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Vacuum Valve did I F*** up? Please help

Hey guys I'm putting new vacuum valves on the Lude I removed one close to the intake and it spat out anti freeze I think? I'm not to sure in this picture i will show you witch valve I mean. I'm a little worried that I messed something up. Please help thanks.
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Re: Vacuum Valve did I F*** up? Please help

thats your iacv. no worries. might get a bubble in your coolant, but its pretty easy to bleed. i wouldnt worry about it though. top off the coolant and your good.
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Re: Vacuum Valve did I F*** up? Please help

Okay thanks. DO I have to bleed it before I put the new vacuum valve on? Where do I top it up? Sorry about being so weird new to Preludes and cars lol.
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Re: Vacuum Valve did I F*** up? Please help

no need to bleed it really, you just lost a bit of coolant. are you replacing the iacv? and to top off the coolant... make sure your car is cool, open the radiator cap, pour coolant in till its full, put cap back on and done.

bleeding the lines is another story, but still easy.
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Re: Vacuum Valve did I F*** up? Please help

Oh okay no I'm not replacing the iacv just the hose putting in all blue hoses.
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youre good then. just check your fluid level.
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Re: Vacuum Valve did I F*** up? Please help

Thank you very much!! Was getting worried there. You have been a big help.
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no worries, if you need help with anything prelude related hit me up...
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Re: Vacuum Valve did I F*** up? Please help

wow wait!!! dont replace THAT hose with a vacuum line. It spat out Coolant because it is in fact a coolant line, not a vacuum line. If you replace it with the ****ty/weaker vacuum line, it will probably burst(cooling systems are pressurized). go with the blue line for the vacuum but save ur self for last on and use rubber coolant line for that....
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pretty sure its the same silicone hoses as the samco rad hoses. he just mistook it for a vac line.
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pretty sure its the same silicone hoses as the samco rad hoses. he just mistook it for a vac line.
ummm im gonna say HIGHLY doubtful on that one. theres a reason those are so expensive.. they have fabric of a sort(not sure what exactly) all woven through them to keep em from bursting or expanding through the heat and pressure. IE: they are actually designed for it.

where as 99% of the rest of them are not designed for it.
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silicone can handle the pressure, and heat. they are used for vac lines as well as rad lines. the only thing i wouldnt use them on is fuel,oil, brake or ps fluid because they havent been treated to resist it. no issues running coolant through them. we use silicone hoses, smaller diameter than vac lines for medical gasses here at work which have a crazy amount of vacuum or pressure on them. they are running through equiptment which gets well over 200 degrees, and puts out 1000's of lbs of pressure, and they arent any different than what is used in our cars. rubber hoses are about as useful as their cost. they get old, wear out, expand and burst.

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Re: Vacuum Valve did I F*** up? Please help

once again, at your work your using them, that great. im a medic in the army. i see that stuff all the time too. and guess what there's still a big part your missing. those lines are designed for those jobs at ur work.

all im saying is i wouldnt trust it on my car. hense i didnt do it. i replaced the coolant part of that bracket with rubber coolant line, and then blue silicon line(yes like you.. lol) for the vacuum lines.
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we use auto grade vac lines here at work. just picked some up from autozone to use on our autoclave. silicone is silicone, the one difference in them being used for fuel is that they are treated to withstand the chemicals that would normally wear down the silicone.

personally i dont use them. vac lines or rad hoses. they are a bit ricey to me, but thats my opinion. I have my iacv lines looped anyway, so all that crap is gone. it will not hurt to use silicone lines for coolant. i dont know where you came up with that. why would they sell entire hose kits for cars, that include rad hoses and vac lines that are using the same materials?
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i replaced the coolant part of that bracket with rubber coolant line, and then blue silicon line(yes like you.. lol) for the vacuum lines.
what do you mean like me? did i ever say i used them on my car? nope. would i? in a jam yes, because they will work.
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what do you mean like me? did i ever say i used them on my car? nope. would i? in a jam yes, because they will work.
no you idiot, talking about the guy who made this thread... who is using blue silicon lines like i did
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wow? idiot? really? are you 12? why dont you be a little more specific when you talk to people so they know who youre refering to next time? next time you post, why dont you post something useful, not just some garbage that you regurgitate forum to forum. you pretty much killed this thread with your bs attitude and unknowledgeable comments. try to be helpful, the kid didnt even know how to check his coolant level and you want to come in and try to argue with me about a bs silicone hose. you are why i hate ht.

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wow? idiot? really? are you 12? why dont you be a little more specific when you talk to people so they know who youre refering to next time? next time you post, why dont you post something useful, not just some garbage that you regurgitate forum to forum. you pretty much killed this thread with your bs attitude and unknowledgeable comments. try to be helpful, the kid didnt even know how to check his coolant level and you want to come in and try to argue with me about a bs silicone hose. you are why i hate ht.
whatever guy. i know what im talking about. end of it. plain and simply.
not gonna argue with you about it. theres no point.
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sure bud, youre the one arguing anyway. i know what i'm talking about too, and you are wrong. plain and simple. look it up.
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biglegs was correct up until the point he said you can use that blue hose for coolant, it will not work. Its most likely a flimsy decoration hose that will heat up, expand, and leak within a week. If a silicone hose couldnt handle 16lbs of boost through my pcv valve, it will not handle that same amount of pressure with 210 degree pressurized liquid in it
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samco hose kits can handle up to 338 degrees and come with every coolant line. maybe the op is using some cheap ass decorative hose, i dont know. i said you can use silicone hoses for coolant, yes, because you can. under boost you are generating pressure, which can blow the line off a pcv valve, yes, but the op didnt mention that, so i assume he is na. he also never said anything about it being a vac line, he mentioned something about a vac valve. i again assumed he meant the iacv, which he did. then he said he was putting a blue hose on, which would work if its rated for that. which i assumed it was.
then whats his nuts comes in saying not to put a vac line on, which is where the arguement began. it went beyond the op's question, to there are no silicone hoses that you can use for coolant, which is bs. i was just making a point that there are silicone coolant hoses, and silicone vac lines that can and are used for coolant.
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Hey guys I'm putting new vacuum valves on the Lude I removed one close to the intake and it spat out anti freeze I think? I'm not to sure in this picture i will show you witch valve I mean. I'm a little worried that I messed something up. Please help thanks.
i realize it says "valves" but by his description he obviously meant lines
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Oh okay no I'm not replacing the iacv just the hose putting in all blue hoses.
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samco hose kits(he's not using samco hoses, that are specifically made for it) can handle up to 338 degrees and come with every coolant line. maybe the op is using some cheap ass decorative hose, i dont know. i said you can use silicone hoses for coolant, yes, because you can. under boost you are generating pressure(coolant is under pressure....), which can blow the line off a pcv valve, yes, but the op didnt mention that, so i assume he is na. he also never said anything about it being a vac line(yes he did), he mentioned something about a vac valve. i again assumed he meant the iacv, which he did. then he said he was putting a blue hose on, which would work if its rated for that. which i assumed it was.
then whats his nuts comes in saying not to put a vac line on, which is where the arguement began. it went beyond the op's question, to there are no silicone hoses that you can use for coolant, which is bs. i was just making a point that there are silicone coolant hoses, and silicone vac lines that can and are used for coolant. (agree'd)
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VACUUM VALVES. how does vac valves and a iacv make any sense to you? did you read his post or just want to argue? i answered his question. NO HE DIDNT MESS HIS IACV UP. then he said he was going to change the hose. samco hoses are? BLUE! i assumed he meant that. then you pop in saying some dumb bs about using a vac line. you are the one who couldnt comprehend what he was asking.

let me dumb this down for you.

vac line small. iacv line big. small line no fit big line. hmmm. maybe he mean big line.

put 2 and 2 together. he didnt know what he was talking about or asking.

yes, there are VAC LINES that are SUITED for COOLANT.

yes, there are crappy bs decorative hoses used for VAC lines, but how big are they? 1/4 od maybe? how big is the iacv return line? 3/8 id maybe. now how is one supposed to fit a vac line on the iacv nipple?

i ASSUMED he was using a BLUE COOLANT LINE not a VAC LINE.

and about the pcv valve popping off under boost, thats why right there, under boost. sure its 16 psi but you are generating the boost very fast when the turbo spoils up and then the pressure is all at once. with the coolant you arent building pressure that fast so the liklihood of the hose popping off is slim. im sure he isnt going to put a hose on the iacv without any type of clamp.

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VACUUM VALVES. how does vac valves and a iacv make any sense to you? did you read his post or just want to argue? i answered his question. NO HE DIDNT MESS HIS IACV UP. then he said he was going to change the hose. samco hoses are? BLUE! i assumed he meant that. then you pop in saying some dumb bs about using a vac line. you are the one who couldnt comprehend what he was asking.

let me dumb this down for you.

vac line small. iacv line big. small line no fit big line. hmmm. maybe he mean big line.

put 2 and 2 together. he didnt know what he was talking about or asking. im sure he isnt going to put a hose on the iacv without any type of clamp.

yes, there are VAC LINES that are SUITED for COOLANT.

yes, there are crappy bs decorative hoses used for VAC lines, but how big are they? 1/4 od maybe? how big is the iacv return line? 3/8 id maybe. now how is one supposed to fit a vac line on the iacv nipple?

i ASSUMED he was using a BLUE COOLANT LINE not a VAC LINE.

and about the pcv valve popping off under boost, thats why right there, under boost. sure its 16 psi but you are generating the boost very fast when the turbo spoils up and then the pressure is all at once. with the coolant you arent building pressure that fast so the liklihood of the hose popping off is slim.
just throwing it out there, but your arguement are so mute its not even funny.

so let get this straight. by your math/logic vacuum line only comes in small size's such as 1/4OD... right? right.. hmmm wonder what lines make the brake booster work then.. **** that must be at least fuel line by your logic.

.. and who said he was using samco hose's? maybe the parts store around me just dont carry samco universal coolant lines. but i've never seen it other the preformed radiator hoses.
more then likely the line he's talking about is the cheap "silicone" lines you get in the ricer sections of the part stores. ya they'll work fine for vacuum lines, but anything else, ya thats a no go.

also about the pressure/boost. he didn't say his pvc popped out, that would be irrelevant, he said the cheap silicone lines them self's wouldn't hold the pressure
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where did i say coolant isnt under pressure?

where did i say there arent different size vac lines?

i said something about 1/4 od vac line which is ran throughout our engine bay. anything bigger is usually called a hose. there are plenty of companies out there besides samco that offer silcone hoses that are completly suitable for the iacv lines but try to find the same size cheap silicone in the same diameter as the line to the iacv, not that easy. yeah you can go get some cheap autozone hoses from the ricer section, but pretty sure you wont find one. thats another reason i assumed he actually spent money and bought all the lines to replace.

there are products like this which are vac lines, which obviously cant be used for the iacv...
Mr. Gasket 11031G G Sport Pro Overkill Silicone Vacuum Hose Kit - Car/Truck/SUV Parts

then there are companies like these guys who make kits to replace every line, coolant and vac.
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Honda Prelude 5th Gen Silicone Vacuum Hose Kit 1997-2001
This kit fits all 5th Gen Preludes sold in the U.S. and all others with any varient of the H22 engine. It has 30 feet of hose and replaces EVERY vacuum hose under the hood, as well as the windshield washer hoses and small diameter COOLANT lines. The kit comes with a hose cutter to make the job easy and we include vacuum hose diagrams for the engine compartment.



i dont know what kit he has or if he even has one, but when you are replacing lines like that, i assume he bought a kit designed for that purpose.

im done with this, i never tried to argue with you, you came out from your first post argueing, then your second and your third you went to name calling. i answered the ops questions, then you came in and wrecked the thread.

also, i fully understood that he meant the hose popped off the pcv valve.

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Okay look all I wanted to know is?
1. Did I mess anything up with taking it off?
2. I was going to replace the hose with a blue silicone hose that's all I was asking.

Should I put the old one that I took off back on?
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you didnt mess up your iacv.

if the blue hose is some cheap silicone hose from autozone, i wouldnt use it on the iacv line.

if it was from a kit that was designed for coolant, then yes use it.
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I bought them off a website said they were the best. So put the old one back on.
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link of website?
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ya Silicone Hose Kits
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