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Old 01-02-2011, 05:05 PM
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TB or exhause?

which will give me better gains in power, a exhaust include dc headers, or just a throttle body alone on stock IM.

its a 1997 prelude sh...my limit is $500
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Re: TB or exhause?

I have a 2001 Prelude 5 speed with body kit, & lowered 1.75" with 205/50/16. It has an AEM cold air intake. I'd like to put on a Skunk2 Intake Manifold+Throttle Body, but don't know what size Throttle Body to put on? 68MM, 70MM, 74MM? It's a stock H22. Guess I'll have to do some reading unless someone here can clear this up? Next.... DC headers, test pipe, & muffler? I think I'll be happy with the horse power gain, & then dump money in strut bars (upper & lower), plus arm bar. & sway bars.
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Re: TB or exhause?

Don't waste your money on the DC header.

Also, you'd be better off going with a Euro-R intake manifold instead of the Skunk2.
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Re: TB or exhause?

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which will give me better gains in power, a exhaust include dc headers, or just a throttle body alone on stock IM.

its a 1997 prelude sh...my limit is $500
you will see next to no gain with either. making your throttle body larger while keeping the IM stock doesn't really make sense. you can still only take in the amount of air that the smallest opening is. save for a quality header, chances are you're losing power with yours

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I have a 2001 Prelude 5 speed with body kit, & lowered 1.75" with 205/50/16. It has an AEM cold air intake. I'd like to put on a Skunk2 Intake Manifold+Throttle Body, but don't know what size Throttle Body to put on? 68MM, 70MM, 74MM? It's a stock H22. Guess I'll have to do some reading unless someone here can clear this up? Next.... DC headers, test pipe, & muffler? I think I'll be happy with the horse power gain, & then dump money in strut bars (upper & lower), plus arm bar. & sway bars.
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Don't waste your money on the DC header.

Also, you'd be better off going with a Euro-R intake manifold instead of the Skunk2.
I agree with you sir, although if they are boosting, I'd say S2. if n/a def the euro r
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Re: TB or exhause?

They didn't say anything about boost....and I'm lazy so I didn't feel like explaining. haha
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Re: TB or exhause?

The only thing is that you'll have to do some custom fabrication work to get the Euro-R Intake Manifold to fit with everything else. It's not plug-n-play.
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which will give me better gains in power, a exhaust include dc headers, or just a throttle body alone on stock IM.

its a 1997 prelude sh...my limit is $500
I'm going to start from scratch and not feed off of what other people are saying.

You have an SH and you will never see a lot of power easy on an SH.

Your stock engine is fine. The purpose of an SH is handling... Super Handling.

Upgrade your suspension... not your engine.

A dc header is horrible and is nothing but an upgrade for the looks of the engine.

Just a throttle body isn't going to do anything.

An exhaust has minimal gains also.
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Re: TB or exhause?

^ Uhh...You're really going to advise him to sell his Prelude just because it's an SH?
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^ Uhh...You're really going to advise him to sell his Prelude just because it's an SH?
Not because it is an SH, because he knows NOTHING about all these mods he is talking about doing..

DC Header = total ****
New TB with stock IM = bottle neck meaning the same amount of air still comes in.
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I'm going to start from scratch and not feed off of what other people are saying.

You have an SH and you will never see a lot of power easy on an SH.

Your stock engine is fine. The purpose of an SH is handling... Super Handling.

Upgrade your suspension... not your engine.

A dc header is horrible and is nothing but an upgrade for the looks of the engine.

Just a throttle body isn't going to do anything.

An exhaust has minimal gains also.
So just because its a sh means he should be happy with his stock motor? That makes no sense at all. Some ppl don't care as much about tracking their car. Maybe he was only able to get an sh because that's what was available?

Op, if your limit is $500, save up for a good header. That will show you a better gain than exhaust or tb alone.
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Re: TB or exhause?

I didn't say he should track his car...

But $500 isn't going to do anything.
If he wants real power he needs to save for a real build and not spend it on parts that will give him the placebo effect. Also no matter what suspension is always a good investment. If you make power you might as well invest in getting it to the ground.
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That is more of a response that I would agree with. Your first post just made it sound like he should do nothing with the motor and just do suspension upgrades since its a sh.

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Re: TB or exhause?

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Don't waste your money on the DC header.

Also, you'd be better off going with a Euro-R intake manifold instead of the Skunk2.
I appreciate the input. So, I'll do some research on the Euro-R intake manifold. Is there a point top change the throttle body on a stock H22? And if so, what size would work best? 68MM, 70MM, etc... What header would you recommend over a DC header?
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What header would you recommend over a DC header?
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and in fact they are doing a hytech replica group buy on here and it is in your price range
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and in fact they are doing a hytech replica group buy on here and it is in your price range
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Re: TB or exhause?

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I didn't say he should track his car...

But $500 isn't going to do anything.
If he wants real power he needs to save for a real build and not spend it on parts that will give him the placebo effect. Also no matter what suspension is always a good investment. If you make power you might as well invest in getting it to the ground.
$500 could get him a HyTech rep.

Thats a potential 15hp there.
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And a waste if he decides to boost it. He needs to research.
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Re: TB or exhause?

http://www.preludezone.com/pzs-news-...group-buy.html

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that's actually not a hytech header. it's a custom header from a shop I OK called humble performance lol
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Re: TB or exhause?

I checked out the group buy header page & I'm waiting to see how the fit/dyno results end up... I have question about turbos? What do yall think bout ebay item# 370122950023 ???? Any of the members have turbos here? And at $250 for starter kit, how much do I have to spend to finish the install?
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Re: TB or exhause?

If your looking to boost your car, and are looking at ebay for a turbo kit, chances are you shouldn't be boosting. When it comes to cars, spending the money is the right idea. Properly boosting something isn't cheap.
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Re: TB or exhause?

I found a complete kit w/everything about $593 delivered. Here's the item# 350321814303 I know prices for turbo kits go way up in price, but does anyone here have a turbo on their Lude. Want to here some personal experience on this topic.
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Here is what you do. Slap a turbo on. The bigger the better. Don't get it tuned. At all. Because thats for sissies. Oh, and don't put on a wastegate either, without one you'll get infinite powah!!

Oh, and turbochargers are air cooled, so you don't need to fool with that pesky oil line that may or may not come with your kit.

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Sweet! That's what I'm talking about. Someone that knows turbos. I'm total noob on topic, so thank you, I'm reading all about it, and all input is appreciated. Turbo 101 starts now.

So, I found a guy here that has installed & worked on turbos for over 20 years. But... I have a question for anyone here on the forum that has put a turbo in there 97-01 Lude. Is it possible to add a turbo without giving up the A/C &/or power steering? If not I'll sway towards headers then. The Items I'm looking at ebay Item# 350321814303 & Item# 330458396348.
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Re: TB or exhause?

there are ways to keep your power steering with a turbo, but im pretty sure you have to give up the A/C
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Re: TB or exhause?

well if you arent to get good power get off ebay. a good build takes time, mone, resaerch and quality parts. and you have to get a solid game plan down and stick to it. if you take it day by day you will go no where because there is no goal in mind. so figure out what is important to you and what exactly you want out of the car, and then work towards that and you will se progress. Research on forums and not on parts sites too. the parts sites will tell you anything to get you to buy their product. when you are looking at a part and it tells you that you'll get 15 hp out of it . they have probably not told you that you need to do 4 other mods with it to get the outcome they are telling you about.
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