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hey whats goin on, im planing on getting a new engine for my 97 honda prelude mine burns oil like a bitch so i think its about time. i wanna put turbo in it i was jus wondering what your guys thoughts would be on this ccaus i never seen a vtech prelude with turbo yet i was also told that in order for the engine walls and piston rings to handle the turbo the engine needs to be custom made.man just imagine hitting vtech while your turbos kicking in ahahahaha some fast and the furious **** right there
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Re: vtec + turbo?????

new motor + install probably around $1500-3000 (but thats stupid because if you are gonna rebuild it just use the same motor)
fairly good rebuild $3000-5000
good turbo set up + install $3000-5000
cost for tune $500 at bare minimum

still thinking about doing this?

oh and there are several turbo vtec ludes on here
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yea i never seen a vtech prelude with turbo tooooo!!
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Re: vtec + turbo?????

lol ****in rights im still thinking about it why would i be posting this if i wasnt thinking about it
no ****......you gotta be a moron to think your going to get all that stuff done for under 10gs cars arnt cheap essay.
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Re: vtec + turbo?????

Okay well I suggest you do the rebuild yourself, dont sleeve the block no one needs that done, put in some random pistons, high compression because thats good for turbos, then keep the valve train the same because upgrading that is overrated, then put in the skunk2 turbo cams and that will only run you like $2 grand or so, then get an turbo kit and a boost controller put the boost to around 15 psi or so and that will be about another 2 grand if you can do all of that and then drive it around pretty easy for a little then start pushing it really hard because the turbo has to have some miles on it before you take it to a tuner. sound about right everyone?
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nice info, thanks brotha
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Re: vtec + turbo?????

You sound pretty young and I only say this because Turbonetics makes a kit for the H22A4 (97 prelude and up) that will run on stock internals at 8 psi. On a great tune mind you, but figuring your age first time you get dusted by a SRT4 your going to turn up the boost and wham blown motor.

Custom motor yeah I guess as you'll have to re sleeve the motor to go with forged pistons you'll want lower compression to go higher with boost. I would read up on these forums and get some good do 's and don't s

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Re: vtec + turbo?????

the cylinder walls are made of carbon reinforced metals, and when they get too hot...POP. you would need to re-sleeve them with iron, like out of the F22.

as mentioned its very expensive to turbo anything, and ebay sh!t blows motors.

also there are many 5th gens on this site that are boosted to fukc, and im sure they used the already created threads to find anything they could ever asked for.

not to be a dick, but please use the search tab at the top of the forum.

here ill help with this one

So, you wanna go turbo, huh?
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the cylinder walls are made of carbon reinforced metals, and when they get too hot...POP. you would need to re-sleeve them with iron, like out of the F22.

as mentioned its very expensive to turbo anything, and ebay sh!t blows motors.

also there are many 5th gens on this site that are boosted to fukc, and im sure they used the already created threads to find anything they could ever asked for.

not to be a dick, but please use the search tab at the top of the forum.

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ahahahaha im new to this thing i dont know how half the **** works on this site.but thanks alot guys i appreciate it ill definitely take the advice
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thanks bro. we done here?
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Re: vtec + turbo?????

wait so....there are luders who have turbo's, but dont have vtec?
it would make sense to keep vtec after installing a turbo
*if vtec was present before install

is it the new cams they install or the new tune that removes vtec?
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wait so....there are luders who have turbo's, but dont have vtec?
it would make sense to keep vtec after installing a turbo
*if vtec was present before install

is it the new cams they install or the new tune that removes vtec?
yes that is correct sir, I believe our GEN of Vtec is controlled by oil pressure? So with the correct amount of oil in the car it will hit Vtec around 5200 RPMs at that RPM there is enough oil pressure? to slide a shaft controlling a lobe on the cam that keeps the valves open a bit longer and that is what gives it that little extra push.

I think I am close to being correct on this subject. I know I have seen a cut out of a motor showing how Vtec works it is somewhere on this website under videos I'm sure of it. I'll look for it.
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so I was wrong the rocker arms lock together by a shaft controlled by the solenoid and oil pressure and hold the intake valves open longer

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vtec + turbo? bustr did it. end of discussion lol.
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i wish i had a vtech turbo prelude=(
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Re: vtec + turbo?????

From a mechanical stand point, I don't see why you can't boost a car that has vtec. Vtec is not boost. I guess it does draw in more air when engaged but your blow off valve is there to regulate the amount of boost and it releases the excess so it won't damage the engine right? I used to have a book here on turbos and how they work very nice technical book a friend gave me I really need to find that thing.
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wait so....there are luders who have turbo's, but dont have vtec?
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is it the new cams they install or the new tune that removes vtec?

there was a myth that vtec was bad for turbo motors, alot of tuners were afraid to run vtec with a turbo, you dont swap the cams out they would either disable the vtec solenoid or just raise vtec engaged to redline so you would never hit vtec. My vtec pops at 4400rpms and spools the sh*t out of my turbo.lol
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the spring in the wastegatealong with engine management or your common "boost controller" controls the amount of boost, the bov is just a relief valve that relieves the pressure and saves the turbo but has no control of the boost
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there was a myth that vtec was bad for turbo motors, alot of tuners were afraid to run vtec with a turbo, you dont swap the cams out they would either disable the vtec solenoid or just raise vtec engaged to redline so you would never hit vtec. My vtec pops at 4400rpms and spools the sh*t out of my turbo.lol
Thanks, it all makes sense now i guess lol. maybe it was considered bad b/c they thought it would be too much power in a short amount of time; instead of being linear and smooth.
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Its only hard to tune for people thart aren't familiar with hondas. If you take your turbo vtec to an evo tunner of course he won't know what he's doing
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hey whats goin on, im planing on getting a new engine for my 97 honda prelude mine burns oil like a bitch so i think its about time. i wanna put turbo in it i was jus wondering what your guys thoughts would be on this ccaus i never seen a vtech prelude with turbo yet i was also told that in order for the engine walls and piston rings to handle the turbo the engine needs to be custom made.man just imagine hitting vtech while your turbos kicking in ahahahaha some fast and the furious **** right there
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That's like taking your roast pork to a chinese chef and telling them the roast pork taste funny...of course he's not gonna tell you it's processed cat or dog!!!
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Okay well I suggest you do the rebuild yourself, dont sleeve the block no one needs that done, put in some random pistons, high compression because thats good for turbos, then keep the valve train the same because upgrading that is overrated, then put in the skunk2 turbo cams and that will only run you like $2 grand or so, then get an turbo kit and a boost controller put the boost to around 15 psi or so and that will be about another 2 grand if you can do all of that and then drive it around pretty easy for a little then start pushing it really hard because the turbo has to have some miles on it before you take it to a tuner. sound about right everyone?

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There are still a lot of people that do not know how to spell VTEC. This thread is full of fail.
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