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lower?

ok so like ive said before, my baby is all stock and its getting kinda boring seeing all these clean and low ludes on here. so i tried searching for some lowering forums but cant find what im lookin for. since im a TOTAL noob about this lowering business, whats better? springs or coil overs bc i have noo clue. its just bothers me how high the back of my car is. so any advice/ help is appreciated
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Re: lower?

whatever you do plz DONT cut ur springs like some kids do in their lil civics..thats hella gay brah. lol

might as well do a complete suspension job including ground controls, but if not just get lowering springs.. i have tokicos w/ eiback coilovers.. comfy and not too stiff. best part i can adjust the ride height.
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Re: lower?

If all you want is to go low, then a good set of performance struts and lowered springs is all you need, and the cheapest way. Ground Control coilovers with Koni Yellow or KYB AGX adjustable struts is a popular choice, used by daily drivers and racers alike; and the ability to adjust your ride height as you go is one of the reasons.
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the question is how much are you willing to spend?
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Our stock struts will be fine if you dont do anything crazy all im running at the moment are Skunk2 coilovers. Theyre a pretty good price and the ride quality is good. Dont get springs youll regret it for sure.
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KYB struts with some tein or skunk 2 lowering springs. You will get a better ride with lowering springs..
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Re: lower?

check out the stance section. also, get a rear lip
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Re: lower?

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Coilovers should give you adjustability of ride height to set where you want it
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Re: lower?

if your going to be at the tri state meet i can give you skunk2 springs for 120 brand new never used
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well idk how much anything cost so i guess ill jst see the different prices and see from there
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Re: lower?

so im hearing performance struts and lowered springs and them im hearing coilovers..
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Re: lower?

^Do more research and not just this board

This topic has literally been covered an infinite amount of times for every tuner car forum ever and the information is definitely out there

Just depends on your needs/wants [as well as budget]
For some, shock/spring combo is low enough for them
And others, want to go lower/have more adjustability, coilovers is the answer
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Re: lower?

if your stock struts are good you can get away with putting lowering springs(like the ones i offered you for $120) all you have to do is go to a shop and have them put the new springs into your struts.. if your looking for a dumped look its better to go with a full coilover system which will cost you anywhere from $700-$1500
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^Lowering springs on stock shocks is not recommended
You can "get away" with it but it will wear them out a lot faster
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^Lowering springs on stock shocks is not recommended
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Sorry to go off topic, but your ride is crazy sexy x haha whats the specs on those wheels and tires, and are you using struts or springs?
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Sorry to go off topic, but your ride is crazy sexy x haha whats the specs on those wheels and tires, and are you using struts or springs?
Well he'd have to have both?

but from his previous posts and how dumped his sweet ass ride is, I'm assuming he has a nice set of coilovers.
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jersey, eh?

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Sorry to go off topic, but your ride is crazy sexy x haha whats the specs on those wheels and tires, and are you using struts or springs?
Lol thanks thanks

Im on Koni/GC [dont recommend it if you're going this low]
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^^ your car = hellaflush + stance nation. so sexy... wish I could rock that in Canada:P

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Lol thanks thanks

Im on Koni/GC [dont recommend it if you're going this low]
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And no the roads arent perfect where I live
wow so your on 18's with 35's.. Are the Koni/GC coilovers? Im guessing they are.. I'm wanting to put 18's on mine, only thing is i see nothing but 17s on most ludes here.. not a bad thing, could do 17's with 40's, but im in love with how that car's stance is.. i want that lol, i will have it! Coilovers im guessing would be the best, i have a set i got for my old car, but i dont really know much about them, if theyd fit on my lude or best how harsh will the ride be
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^^^ sure tires w/ 35s look siiikkk!!! but damn, if u hit an uneven surface, bump or pot hole ur fuked, and if u hit it at higher speed ur rims could be history... i had 35 on mine a while back and i felt every damn crack in the road. shiiittt. now im on Michelins 215/45/17s and its much better.
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Ground Controls are just sleeves the Konis are shocks. So in the formal sense no.
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Icon5 LOWERING : Appearance vs Performance vs Practically

On the subject of lowering ones car a person has to balance the appearance vs performance vs practically before making such a mod. I will examine the various considerations .

1: Appearance: Lowering your car to the point that the top of the tire is even with the top of the wheel well by lowering your car by about 1 1/2 " can improve the appearance of the car by making the wheel better fill out the hole its fit in . Lowering your car more then an 1 1/2" gives the appearance to average person of a car the appears broken partially by the funny way the car bounces around as it goes down the road.Their are a minority of people that find beauty in a car thats slammed to the ground and if thats your thing then so be it.

2:On street practically: The Prelude in response to styling trends and to improving performance has been lowered over time as shown in the list below.

1st gen Prelude: 6.7 "
2nd gen Prelude: 6.0 "
3rd gen Prelude: 5.7 "
4th gen Prelude: 5.7"
5th gen Prelude: 4.5 "



Anyone who has driven a 5th gen Prelude on the street for any length of time knows that one could argue that Honda may have gone to far when they dropped the street driven car ground clearance to less then 5". An example of what I mean can be found by clicking on the link below where people discuss the problem of getting over a speed bump to get to a car meet and another suggest that they have me come and pick him up (lol) in my stock road height car.

east coast prelude meet 2011 - Virginia Prelude Owners Association VAPOA.com

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Not to mention that some of us probably can't get into that campground. Thankyou monster speedbump. My ass would be stuck haha unless I could get Josh to raise my car before the meet.
Mackie, I agree, I would like to see more as far as an itinerary because it can't just be a "oh let's bs around the campsite all weekend" sort of thing. Well. I guess it can but yeah.
[QUOTE=GreenLude;6779]i would be able to pick it up tomorrow but i can't because i don't know how to drive and not hit potholes.[QUOTE]=GreenLude;6779]

man that sucks.. maybe RT could give you a lift

Ha Ha Ha :These two posts just go to prove the point that the best car is the one thats set up right for the conditions its being driven on be it on the track or the street.Why people re-engineer their car in such impractical ways is a case of form over function run a muck.


Examples of damage to my stock ride height, 1999 Prelude with 145k miles on it.



Performance considerations:

a: Braking: Your Prelude has engineered into it anti dive and anti squat geometry that gives gives the car some of the same advantages of a lowered car without actually lowering it.Also one of the braking related advantages of lowering a car comes from the reduction of the transfer of weight from the rear to the front of the car under heavy braking enabling the rear brakes to do more of the job of stopping the car. Unfortunately this advantage is not realized by most drivers of lowered cars because they don't re tune their brakes by using adjustable proportioner valves to send additional hydraulic pressure to the rear brakes .

b:Cornering : Your double wishbone suspension is designed to change its alignment settings during high speed cornering as the strut spring compresses keeping the tires contact patch normal with the road. This aspect of the Preludes suspension gives the car some of the advantages of a lowered car without actually lowering your car which is great for a street driven sports car.

c: Cars roll center: The 5th gen Prelude made some changes to the cars geometry that lower the cars effective roll center without actually lower the car which give the driver of this street driven car some of the advantages of a lowered car without the potential hazards of lowering your car.

In conclusion whether or not to lower the car has to be a balance between appearance vs performance vs practically with the thought in mind that some of the advances of a lowered car are already engineered into the car by the great engineering effort of brilliant Honda engineers.

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^^^ sure tires w/ 35s look siiikkk!!! but damn, if u hit an uneven surface, bump or pot hole ur fuked, and if u hit it at higher speed ur rims could be history... i had 35 on mine a while back and i felt every damn crack in the road. shiiittt. now im on Michelins 215/45/17s and its much better.
I hit uneven surfaces and many potholes almost everyday lol
Just have to be aware of the road and try your best to avoid them but its inevitable its going to happen

And I've been perfectly fine riding like this for over a year
Thanks for your concern though
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jersey, eh?

what part?
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Re: lower?

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I hit uneven surfaces and many potholes almost everyday lol
Just have to be aware of the road and try your best to avoid them but its inevitable its going to happen

And I've been perfectly fine riding like this for over a year
Thanks for your concern though
fasho just lookin out pimpin.. lol
there's too many speed bumps around here and roads are ****ty for the most part.. its sacramento. lol but at least i dnt live in Frisco, i'd be pissed goin up and down thru them intersections.
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