude?

if its somethin like electron blue or one of the greens id convert it.

if its more common like silver id consider the sell...also does ur car have any odd factory options?

can also use the maintenance stuff as a chance to upgrade do somethin like a manual tensioner swap.

you can also save up and piece together the stuff for the swap.
It's actually Black. I like it. If i get another one it'd be either white or black for sure. maybe silver...

umm... no it doesn't have any odd factory options that i'm aware of... just a spoiler...

when it comes down to it, I'll prolly go with whatever is the cheaper route... though I'm getting quite attached to my lude.

The only reason I'm considering selling instead of the swap is because I think I can flip the car for a slightly higher price then when I purchased it.
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Re: Thinking about selling the lude...

Yeah a swap will take you a while to find all the parts for it and everything, but if you end up doing that and the timing belt and everything then at least you will know when it was done and everything and your new timing belt will last you a while. Plus since your car was an auto the motor is probably in better condition than most of the manual motors because it is a little harder to rally an automatic than a manual. Just my 2 cents, plus my friend who has never really driven a manual bought one in california and learned how to drive it on his way back up to idaho, its not that hard.
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Re: Thinking about selling the lude...

5spd swap it if it has sentimental value to you. I love my lude and Im kinda in the same boat as you. Mine is a auto, im wanting to do a 5spd swap and I also dont know how to drive stick. Its really not that hard to come by parts. Just find part outs or ebay.

Also, if you do the swap, you can get new parts so you know they will last longer. Like a new clutch, flywheel, clutch master and slave cylinder etc etc.... You can also pick which trans you want.

And like said before, you will know whats been done to the car. Instead of wondering if the previous person messed anything up or drove it hard.
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too bad you dont live in new york. we have a law here in nyc that you cant have an auto prelude unless your a gay guy names gary
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Re: Thinking about selling the lude...

Don't be too worried about the ability to drive stick. It sounds/looks alot harder than it actually is. As for the shortness factor, you could do the old hillbilly thing and tie a phone book to your feet, lols.
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Re: Thinking about selling the lude...

Sell it! Sticks not to hard to learn!

Then buy a zed :p :ninja:
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Re: Thinking about selling the lude...

1. get all parts for swap 2. wait for a 3 day weekend or something. 3. do swap. much cheaper then the hassle of selling a car, buying a new one, registering a new one, buying another new lude and then registering that. and stick isn't hard at all. I learned on the way home when I picked mine up
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If only you lived by me id do your swap for 500 bucks lol

Just keep what you have for now I wouldn't chance getting a lemon will being a full time student
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Re: Thinking about selling the lude...

Are you kidding me. It was so hard and I was so pissed off when I had to learn it cuz I had already bought the car...

now I love it :)
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Re: Thinking about selling the lude...

I would just do a swap... Should be cheaper and way less hassle then buying a new car..


Um.... I'm sure you can get extensions for the pedals if you really need it.. You don't want to sit right up on the airbag.. It might hurt ur cute little face instead of protecting it

I learned how to drive a stick the day I bought my first car.. You are gonna stall it.. It not that big of a deal.. You will learn and get the hang of it..

You should go to a EMPTY parking lot lol and learn how to put it in reverse, back out, and then 1st gear.. Once you learn how to reverse and go into 1st you should get kinda get the hang of it and be able to go thru the other gears a little easier.

Tell your boyfriend NOT to yell at you if he's the one helping you learn to drive it.. It gets a little frustrating.. I made my ex cry when she was learning and I wasn't being mean just trying to help lol
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Whatever you do, I assure you that driving a stick isn't as hard as you think. I had to learn how in order to get my job as a parts driver all those yrs ago. The best way is to get on a hill. Then you learn easily how to "feel" the clutch versus the accelerator placement. Now I've driven a stick in everything from a Ford Ranger to a 1 ton Dodge, and even an old Bronco with 3 on the tree. I promise, if I can do it, you can do it. Good luck!
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too bad you dont live in new york. we have a law here in nyc that you cant have an auto prelude unless your a gay guy names gary
Leave gary alone!!! Afterall NYPOC does need a PACE car up front to lead us!!! Then again I heard his leading skills !!!
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Whatever you do, I assure you that driving a stick isn't as hard as you think. I had to learn how in order to get my job as a parts driver all those yrs ago. The best way is to get on a hill. Then you learn easily how to "feel" the clutch versus the accelerator placement. Now I've driven a stick in everything from a Ford Ranger to a 1 ton Dodge, and even an old Bronco with 3 on the tree. I promise, if I can do it, you can do it. Good luck!
Very good advice!

The hill thing works.. It will help you "feel" the clutch..

It really does seem harder than it really is.. I learned it and was good after a few days and now I don't even realize that I'm shifting and I hate to drive autos now
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Re: Thinking about selling the lude...

like everyone is saying just do a man trans swap def will safe money and you will be happier with it. as for not knowing how to drive man trans its very easy to learn, you will learn in a day(i taught myself wasn't very hard)
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Sell it! Sticks not to hard to learn!

Then buy a zed :p :ninja:
I stalked a Zed on the freeway once. Cause i always wanted one This clean white 300zx passed by and I pulled up right beside him just to see who was driving. But i think I freaked him out cuz he looked at me funny...

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too bad you dont live in new york. we have a law here in nyc that you cant have an auto prelude unless your a gay guy names gary
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5spd swap it if it has sentimental value to you. I love my lude and Im kinda in the same boat as you. Mine is a auto, im wanting to do a 5spd swap and I also dont know how to drive stick. Its really not that hard to come by parts. Just find part outs or ebay.

Also, if you do the swap, you can get new parts so you know they will last longer. Like a new clutch, flywheel, clutch master and slave cylinder etc etc.... You can also pick which trans you want.

And like said before, you will know whats been done to the car. Instead of wondering if the previous person messed anything up or drove it hard.
I think you pretty much convinced me to keep my car and do the 5spd swap when the tranny blows. When are you planning on doing the swap on your car?


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Whatever you do, I assure you that driving a stick isn't as hard as you think. I had to learn how in order to get my job as a parts driver all those yrs ago. The best way is to get on a hill. Then you learn easily how to "feel" the clutch versus the accelerator placement. Now I've driven a stick in everything from a Ford Ranger to a 1 ton Dodge, and even an old Bronco with 3 on the tree. I promise, if I can do it, you can do it. Good luck!
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If only you lived by me id do your swap for 500 bucks lol

Just keep what you have for now I wouldn't chance getting a lemon will being a full time student
Yeah I'd pay someone $500 to a swap for me. I'm so not doing it myself!

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like everyone is saying just do a man trans swap def will safe money and you will be happier with it. as for not knowing how to drive man trans its very easy to learn, you will learn in a day(i taught myself wasn't very hard)
I just wanted to say.... interesting user name u got there....

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Um.... I'm sure you can get extensions for the pedals if you really need it.. You don't want to sit right up on the airbag.. It might hurt ur cute little face instead of protecting it

Tell your boyfriend NOT to yell at you if he's the one helping you learn to drive it.. It gets a little frustrating.. I made my ex cry when she was learning and I wasn't being mean just trying to help lol
Oh gosh... i couldn't imagine if I was prego one day... and my tummy was in the way and I couldn't scoot my seat all the way up to reach the pedals LOL
The thought of that just cracks me up!

He's only yelled at me once, cause he let me drive his S2k. I didn't angle his lowered car out of the parking lot and almost hit his bumper. He literally jumped out of his seat!

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I stalked a Zed on the freeway once. Cause i always wanted one This clean white 300zx passed by and I pulled up right beside him just to see who was driving. But i think I freaked him out cuz he looked at me
Hahaha! It's funny cause I once did the same thing! When I first wanted a zed I stalked one, turns out it was a girl driving, Probs crapping herself wondering why some guy was following and passing to see it haha!

I reckon he was more wondering why a 5 foot girl was trying to race :p
But honestly, the swap isn't too hard, just time consuming and you will need some know how ! Or sell up and buy a manual zed ! Just as fun and don't need to be tall to drive it lols!

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I have an auto prelude and I'm planning on doing a swap as well.
Will a F22 standard tranny work?
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Re: Thinking about selling the lude...

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I have an auto prelude and I'm planning on doing a swap as well.
Will a F22 standard tranny work?
yes any h or f (minus the f20c and f22c) will work fine. they all have differant gear ratios. and don't thread jack
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Well, I'm thinking about flipping my car and using the money to get a stick. Lemme know your swap goes =]

Oh gosh, you dunno me... driving a stick involves moving the seat ALL the way up, and I still can't reach the clutch properly.(Im under 5' >.<") my boyfriend refuses to put pedal boosters on his car so I can learn properly. LOL
Sadly I'm 5'11" +/- but I have to move the seat uncomfortably close to push the clutch in properly... And i just cannot get comfy, either my back is out of wack or I can't reach the clutch
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yes any h or f (minus the f20c and f22c) will work fine. they all have differant gear ratios. and don't thread jack
Ok, cool thx
btw, who's jack
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Sadly I'm 5'11" +/- but I have to move the seat uncomfortably close to push the clutch in properly... And i just cannot get comfy, either my back is out of wack or I can't reach the clutch
How is that possible?? At 5' 11" it should be easy for you to reach the clutch properly??
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How is that possible?? At 5' 11" it should be easy for you to reach the clutch properly??
I get in and adjust the seat to where my legs are comfy and then I can't reach the clutch, but then I pull myself uncomfortable close and then my knees are touching the dash. It's so weird. Never had a problem like this in my other cars. Sometimes I'll just take the Fox to work and college for that reason :/ I still love my lude though.
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Re: Thinking about selling the lude...

Most of this is "blah, blah, blah, who cares, blah, blah."

My question is, "Why would you need to buy a beater to learn how to drive a standard transmission?"

Second question, "Why are you asking us what you should do?"


Answer to first question: It is not hard to learn to do anything. Did you ever learn how to ride a bicycle? Then you can learn how to drive stick. You don't need to buy a beater to learn on. Just buy the 5spd prelude and it'll take you a day or two to figure it out. Maybe get a friend or parent to give you pointers.

Answer to second question: How the hell are we supposed to know your financial situation and/or mechanical aptitude?

I'll try to make this easy

Option 1: Rebuild transmission.
-Why? Yours is not broken.
-Rebuilding a trans is more expensive than buying a remanned one.
-It does not make it into a standard.
-You are rebuilding a unit with a known high failure rate that will just fail again.

Option 2: Installing a remanned transmission
-Why? Yours is not broken.
-It will not make it a standard
-You are replacing a unit with a known high failure rate with something of an equally high failure rate.

Option 3: 5spd swap
-If you do it yourself it will be cheaper, depending on your mechanical aptitude.
-If you have a shop do it, it will be more expensive.
-It will fix your "I want a stick" problem.

Option 4: Sell the car and buy a 5spd
-Depending on the price of the car and what you sell yours for, you may be making out or losing a lot of money.
-You will inherit a new set of problems, or maybe you'll buy something even better than what you had.
-You will have to do maintenance items on it either way.
-But it fixes your "I want a stick" problem.




Basically what I'm getting at here is, rebuilding or installing an automatic trans is pointless. Because if what your after is a stick because A.) you want one or B.) you want to head off auto trans failure...you will have not accomplished either by rebuilding or replacing your trans with the one you have.

Moving forward, 5spd swap vs. sell and buy. I don't know your financial situation or whether or not you can do any kind of mechanical work by yourself, so you will have to adjust your math accordingly.

Money it will take to do the 5 spd swap including parts and labor.

Minus

Money it will take to buy a new car.

Plus

Money you will receive by selling your car.


You can start there to see which one fits your budget better. I'm a college student as well, and unless your parents are bankrolling you quite a lot or you have a damn good job, you ain't got money to do either one. But I don't know what kind of money you have, so your on your own to figure that out.




Keep in mind that whether you sell your car or keep the one you have, maintenance is unavoidable. Such things as timing belts are inevitable, so they shouldn't be part of the equation. Also keep in mind that your car probably has problems. Are those problems so severe that you'd be better off selling it and starting fresh, or are they not so bad? Keep in mind that a new car (well, in the case of preludes, at least 10 years old) will come with its own set of problems, that may be better or worse than the ones you already have.



These are decisions you need to think about, and research, before you know for sure. Don't think about learning to drive stick when making your decision. Learning to drive stick is not any harder than learning how to drive a car, bicycle, ATV, dirtbike, or anything else. Its just different. You'll get used to it, not a big deal.
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