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Old 12-16-2010, 02:02 AM
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So I was doing a job at a house and noticed a prelude sunk into the ground in the back yard. The guy said he was selling it cause his son got a new car and didnt wanna put the time into that one anymore. Picked up a 97 SH. Has a Wings West kit on it. With only some hood and drvr side fender damage. 120,000. Seemed like a good deal, did research to make sure it was a true SH too. Picked up for 1,000. Good deal?
So now the bad. This kid was a moron. Been sitting for a year, but started right up. Has coilovers and they are waaayyyy too low, tires are rubbing. The brakes were down to metal, has a fairly good oil leak near the drvr side. Its got a sheared lug nut on pass. side(that side does feel like it has a shake, coilover or maybe lug?). Its missing some Vac lines. Now this part I knew about and its what im looking for the most input on is.. that its missing 1,3,5 gear, only couple times I got it into first. Any idea on anything?
Oh yeah, not to mention the Spectre plastic intake that was even clamped on, the turbo emblem over the truck H emblem and the NOS stick on window.

This is my first post on here so please be gentle<lude newb>.. thanks
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Old 12-16-2010, 12:40 PM
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ohh boy. im assuming it didnt have a turbo or a nitrous system at all? from what your saying 1,000 was too much for the car. if i were you i would start with replacing gaskets and seals, water pump, t belt, new clutch
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Re: To anyone that could point me in good direction

Sounds like you have a shifter cable problem, either broken or stretched.
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No turbo, No nos lol. Does run like a champ with only 2nd and 4th lol. The motor is not the orig. It has the Vtec H22 from a 00 prelude. Damn I was hoping I got a deal too. Figured worst case If all the work was not worth it, I would sell it for what I got it and walk away and break even.


As far as the cable I hope that may be the case. Earlier I was playing around with the shifter to see if anything felt irregular. When doing it ......It does not have that pop when it engages into the gear your going to. Also, I dont know if this is a prelude thing, but it seems like 1,3, and 5th are closer to Neutral as compared to 2,4,5. like the odd gears is a shorter travel distance from Neutral.
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Here is the car exterior.
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all 5th gens in america came with vtec H22
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O ok, told ya Im a lude newb lol. Sothe ATTS is really the only thing the makes the SH different really as far as performance?
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O ok, told ya Im a lude newb lol. Sothe ATTS is really the only thing the makes the SH different really as far as performance?
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-The Type SH springs are a bit taller.
-The struts are different as well, the base where the spring is perched sits lower on the Type SH, hence the taller spring. It has a little firmer spring rate than the base.
-The front knuckles are different, the radius rods, the front trailing arms, and the roll bars are a couple of millimeters thicker than the base front and rear. -The rear trailing arms are a little thicker as well but not by much.

-The only problems with after market struts would be having to modify the dust guards on the struts with stock springs. If you go after market springs and struts that are replaced properly you will not run into any issues

-Header collector is longer to accommodate ATTS
-Exhaust is 2-3ish inches shorter at the cat connection to accommodate the header differences.
-Type-SH oil filter is in a different location on the block
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Re: To anyone that could point me in good direction

Did some searching for the clutch problem (thanks phantom). Disconnected the shifter from the linkage and hooked it back up and now it goes into and stays in all my odd gears. But im still gonna replace bushing and check on everything else.

Also Ill search before I post.

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Re: To anyone that could point me in good direction

not a deal what ?? you paid 1000 for that red prelude you posted ? deal and a half dude

check tire size for the rubbing i had the wrong size on mine when i first got it and it rubbed ,

as for the 1,3,5 gears could be shift cable for sure worst comes to worst you buy a use tranny and pop it in and you still have a good deal

id replace that rear bumper asap,

oh and for an Sh (which some one all ready said ) you can only use other Sh springs unlike 4th gen and 5th gen non SH all used the same set up


all in all good buy !
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235x45 r17. with the coilovers. as you can see. turning is a very slow process.
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ohh boy. im assuming it didnt have a turbo or a nitrous system at all? from what your saying 1,000 was too much for the car. if i were you i would start with replacing gaskets and seals, water pump, t belt, new clutch

Too much how do you figure? That car looks to be in pretty good shape cosmetically speaking and if the tranny is shot then with that and replacing all the normal stuff like water pump, timing belt, gaskets etc.etc..I'd say he came out pretty good. You'll be in the car for about 3000 (figuring high) after you fix everything and that's not bad.

I'm not a fan of that ricer body kit or the other little stuff but hey it's not your fault
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I figured I got a good deal, just didnt know since this is my first Honda. More of a Datsun Z guy. But in all fairness. When I start out saying I bought a car for a Grand, that has been sitting for a year and sunk into the dirt out in the country side of Tenn. Anyone would assume the car was a waste of money. So had to get some pics up.
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Well, it could be worse I figure.
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Well, it could be worse I figure.
That's not the same car
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Well, it could be worse I figure.
No. That's way better. I would sell my house for that.
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Lol, sadly I could not find a kit more rice than the one on mine. I dont mind the side skirts(once they are mounted correctly), but I wanna find a solid bumber with no slits or lines. The kid told me he had hit like 4 mailboxes when he ran off the road. Thats why the hood is so jacked up. They put the stock front back on. Wonder if the front of the kit had some awesome 8inch. fog lights
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Well, it could be worse I figure.
LMFAO!!!!!

I say good deal. i payed 1000 for my 3G lude and shes taking a dump right now... got a B20 to put in as soon as time permits =P

but yeah def just do all the regular tune up stuff. get rid of that ricer rear end. I'd say you prolly have some ebay coilover kit on there so get rid of that and get something better. and figure out where that oil leak is coming from!!!!! and get it fixed before you waste money on anything else on the engine. because you dont want to go spending lots of money and come to find out ur block is messed up so you pretty much wasted money (this is what happened to me...)

so yeah. enjoy your lude =) i know i love mine. and 99.9% of the people on this forum love theirs =) so definitely have fun =)
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That's just a rear lip, right?

Anyway, good to see that you fixed the shifting problem. That's a clean ass car... aside from the bit of rice hanging off of it.

Also, those tires are WAAAY too big. You need something like a 205/45/17 or a 215/40/17. 235/45/17 is too tall.
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That's just a rear lip, right?

Anyway, good to see that you fixed the shifting problem. That's a clean ass car... aside from the bit of rice hanging off of it.

Also, those tires are WAAAY too big. You need something like a 205/45/17 or a 215/40/17. 235/45/17 is too tall.
Tall? Or Wide? Or both...
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Ok, so I thought I had fully fixed the shifting issue, but with my luck it is failing again. While Lude is not running I can pop it into all gears fine. Now while its running. It is more of a wild shot. Sometimes I can get it into first, then second, but not up to 3rd. Feels like the alighnment for the gears is moving in and out of position. Ive searched some sites and such to try to find a good pic to help me out. Can someone post a pic of 2 things im looking for if you dont mind. Trying to find a pic of the Vac lines from the tranny<right below the Dist Cap 10 Gauge line I believe. Then nipple for this line is pointed straight up>. Also trying to find a pic of how the Shifter assembly <after the firewall cable and components> are supposed to look and things that might come loose or rotted over time.

I know this is a lot to ask for , but my knowledge of Hondas are horrible.
Thnx in advance.

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