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Are any 5th gen autos good?

I'm now thinking that the 5th gen Lude will be better for me than the 4the gen, but it seems like the auto is just terrible. For family concerns back at home, the auto is better for me. Are any years good? If not, a Celica might be coming home with me.....

Also, is this the same auto that's in the Accord's (98-02), TL's (99-03) and CL's (01-03) that are known for transmission failure? Thanks guys.
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Re: Are any 5th gen autos good?

Auto trannys are not good in 5th gens. It's a different tranny from the other cars you mentioned which are also known for tranny failures.
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Re: Are any 5th gen autos good?

Im one of the few 5th gen autos on the site an i hope i dont get flammed for sayin the followin:

I have an auto tranny and i really cant complain. When me an the crew wid ludes meet up im the only one with an auto so im kinda rare LOL

but the main issue with the auto tranny on the 5th gen is that
1) guys beat on it!!
2) dont change the fluid on time/on the regular
3) do some kinds of tranny flush that ****s it up even more

If u want a stick go buy one. But if ur gonna beat on the auto like its a stick well ur askin for trouble lol.
on the tranny u'll find a few solenoid's they go bad and are kinda expensive to change. Not changin the fluid on time will hurry up the process of the tranny goin bad also. You have to use Honda ATF on it.
I knoe a few guys who did some kind of tranny flush crap an the tranny wasnt givin a issue b4 but after it was. U dont want to do that cuz that effects seals an stuff in there an once u mess wid those, kiss ur auto good bye lol


if your into gettin an auto make sure it doesnt already have tranny issus(see tranny failure guide...use search to find it). Change the fluid the first time after you buy the car. then at 2k after that. then at regular intervals after that ( usually every oil change or so)

I bought a tranny cooler just incase cuz my car had 123k wen i bought it. I wasnt sure of the previous owners driving style so i drained it, refilled an put on the cooler.

An since then to now so problems (knock on wood) lol

The other cars u listed have different tranny's but similar in the fact that they use a tip-tronic style system. except for the accord i think cuz it may be different
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Re: Are any 5th gen autos good?

The auto trannies in the 5th gen are the equivalent to taking a dump on a pile of crap.
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The auto trannies in the 5th gen are the equivalent to taking a dump on a pile of crap.
5th gen manuals take craps too. They have problems with the gears. I don't know if the manual tranny has been revised in the later years but it seems like most people with manual tranny problems are 97 and 98 owners. Can someone confirm that manual trannys have been revised and through which years?
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Re: Are any 5th gen autos good?

The only good auto preludes have a 5sp swap.
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be different!
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Im one of the few 5th gen autos on the site an i hope i dont get flammed for sayin the followin:

I have an auto tranny and i really cant complain. When me an the crew wid ludes meet up im the only one with an auto so im kinda rare LOL

but the main issue with the auto tranny on the 5th gen is that
1) guys beat on it!!
2) dont change the fluid on time/on the regular
3) do some kinds of tranny flush that ****s it up even more

If u want a stick go buy one. But if ur gonna beat on the auto like its a stick well ur askin for trouble lol.
on the tranny u'll find a few solenoid's they go bad and are kinda expensive to change. Not changin the fluid on time will hurry up the process of the tranny goin bad also. You have to use Honda ATF on it.
I knoe a few guys who did some kind of tranny flush crap an the tranny wasnt givin a issue b4 but after it was. U dont want to do that cuz that effects seals an stuff in there an once u mess wid those, kiss ur auto good bye lol


if your into gettin an auto make sure it doesnt already have tranny issus(see tranny failure guide...use search to find it). Change the fluid the first time after you buy the car. then at 2k after that. then at regular intervals after that ( usually every oil change or so)

I bought a tranny cooler just incase cuz my car had 123k wen i bought it. I wasnt sure of the previous owners driving style so i drained it, refilled an put on the cooler.

An since then to now so problems (knock on wood) lol

The other cars u listed have different tranny's but similar in the fact that they use a tip-tronic style system. except for the accord i think cuz it may be different
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Re: Are any 5th gen autos good?

yes, listen to 99preludeQZ. the 3 (?) last years have a "better" trans that was less prone to failure

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5th gen manuals take craps too. They have problems with the gears. I don't know if the manual tranny has been revised in the later years but it seems like most people with manual tranny problems are 97 and 98 owners. Can someone confirm that manual trannys have been revised and through which years?
they really dont. if they have problems its probably because people cant drive standard and beat the piss out of them
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honestly man, when i had a 00 lude i had no problems at all with my auto. i let it go with 116k on it and it shifted perfect and was never rebuilt...with that being said, unless you can find one low mileage and you know the thing wasnt beat on and babied, the chances are you may have issues with it. getting them rebuilt will be more issues down the road as well. good luck with your decision.
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You're better off with the Celica if you're considering an Auto.
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Re: Are any 5th gen autos good?

Thanks guys. And yes, I'm only considering the auto......and if it's that bad, although some have had good stories with it, I may just have to move to the Celica......or find a Lude that was seriously babied.....might be hard to do but I'm up for the challenge.
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I just got a 99 auto man and it has a little trouble shifting not all the time but sometimes... but if you do get the auto lude dont use the sequential shifting everyone has HIGHLY emphasized that to me...
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what's wrong with using it? Does it grind the gears or something?
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no, just puts a lot of unnecessary stress on an already weak trans
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what's wrong with using it? Does it grind the gears or something?
no its more of a lurch when it shifts you hear no grind just doesn't feel like a strong shift... but thats when I'm crusing, when I hit the accellerator hard she shifts fine goes threw all the gears no prob and goes into the next gear with good power...

I've been told to change tranny fluid so I'm doing that in next couple days whenever this damn rain stops lol
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Re: Are any 5th gen autos good?

5th and 6th gen celica are built proof.

the 2.2 5SFE engine are none interference, so now worries about timing belt breaking.

and the auto trannys in them have big FAT clutch's, that with stand alot of abuse.


prelude auto trannys aren't that bad, its people who beat the sh*t out of them and expect them to shift fine miles later down the road and besides prelude just looks cooler. so the choice is yours.
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I have an auto. its my daily driver. i commute on I-5. I mob through traffic, and i just got new tires and properly aimed my headlights :D
Everything is working great, just don't beat the hell out of it. an you still have the tiptronic, so you can still downshift whenever
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I unfortunately own a auto...my car has 180k and i triple flush the tranny every 30k and no problems and no rebuilds. I occasionally will do some back road racing but try to be easy on her.

On the note of fluid, anyone other then me notice they changed the formula and the sticker on the bottle?
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So if the car is babied then I should be fine? And the Celica is good? Cause I want a Lude, but there is too much negative around it......well the auto at least. And that's what I would get......
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get the prelude you. celica's look pussy
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Celica...... Looks fast lol

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I'm now thinking that the 5th gen Lude will be better for me than the 4the gen, but it seems like the auto is just terrible. For family concerns back at home, the auto is better for me. Are any years good? If not, a Celica might be coming home with me.....

Also, is this the same auto that's in the Accord's (98-02), TL's (99-03) and CL's (01-03) that are known for transmission failure? Thanks guys.
I have a 00 accord V6 coupe and it's auto. Not one issue with the trans, not ever!
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Im one of the few 5th gen autos on the site an i hope i dont get flammed for sayin the followin:

I have an auto tranny and i really cant complain. When me an the crew wid ludes meet up im the only one with an auto so im kinda rare LOL

but the main issue with the auto tranny on the 5th gen is that
1) guys beat on it!!
2) dont change the fluid on time/on the regular
3) do some kinds of tranny flush that ****s it up even more

If u want a stick go buy one. But if ur gonna beat on the auto like its a stick well ur askin for trouble lol.
on the tranny u'll find a few solenoid's they go bad and are kinda expensive to change. Not changin the fluid on time will hurry up the process of the tranny goin bad also. You have to use Honda ATF on it.
I knoe a few guys who did some kind of tranny flush crap an the tranny wasnt givin a issue b4 but after it was. U dont want to do that cuz that effects seals an stuff in there an once u mess wid those, kiss ur auto good bye lol


if your into gettin an auto make sure it doesnt already have tranny issus(see tranny failure guide...use search to find it). Change the fluid the first time after you buy the car. then at 2k after that. then at regular intervals after that ( usually every oil change or so)

I bought a tranny cooler just incase cuz my car had 123k wen i bought it. I wasnt sure of the previous owners driving style so i drained it, refilled an put on the cooler.

An since then to now so problems (knock on wood) lol

The other cars u listed have different tranny's but similar in the fact that they use a tip-tronic style system. except for the accord i think cuz it may be different
Plus he bought my auto tranny with 40K on it just incase. LOL

But I agree with him. I never had problem with the auto tranny and some people here did not have problems as well. I guess it luck of the draw and how well you maintain it. Good luck in whatever you do.
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I'm pretty sure if you are looking for a stylish car that will be family friendly for others to drive if you find a clean lude auto you will be fine. The tell-tales for abuse or incompetant drivers are corny add-ons or randomly painted interior parts, etc. That is generally is a side effect of stupid, and stupid generally yeilds broken or abused parts. Even if the person isn't stupid but bought an auto with intentions of racing it around everywhere (which is why a lot of people buy ludes) they are abusing the intetions of the car. Most people that bought autos new just wanted Hondas nicest car in the day. We have to keep in mind, although it is now largely a big kid's ride in the mid-late 90s it was Hondas top shelf car! They weren't cheap! So if you are lucky enough to get one that has had 1 or 2 adult owners youre probably going to have good luck the the tranny. It's not that they were "weak" they were over used. My experience is the same as ogs. I had a 99 Accord and drove it like I wanted to drive it to work 30mi per day. It was fine. I hear of them "failing" all the time and how they "suck" as the guy neutral drops at a stop light.

That being said, the Toyota is probably a little more resistant to abuse by nature. Obviously this doesn't say anything about its actual condition. Ive driven both and I wont sway you either way, however...I am and have been on a Honda forum for 4 years...but Id probably never buy anything other than Toyota 4wds.
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I have a 00 accord V6 coupe and it's auto. Not one issue with the trans, not ever!
Somehow, I dont believe it lol.

My 00 v6 auto crapped TWICE, then when we had enough to trade it on a 09 G35s (yes!!) the tranny gave out on THE FIRST TEST DRIVE the dealership gave in it! lol!!!


And to clarify, it was mostly driven by my 50 yo mother in law...so no "neutral drops" here.
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Don't buy an auto, u nless you baby it.

Don't buy a prelude unless you plan on spending money.
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Don't buy an auto, u nless you baby it.

Don't buy a prelude unless you plan on spending money.
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