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Old 01-27-2011, 12:11 AM
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Suspicious leak from below engine.

Well hello everyone. I'd just like to say that I'm new to these forums. I had a friend refer me to website because the community here will be able to help me with the issue on my Prelude.
Just to get this out of the way, I have a 2001 Honda Prelude wit ha H22A4, these cars are so beautiful. lol. Okay, so.
Well this issue has been going on for about two weeks now. Over three weeks ago I had a small leakage by the oil filter, and I inspected it. It seemed to be the oil sending unit that was leaking, so I got my oil sending unit replaced because it failed, and got a new one for about 20 dollars. The mechanic I know suggested I get a new and much better one soon because it's only a temporary one. And then a week after ago I noticed there was the smell of burnt oil coming through my air ventilation, and I noticed a bit a smoke coming from under the hood. Panicking, I turn off the car, and check around the engine and under, and I see oil just pouring onto the area where the exhaust expels and landing onto the ground like a river, causing the fumes to enter the car, the the oil filter housing gave in because it was a bit damaged, but I got that replaced with a new one. And now there is still a leak, but it's only about like two-three small drops a day. I check the oil every day to make sure it has the proper amount, it's still annoying to see the leak, but it's better than what it was before. And now I see oil on the side of the engine by the passenger side.(I'm sorry I am a noob at cars, but I'm not sure what part the oil is residing on.) I will update my thread with a photo/video showing where the leak and oi residue is residing. I know this may not be very in-depth, but maybe owners of the 5th gen preludes can help diagnose what to do with leakage like this.
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Re: Suspicious leak from below engine.

this will help you...

The Official Oil Leak Guide - Honda Prelude Forum : Honda Prelude Forums

it sounds like you need to check your oil cooler o-ring. its pretty notorious for leaking.
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Re: Suspicious leak from below engine.

^^ Yup. Prolly oil cooler o-ring.
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Re: Suspicious leak from below engine.

It's def your O-ring that's worn and needs to change and the burnt oil smell is coming from the oil dripping prob on your downpipe!!!
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its the O ring
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Re: Suspicious leak from below engine.

lmao just cuz

oil cooler o ring!!! same happened to me dude
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Re: Suspicious leak from below engine.

o-ring.....
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Re: Suspicious leak from below engine.

i think i might take that new chick from logistics. if things go well i might be showin her my OOOOO-ringggg. ohhhh, ohhhhh, ohhhhhh!!!
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Re: Suspicious leak from below engine.

I kind of figured, but I wasn't sure, I just needed second opinions from people who know their stuff. And "biglegs" Thanks for that thread, I will thoroughly read into it and being work on diagnosing and fixing the problem. :)
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no worries man, glad i could help. if you have any questions or need help or advise, lemme know!
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no worries man, glad i could help. if you have any questions or need help or advise, lemme know!
Thanks a bunch. I have one question, where can I find other threads related to oil leaks around the transmission? I might need help and guidance on how to fix those leaks.
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Re: Suspicious leak from below engine.

check out prelude power . com or even prelude online . com, they have tons of good info on our cars.where about on the tranny are you noticing leaks?
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check out prelude power . com or even prelude online . com, they have tons of good info on our cars.where about on the tranny are you noticing leaks?
Okay I will.
Well to be honest I'm not even sure if it is the tranny, it might be another part. It's in the front region where the front passenger seat is. I cleaned off the oil from there and drove around for two to three minutes and came back home to find oil around the same spot. I'll have to take a photo to show you because I'm probably not really helping with my description.
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might have a leak at your cv axle where it mates with the tranny. get a pic up and i'll be able to help a bit more!
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might have a leak at your cv axle where it mates with the tranny. get a pic up and i'll be able to help a bit more!
I have no clue what that is. lol But yes I might have spare time tomorrow to take photos. I will keep you updated on the photo(s) tomorrow. Man my car has so many leaks its not even funny. lol I already got a few gaskets and seals replaced. A few more to go.
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Thats part of owning a 13 year old car! treat her right, she'll treat you right!
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Thats part of owning a 13 year old car! treat her right, she'll treat you right!
I purchased the car pre-owned. The last owner didn't really maintain it, so they left all the fixing for me.
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Re: Suspicious leak from below engine.

so after some thinking it could also be your vtec solenoid or cam cap just see if the oil is comming down from the head
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Re: Suspicious leak from below engine.

Well I am back wih some photos of the leak. I had sort of cleaned off the oil reisude yesterday, so there isn't much showing.
The first photo is where I was seeing the leak. You can see two fresh drops hanging from the top.
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5106/0128011536.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2199/0128011537.jpg

The next photo shows the oil sending unit where it is a bit soaked in oil. (My guess, coming from that oil cooler o-ring and then drips onto the unit, which I need to fix.)
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6730/0128011536b.jpg

And this photo shows a little leakage from the gasket of the oil pan.
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8059/0128011536a.jpg

What is an estimate on how much this could cost to repair?
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When my O-ring went bad it spewed out oil. and It cost me 50 cents to fix it cuz I bought a universal o-ring gasket and put it on myself.

If you can't do it yourself and have a shop do it, I would say it might take them 30 min to an hour to do it depending on how competent they are and knowledgeable with Honda'. So figure their hourly rate and do the math.
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Okay, I have a mechanic who could do it if I cannot do it myself. Thanks again for the help guys. :)
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UPDATE: Well I got the leaks fixed. I put in a new oil filter housing and o-ring. I also had cam seals that were literally squirting out oil, those were changed as well. The oil pan gasket is still leaking, but it's very minimal. Checking the oil every 4-5 days will be okay for now until I can get money for a new gasket. Now I found another leak by the passenger side of the car, which I think it is the transmission(I'm not sure.)? Here is a photo:
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The oil does not leak, it just resides there. Does this mean I will need a new transmission(?) soon? Or is there a way to fix the leak?
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Bump.
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have you changed out the distributer o-ring? i saw you did you cam seal plug, so it could be the dizzy o-ring...mine would collect and drip from their before i changed out my cam seal plug and dizzy o-ring...
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have you changed out the distributer o-ring? i saw you did you cam seal plug, so it could be the dizzy o-ring...mine would collect and drip from their before i changed out my cam seal plug and dizzy o-ring...
I have not changed the dizzy o-ring. Where is this distributor o-ring located?
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so after some thinking it could also be your vtec solenoid or cam cap just see if the oil is comming down from the head
Just to be curious, I checked both of those, and I found minimal oil residue from under the vtec solenoid. I guess its time to get a new solenoid gasket as well?
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Re: Suspicious leak from below engine.

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I have not changed the dizzy o-ring. Where is this distributor o-ring located?
behind the dizzy.

off the top of my head, there are three 12mm bolts holding the distributor on. dont take any of the wires off the cap. remove the 3 bolts, and be SUPER, SUPER, SUPER careful when pulling the dizzy out so you dont turn the rotor, you DO NOT want that headache. grab a rag cause a little oil might drip...once the dizzy is out, you will see the o-ring. remove o-ring and put the new one on. reassemble in reverse order...

if the rotor does turn a bit, just turn back in the opposite direction till the tab lines up. you will see what i mean when you have the dizzy out...

there is a write up on it somewhere, but im too lazy to look for it. my directions are pretty much straight foward though...

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Re: Suspicious leak from below engine.

Doesn't look like dizzy o-ring to me. And if you move the rotor too much...you might have to reset base timing. Have fun with that.

It could be residual oil left over fromt the oil leaks you fixed, but its on the other side of the engine.


Oil seals on passenger side

1. Cam caps (there are cam caps on both sides of the cam)
2. dizzy o-ring
3. vtec solonoid
4. rear main seal

If its coming from where the trans block and engine block mate...then you got a leaking rear main. Probably. Good luck.
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