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Old 04-08-2011, 01:21 AM
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Never ending repair... A continuing Saga.

I posted about this once before

Here's the story

Bought my 2000 SH in 2009 from "Honest John's" used car lot. The thing ran fine for about a day and then the check engine/ATTS lights went on, drove it anyways because i needed it for 100 mile each way daily commute and it was cheaper than my F350 Powerstroke. About 9 mos. into it the engine self destructs. I thought is was the dreaded timing belt, but no it was pin that holds the cam sprocket that sheared. Massive head damage that included the head allowing the H2O to fill two of the cylinders. This was at 70 plus mph.

Thinking it was timing belt and not having the $ to fix it I left it parked for about a year and one half. Oops.

Here's where it gets fun. Last July I finally got the $ to have it fixed. Had the engine pulled. Took it to a place that had helped me with a racing motor twenty five years earlier (yes I am a bit older that most every one on this forum). Had the whole thing re-manufactured with new everything Including being re-sleeved to replace the destroyed cylinders from the unknown sitting H2O. Three months later they finally get it done. At this point I am working on Catalina Island and don't need the car so no big deal. They finish it and I take it back to the shop to have all the pieces parts put back on and get it stuffed back under the hood. I am starting to get excited about driving it again. SIX months later they finally get it under the hood and pick it up. BAM engine and ATTS lights pop on. Back to the shop for diagnostics. Here is where it gets to be fun. Turns out that the Cat is installed backwards and that is tripping the sensors. So the owner of the shop asks me about prior work I had done to the car. I go "what work?" so he 'splains it to me.

It goes on. He keeps the car for another month and finally turns the cat around. I bring it home and park it for a few weeks because I am still spending me weekdays on the Rock (Catalina). ten I notice the oil stain under my brand new $4,000 of investment into a car that I only paid $7,200 for to start with. Back to the shop for another week. I bring it home for another week and take it be smog checked (California) the next week end. I get it to the smog shop they put it in back. Two minutes later the guy comes out and asks me about whether I have a CARBS sticker for the sort air ram that it came with. NO. So now I have a cheaper AES CAI that came with the sticker. Go to start it up and find that the battery is now defunct enough to not hold a charge for more than an hour. Swap out the battery and drive the car around for awhile to get the reset done so i can smog it. pull back into the drive way and see a new oil spot. Check the oil and then take it to be smogged. Thought I had driven it enough to be good. Smog guy pulls it in and low and behold the Check engine light is back on. Take it back home and when I shut it off and get out of the car I find steam and the H2O pouring out from the car. Did I mention that I am now over $4,000 into this car? It's a rhetorical question so you don't need to answer. the next week and back into the shop. Now I am finally off the Rock for good and glad to be home. Looking forward to driving the Lude and teaching my 17 yr. old daughter all about clutches and the wonders of Vtec. Back to the shop as I pull into the parking lot I hear this nasty clanging rubbing sound from the back passenger side wheel. Who knows what this is I will deal with it later. I just want the car to stop leaking oil and the H20 and ... to not have that (insert favorite descriptive adjective here) CHECK ENGINE/ATTS lite come back on again. Well the oil was coming out of a sensor and from some hoses (he thinks). He (the owner of the shop) replaced all the heater hoses and the leak is stopped. I let the car idle in my drive way tonight for a half and hour and then drove it around the neighborhood for a while trying not to get pulled over since the car has 09 registration stickers on it. So far no lites!


That leave waiting to see if the oil stops leaking from where ever it is coming from. I will know that in the morning.

And taking the back wheel off to find the source of that noise. No big.

Now here is the question WTH is with the cat being in backwards. This is the one thing I can not figure out. How freekin stupid does one have to be to remove a cat and put it in backwards. Is this even possible with this car? I haven't been under it to look at it so I don't know. Yet.



GAH!!!







Tomorrow, with luck, it will pass smog, get registered, stop leaking various fluids, stop making horrible noises from the rear, and get out on the road and get more than the sixty miles on the new engine than it has now.


Hope you have been entertained. This saga will continue there is more.
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Re: Never ending repair... A continuing Saga.

Welcome to the site! but, i would have never taken the car back to your guy if it took a month for him to turn the cat around. no thanks. good luck with it, and now you know the joys of owning a prelude/money pit.

as far as it being possible to install a cat backwards, yes it is. your mechanic is just a friggen moron. sorry. the secondary 02 sensor should be after the cat.
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Re: Never ending repair... A continuing Saga.

this sucks. and i feel bad for you.

and biglegs, i don't think the cat was installed by his mechanic? previous owner possibly?
either way best of luck with the fixes! hope everything works out in the end
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the flanges on oem style cats only match up one way
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Re: Never ending repair... A continuing Saga.

Wow. Sounds like you got the shaft. However, a lot of the problems you're having now are self-inflicted due to leaving the car with water in the cylinders for over a year. Once you get everything in check, it'll be smooth sailing.

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I posted about this once before

Here's the story

Bought my 2000 SH in 2009 from "Honest John's" used car lot. The thing ran fine for about a day and then the check engine/ATTS lights went on, drove it anyways because i needed it for 100 mile each way daily commute and it was cheaper than my F350 Powerstroke. About 9 mos. into it the engine self destructs. I thought is was the dreaded timing belt, but no it was pin that holds the cam sprocket that sheared. Massive head damage that included the head allowing the H2O to fill two of the cylinders. This was at 70 plus mph.

Thinking it was timing belt and not having the $ to fix it I left it parked for about a year and one half. Oops.

Here's where it gets fun. Last July I finally got the $ to have it fixed. Had the engine pulled. Took it to a place that had helped me with a racing motor twenty five years earlier (yes I am a bit older that most every one on this forum). Had the whole thing re-manufactured with new everything Including being re-sleeved to replace the destroyed cylinders from the unknown sitting H2O. Three months later they finally get it done. At this point I am working on Catalina Island and don't need the car so no big deal. They finish it and I take it back to the shop to have all the pieces parts put back on and get it stuffed back under the hood. I am starting to get excited about driving it again. SIX months later they finally get it under the hood and pick it up. BAM engine and ATTS lights pop on. Back to the shop for diagnostics. Here is where it gets to be fun. Turns out that the Cat is installed backwards and that is tripping the sensors. So the owner of the shop asks me about prior work I had done to the car. I go "what work?" so he 'splains it to me.

It goes on. He keeps the car for another month and finally turns the cat around. I bring it home and park it for a few weeks because I am still spending me weekdays on the Rock (Catalina). ten I notice the oil stain under my brand new $4,000 of investment into a car that I only paid $7,200 for to start with. Back to the shop for another week. I bring it home for another week and take it be smog checked (California) the next week end. I get it to the smog shop they put it in back. Two minutes later the guy comes out and asks me about whether I have a CARBS sticker for the sort air ram that it came with. NO. So now I have a cheaper AES CAI that came with the sticker. Go to start it up and find that the battery is now defunct enough to not hold a charge for more than an hour. Swap out the battery and drive the car around for awhile to get the reset done so i can smog it. pull back into the drive way and see a new oil spot. Check the oil and then take it to be smogged. Thought I had driven it enough to be good. Smog guy pulls it in and low and behold the Check engine light is back on. Take it back home and when I shut it off and get out of the car I find steam and the H2O pouring out from the car. Did I mention that I am now over $4,000 into this car? It's a rhetorical question so you don't need to answer. the next week and back into the shop. Now I am finally off the Rock for good and glad to be home. Looking forward to driving the Lude and teaching my 17 yr. old daughter all about clutches and the wonders of Vtec. Back to the shop as I pull into the parking lot I hear this nasty clanging rubbing sound from the back passenger side wheel. Who knows what this is I will deal with it later. I just want the car to stop leaking oil and the H20 and ... to not have that (insert favorite descriptive adjective here) CHECK ENGINE/ATTS lite come back on again. Well the oil was coming out of a sensor and from some hoses (he thinks). He (the owner of the shop) replaced all the heater hoses and the leak is stopped. I let the car idle in my drive way tonight for a half and hour and then drove it around the neighborhood for a while trying not to get pulled over since the car has 09 registration stickers on it. So far no lites!


That leave waiting to see if the oil stops leaking from where ever it is coming from. I will know that in the morning.

And taking the back wheel off to find the source of that noise. No big.

Now here is the question WTH is with the cat being in backwards. This is the one thing I can not figure out. How freekin stupid does one have to be to remove a cat and put it in backwards. Is this even possible with this car? I haven't been under it to look at it so I don't know. Yet.



GAH!!!







Tomorrow, with luck, it will pass smog, get registered, stop leaking various fluids, stop making horrible noises from the rear, and get out on the road and get more than the sixty miles on the new engine than it has now.


Hope you have been entertained. This saga will continue there is more.
I might have the same issue on my auto, though the symtoms are slightly different. there are times I heard a growl and some vibration at just above idle, and often get it at 2200-2500 RPM. I just had the Honda dealer look into it and they found the balancer belt had stretched quite a bit, with over 1" of play, and they replaced it. the extended warantee is finally paying off though.

The problem is still there and it doesn't seem to matter if the engine is hot or cold. what i did was that i drag it to the repair shop here in Georgia and that costs about $300. Agree on phantom..replaced the shaft and the car is working well...hope this helps.


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