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Bad Engine, Resleave?

So I removed my engine that was knocking today. CYl #2&#3 have bad scoring in the cylinder walls, and the pistons are trashed. Only option is to resleave block if I am going to save it. Head appears good to save.

Anyone have any idea what it costs for new pistons and releave the block? Am I better off just getting a JDM engine. What options are there for new pistons/resleave that arent going to cost a fortune? I was originally planning on installing S pistons to bump compression a little, and upgrade valvetrain.
Anyone ever seen this before? Any idea on cause? I am guessing it didn't have very frequent oil changes prior to my recent purchase of it. Little Burnt oil inside, and shiny silver in oil.


What kind of power can be expected with new sleaves/pistons, and upgraded cams/springs/retainers. What can be expected to be spent on this type of rebuild.


Car is a 1999 Prelude Base, with SS Tranny(for now).
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Re: Bad Engine, Resleave?

Well how bad is the "bad" scoring? Because you might be able to bore it .25 over instead of resleeving the block, then you could get the .25 over type-s pistons and that would save you a lot of money!
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Re: Bad Engine, Resleave?

deep enough to feel it with fingers. I didn't know you could bore these enginesI was under the impression you had to sleve them? Where is the best place to order type S pistons from?

Will have to check inside of block and find out why the middle two cylinders were not getting oil on them to lube the pistons in the sleve. Looks like they tried to seize in there.

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Re: Bad Engine, Resleave?

Just called the machine shop and they arent sure if you can bore the engine with the factory sleves. Anyone know of a maching shop near chicago, or one I can ship too.
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Well how bad is the "bad" scoring? Because you might be able to bore it .25 over instead of resleeving the block, then you could get the .25 over type-s pistons and that would save you a lot of money!
Correct me if I'm wrong (provide proof, in other words) but FRM cylinders usually only take .10 O/S boring of the cylinders.
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Re: Bad Engine, Resleave?

I am guessing that is what he meant, just different terminology. 0.25mm = 0.010"
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Correct me if I'm wrong (provide proof, in other words) but FRM cylinders usually only take .10 O/S boring of the cylinders.
Well they sell .25mm oversized type s pistons ill find a link in a second lol, and yes you can bore our cylinders I am sure of it, you do not wanna boost after that though, mind putting up some pics of your cylinder walls?

EDIT: here is the link http://www.icbmotorsport.com/jdmprbb6tysp2.html
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Re: Bad Engine, Resleave?

Will get pictures tommorrow and take to machine shop to see what they say. Does anyone have Honda part #s for those pistons? I can get them from the dealer here at wholesale if I can get a part #. The only ones they looked up were the Prelude SH ones.
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Will get pictures tommorrow and take to machine shop to see what they say. Does anyone have Honda part #s for those pistons? I can get them from the dealer here at wholesale if I can get a part #. The only ones they looked up were the Prelude SH ones.
Do you want the USDM ones or the Type S ones? Also you will either have A or B or a mixture of A and B pistons. It says on the top of the pistons and also on the top of the block it will be something like AAAA or BBBB or ABAB or BAAB you need to know those before you order new pistons
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Re: Bad Engine, Resleave?

Sell me your engine! that's what you should do.
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Re: Bad Engine, Resleave?

You CANNOT bore FRM cylinder walls!!!! You can however lightly hone them, But if you can feel the scratches with your fingernail, you can either re-sleeve or find yourself another motor, prefferably the jdm H22a.
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Re: Bad Engine, Resleave?

Darton sleeves and type-s pistons?

I'd go with that over a new engine since you say that the head looks good except for those two things. Keep in mind too that when you redo your current engine it technically will have less miles on it than even a JDM swap might have, since you're buying brand new parts.
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Re: Bad Engine, Resleave?

So, I found a JDM H22A yesterday and bought it. Shop sold it to me for $1000 OTD, and gave me a 6month parts and labor warranty on it. That is going to be way cheaper than messing with the engine I have. I rechecked the cylinders and they arent as bad as I thought, but still would need honed. Head is in good shape, and would definately need new pistons/rings/bearings. I figured the engine will be cheaper to just get the JDM one since I dont plan on keeping the car that long.




What do I need to swap from my motor to the JDM engine? I see the JDM has an internal coil on the dizzy. What else needs to be switched over? I bought a gasket set for the engine so I am changing all gaskets/seals/water pump, belts, before I install it.
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