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Old 12-07-2010, 12:29 PM
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hhey, i was wandering if i can get some help with my starter. just got a 1999 prelude not to long ago and just recently when i turn my key, i hear rapid clicks. does that mean my starter is kaput? also if it is, where is it located. thanks for the help.
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No. Rapid clicks means your battery is low.
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all my acc, lights, radio etc works though. the battery is new, bought it about
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could it be an ignition issue?
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Re: Car Troubles

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Chances are its the battery, starter or alternator. One happened to fail. You need to test them and find out which. And just because you replaced the battery 6 months ago doesn't mean it cannot fail.

Although you might wanna try just charging the battery first, especially if the car has been sitting for a long period of time.
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Most likely dead battery. Auto Zone tests them for free
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That they do. They also do starter and alternator testing as well, if I'm not mistaken.
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will check them out. thanks for the help guys
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That they do. They also do starter and alternator testing as well, if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah, but I think you have to actually remove the parts from your car to get them tested there. So the battery would be the easiest Could be wrong though.
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Yeah, but I think you have to actually remove the parts from your car to get them tested there. So the battery would be the easiest Could be wrong though.
Nope, you are correct, you do have to remove the starter, not sure about the alternator.

Although with a DMM you can check everything on the car yourself, provided you have one.
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Re: Car Troubles

Yeah you have to take the alternator off for them too. My alternator went out a few months ago, and for the 5 months leading up to that point, I thought it was my battery too. Like they said, your dash lights and radio can still power on even if the charge is low. If you can, try a quick jumpstart too, let it charge for 5-10min w/out the radio on, turn the car off, let it sit for a minute or two, and then try starting it again. If it starts, most likely it's the battery, and if it doesn't, it could be a bad battery or a failing alternator, because that would indicate the battery isn't charging.
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Re: Car Troubles

heres how to test them
starter- turn headlights on, turn key if lights stay bright its starter
battery- same thing but turn headlights on if dim most likely battery
alternator- jump car remove the negative battery cable if car shuts off its alternator
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Or...you could test them the correct and accurate way...
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Re: Car Troubles

Loose battery connection may also be a culprit.

As far as AutoZone testing stuff:
-Starter : Yes it has to be removed and brought in
-Battery : Removal not required, however the machine inside is more accurate
-Alternator : Removal not required, however the machine inside is more detailed

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that will show you wats wrong and also garages use that to test things out so i dont get how thats not a correct way
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that will show you wats wrong and also garages use that to test things out so i dont get how thats not a correct way
Because it involves interpretation, which can lead to error.
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that will show you wats wrong and also garages use that to test things out so i dont get how thats not a correct way
If you look in my signature, there is a link to Battery, starter and alternator testing procedures.

Thats the correct way, if you feel like reading for a bit.


Another thing you have to remember if, most garages and shops, don't do it the correct way. They do it the quick way. A lot of the time it will work, but not all the time.
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Re: Car Troubles

have a friend tap ur starter with a hammer while u try to start it lol srry its the ghetto way but it works
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If your absolutely positive your battery has a good charge and you hear a rapid clicking, it could be the starter wheel just spinning but not making contact with the flywheel.. I could be wrong.. Have you tried to push start the car?
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Not if it's an automatic

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Please never repeat that to anyone ever again. Unless your vehicle is old as dirt, you do not whack it with a hammer. Ever.

Why? Back in the old days they used a hammer to try to get a certain piece in the starter to align properly, which if it worked, would tell you not only the problem, but it was a temporary fix. Nowadays in our newer, smaller starters, they use permanent magnets (PM starters). What happens when you whack a magnet with a hammer?

Well, in case I need to draw it out for you, the magnets which make the starter work are now all in pieces, which not only didn't fix the problem, but now you NEED to buy a new starter, when you may not have had to in the first place. Unless you are 100% positive of what design starter you have, and 100% positive that it isn't the PM type, you do not whack it with a hammer. Chances are you won't know what type of starter you have til you take it apart. And pretty much all starters nowadays are the PM type, and I can just about garantee that 4th and 5th gens use the PM type.


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Very unlikely that that problem would even happen, and if it did, it wouldn't be making a rapid clicking noise. I would suspect electrical circuits before mechanical ones, especially since its winter now.
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My grandpa always told me that if you have an old engine that isn't working right, you immerse it in oil and hit it with **** until it works!

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Well, in case I need to draw it out for you, the magnets which make the starter work are now all in pieces, which not only didn't fix the problem, but now you NEED to buy a new starter, when you may not have had to in the first place.
Actually, breaking the pieces inside is going to be a possibility no matter what. When you strike a magnet with a hammer (or other similar hard object) repeatedly, it will actually demagnetize it. This is because the molecules in the magnet are all aligned with one another in one direction. Striking it with a hammer causes chaos and disorder amongst the molecules, leaving a sh!tstorm of angry, disorderly molecules that no longer create a magnetic field.

However, you would have to use a big f*cking hammer and strike it plenty of times to do any real harm. You'll destroy the case before destroying the magnet(s).
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Actually, breaking the pieces inside is going to be a possibility no matter what. When you strike a magnet with a hammer (or other similar hard object) repeatedly, it will actually demagnetize it. This is because the molecules in the magnet are all aligned with one another in one direction. Striking it with a hammer causes chaos and disorder amongst the molecules, leaving a sh!tstorm of angry, disorderly molecules that no longer create a magnetic field.

However, you would have to use a big f*cking hammer and strike it plenty of times to do any real harm. You'll destroy the case before destroying the magnet(s).
Incorrect my friend, it is very easy to break the magnets inside of the starter before doing harm to the case, and you don't have to beat it too hard either. Those magnets are fragile. There is a special note about it in my E&E 1 books.
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Incorrect my friend, it is very easy to break the magnets inside of the starter before doing harm to the case, and you don't have to beat it too hard either. Those magnets are fragile. There is a special note about it in my E&E 1 books.
Interesting. I've beat on quite a few trying to get them apart here at work. Then again, they're about three to four times the size of our Honda starters lol.

Any idea what the magnets in our starters are made of? I'm fairly positive that they aren't ceramic or ferrite magnets.
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