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interference of non-interference?

ok so my timing belt snapped.. my car is at the shop. i got a 1999 prelude base... ive been looking online whether or not this particular engine is an interference engine or not.

ive seen everything online from:

1.yes it is an interference engine
2.yes it is a non interference engine
3.every prelude except the last gens are interference.
4.it is a non interference engine, but when in vtec becomes an interference engine.


help me out guys.
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Re: interference of non-interference?

it is interference... sometimes people are lucky and no bent valves
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it is interference... sometimes people are lucky and no bent valves


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depending on how fast you were going when it snapped, you might get lucky and have no bent valves. you would be very very lucky if this were the case.
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Re: interference of non-interference?

i was doing about 25mph. then my freakin stupid self tried to crank it. lol
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Re: interference of non-interference?

what happened when you tried to crank it? did it jolt to a stop? if it did then i'm almost 100% sure you bent a valve man, i hope you didnt but yeah they're interference engines and if you tried to crank it with a broken belt its probably bent something up
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Re: interference of non-interference?

hondas are interference but 99 percent of the time nothing happens. thats y if someone is selling a honda on craigslist saying timing belt broke you can usually pic up a new car for cheap
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hondas are interference but 99 percent of the time nothing happens. thats y if someone is selling a honda on craigslist saying timing belt broke you can usually pic up a new car for cheap


uhhhhhh WTFF are you smoking???

the definition of interference engines means there isn't sufficient clearance between the pistons and valves where if the cams stop turning, the pistons WILL slam into the valves, bending a coupla valves and damaging the pistons.
99% of the time this IS what happens!
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Re: interference of non-interference?

it is interference, i got lucky when i jumped timing and nothing happenend, but i also didnt try to crank it again.
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Re: interference of non-interference?

some one doesnt no hondas or worked on them enough to no shiit so hey wen your timing belt breaks on ur car hit me up ill take it off your hands for cheap
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uhhhhhh WTFF are you smoking???

the definition of interference engines means there isn't sufficient clearance between the pistons and valves where if the cams stop turning, the pistons WILL slam into the valves, bending a coupla valves and damaging the pistons.
99% of the time this IS what happens!
Actually... Most of the time H series dont have issues with the valves hitting the pistons.

Its usually the valves hitting the valves that causes the issues. Open an intake and exhaust valve at the same time and ding.. bent... This is due to the orientation of the valve angles.
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some one doesnt no hondas or worked on them enough to no shiit so hey wen your timing belt breaks on ur car hit me up ill take it off your hands for cheap
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Actually... Most of the time H series dont have issues with the valves hitting the pistons.

Its usually the valves hitting the valves that causes the issues. Open an intake and exhaust valve at the same time and ding.. bent... This is due to the orientation of the valve angles.



thatsssss funnyyyyy. this was my 2nd H23 that i blew up, from guess what... timing belt skipping 3-4 teeth!!
hmmmm, what are those marks/dents in the pistons?? they SURPRISINGLYYY had the same exact radius as a valve. wonderrr how that happened, hmmmmm





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hondas are interference but 99 percent of the time nothing happens. thats y if someone is selling a honda on craigslist saying timing belt broke you can usually pic up a new car for cheap
dude i hope ur right about the 99% of the time of heads not being bent..lol a week before my timing belt blew i dropped 3k in the car.
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usually valves dont get bent to find out simple thing to do take off valve cover check out how it looks
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Re: interference of non-interference?

ok so i do have bent valves.
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Re: interference of non-interference?

so now you got to do some work and remove head and hope pistons and block arent messed up if blocks fine you can replace pistons if needed and get head checked and if you can get it rebuilt
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so now you got to do some work and remove head and hope pistons and block arent messed up if blocks fine you can replace pistons if needed and get head checked and if you can get it rebuilt
Looks like that must have been one of those 1% times where it did happen right? Lol or was I right when I said I'm almost 100% sure he bent something?
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