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Old 12-28-2010, 12:14 AM
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turbo or super charger ?

hey guys

just want to get some input on getting a turbo or super charger ?

i am looking at the greddy turbo set up and the JR SC set up

im not looking to make 400hp or any thing just looking for that bit of power that the prelude is lacking


whats best for stock internals ?

easiest to install ?


now i have never had my prelude on a dyno or seen one on a dyno what is the stock HP of a prelude ?

i have read 198-200hp ? true ?

JR said something like 160? and there SC boosts up to 225
so if a stock prelude if running 190-200 stock then im not going to spend 3000-4000 on 25 HP

any input that you guys think will help is welcome, im pretty new to forced inducted

thanks in advance !!
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Old 12-28-2010, 12:21 AM
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Re: turbo or super charger ?

i think turbo will give u more power then a SC will... but turbo does lag at times, it needs to be tuned right.. thing wit SC u can always remove it if u dnt want it, its easy to install and remove, unlike turbo once u put it on, its hell takin it out if u dont want it... so they both have there pros and cons... but a greddy turbo? u gonna be pushin more then 400hp
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Re: turbo or super charger ?

The only bolt-on SC kit I know of is from Jackson Racing, and it isn't all that fantastic. The unit is a bit undersized for the H22.
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Re: turbo or super charger ?

Superchargers are more reliable. However, they take power to make power.
Turbos are slightly cheaper in most cases, but end up costing more if you do it right.

The key word is do it right. A turbo set up will give you serious HP gains if done correctly. Don't run as much boost as you can, or your otherwise stock motor internal wise will turn into a grenade. Also, don't think you can throw on a turbo setup without a proper tune.
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The only bolt-on SC kit I know of is from Jackson Racing, and it isn't all that fantastic. The unit is a bit undersized for the H22.
Actually my bro has it on his Prelude and he loves it. It isn't meant to make tremendous hp, it's meant to put a little pep in it's step. His car is pretty quick off the line and runs very nice. If you're looking for something to give you a bit of boost it might be for you. If you're looking for tons of whp look at a regular turbo.
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Actually my bro has it on his Prelude and he loves it. It isn't meant to make tremendous hp, it's meant to put a little pep in it's step. His car is pretty quick off the line and runs very nice. If you're looking for something to give you a bit of boost it might be for you. If you're looking for tons of whp look at a regular turbo.
You're right. It is a pretty good mod for a few more horses at the wheels. However, I have a problem with a $4000 kit that doesn't produce impressive gains.
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You're right. It is a pretty good mod for a few more horses at the wheels. However, I have a problem with a $4000 kit that doesn't produce impressive gains.
I think he's gaining somewhere in the 60-80 whp out of it so it's not a slouch either. It fits the bill for him. He could have spent upwards of 10 grand and got a turbo It's all about the individual really.
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Re: turbo or super charger ?

For $10k you can build an 11 second (or faster) Prelude. LOL.
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Re: turbo or super charger ?

I don't know about that. I believe 98Vtec is still looking for somewhere in that range with a gutted 5th gen. Don't quote me on that but I think that is what I recall.
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Re: turbo or super charger ?

Super Charger:
- Used by Yank Tanks everywhere
- Expensive as ****
- Hard to install
- Doesn't play nice with stock internals
- Big HP gains (as the "forced induction" (for lack of a better term) is always flowing)

Turbo:
- Sounds sexy (blowoff valve)
- *relatively* cheap (compared to SC)
- Easier install then SC
- Plays nice with stock internals (up to 8 PSI)
- Only con: the turbo doesn't "blow" air into your engine constantly (at full boost, that is). The turbo has to spool up. Big turbo = more HP (and slower spool) small turbo = more torque (and quicker spool). A good torquey turbo is the Garret GT28RS "Disco Potato".
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Re: turbo or super charger ?

Here is a link for the JRSC:
MossPerformance.com High Performance Parts & Accessories

From what I read in that description you are gaining right around 60-80whp. with other bolt ons and a good tune you could possibly be around 250-260 range I would think. Not bad for $3400.00. As far as wear and tear goes you are going to run your engine hard with a turbo or a supercharger and it is going to have a shorter life no matter what. Choose what floats your boat. I like a regular turbo myself but from what you described it sounds like this is more up your alley.
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super charger= sounds like a computer working really hard
Turbo= Sounds Good :-P

go for turbo, more bang for the buck also
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i think sc sounds really cool lol. if i had the money i would do sc keep it clean
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Re: turbo or super charger ?

I'm not a big fan of hammering my firewall to make room for the SC setup lol.

It's a 4th gen thing. 5th genners clear.
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Re: turbo or super charger ?

As someone who has a supercharged vehicle i can say it is GREAT for a DD. its not a lude but the point is the same. Even with boost and a tune i still get 24+ mpg with conservative driving and the low end is awesome and provides good thrust throughout the entire rpm band. While not producing massive gains like a turbo it is a little easier to install and quite reliable. if you want more power out of it find a smaller pulley and port & polish the charger it will up your CFM and your boost levels thereby adding more power and TQ. if you really wanted to get into it add some cams and you will be eating turbo'd setups left and right.
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Re: turbo or super charger ?

this is better :D




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^ DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN ahhhhhhhh ooooohhh so sexy
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Holy sweet mother of jesus thats a procharged H22!
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Compound charged H22.....mmmm.
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It has a supercharger AND a turbo? I can't see the pic, so excuse me lol. If it does, then that's called twin charging...


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It's also called compound charging. It's called a lot of things. Mainly, it's called badass. Don't correct me.








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With the jrsc you'll get around 230Whp and lots of torque with bigger injectors and a tune..around 275-300 with a smaller pulley (9psi)
*it's very reliable! I use my lude as my daily driver..

Turbo- you can have whatever hp u want if u size up the turbo and all right.. I would Not leave the bottom end stock if I were turboing because you will eventually want more power

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Oooops..... Haha

Ninja edit!! I was wondering where my post about the foglights went!! Damn phone!! Haha
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Damn.. I had them working and when I put everything in and turned it on.. Nothing! Guess it's the shisty amp or fuse it comes with. I know everything is hooked up right since I got them to work before.. I also would hear a click when I would hit the fog switch.. Now I don't hear anything click, no light on the fog button, no fog light on :(

Would that be an amp or fuse? The ones it came with definitely look horrible.. Which one do y'all think it is? Or should I buy new ones anyway? Sorry for whorin this thread out but this is raterded

They look good just sitting there though

lol what the hell are you talking about ?? fog lights, amps? whats that got to do with turbos and SCs ?


thanks for all the great input every one
so far from what i have gathered if i want to make a fast car go turbo if i just want more Hp and be a lil quicker go SC and thats what im looking for. im not looking to make a 10, 11, or 12 second car lol just looking for that missing power that the prelude should have came with *caugh* k or J swap *caugh*)

00CDMLUDER you have a JRSC? what else do you have done to your car ? did you stay obd2 ? or convert how hard was it to install ( dont think its over my head ) and and common problems or issues that come with a SC ?

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Re: turbo or super charger ?

also any one use a rotex( i think its called ) super charger ?

the ones that look like a turbo but still run off a pully ?
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Re: turbo or super charger ?

00CDMLuder has another thread up about wiring up his foglights. He most likely just accidentally posted in this one instead of his other one.
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Re: turbo or super charger ?

get a 50shot(hp) wet nitrous system..cheap and not as dangerous as you may think it is.I did tons of research and there's alot of people with h22s doing it.
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