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Old 12-06-2010, 10:02 PM
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Timing belt time-concerns questions and input

Soooo My original h22a4 is about to roll over to 180k and is in need of a timing belt soon. First off I have met the person who owned the car before me and he is a mechanic, he did the last timing belt replacement himself he said between 100k and 110k. i do not have the tools/garage or know how to do the job myself. I called my mechanic and told him what i wanted done and he quoted me $950 to 1k. That is for the timing belt kit (timing belt,water pump, balancer shaft belt, and both tensioners). The valve cover gasket if it is not re usable he said. Also the cam seals and crank seal and a valve lash adjustment, and all serpentine belts. i just dont want to spend that much money and have my engine crap out on me in 30k miles. Should i spend the money to have this done or just ride it out and then have the engine rebuilt? By my knowledge the engine is still pretty healthy. it has the normal oil drinking that h22a's do but otherwise i think it is ok.
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I would get another quote somewhere else first, but Defiantly Don't just ride it out and wait for it to break!! Lol. It is an interference motor and the valves will slam up against the pistons and and bend when your timing belt snaps. You do not want to wait till that happens. I did the same exact job on my car and did it myself and the parts all came out to about $280.00. So the other $700 you are spending is what "your mechanic" is charging you for Labor. I'd go see if you can find somewhere that will do it for less. Or if you really wanna save, find a good friend that knows about cars that owes you a favor and try to tackle it yourself.
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I realy didnt intend on just riding it out. i also know that its an interference motor. I have spoken with the guy who owned the car before me and he is going to be getting me a quote. I believe when i spoke with my mechanic he said the timing belt kit was around $340 dollars and thats not including other gaskets and seal and belts. I know a chunk of the money is going to be labor though. He quoted me at 6 hours, he also used to be the head mechanic at my local honda dealer. He said they always charge 7 hours for the timing belt job on my car. Also i do not have any friends that i would trust enough to do this job for me. I have time to prepare for this as i said i have almost 20k more miles (give or take some), winter also just got here so the civic gets all the road time now.
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Get your parts here and spend A LOT Less than $340

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Re: Timing belt time-concerns questions and input

I got a quote for $360 for that at a local REPUTABLE shop. I ended up doing it myself later. It wasnt too bad, the biggest pain was getting the new greddy belt on.
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I got a quote for $360 for that at a local REPUTABLE shop. I ended up doing it myself later. It wasnt too bad, the biggest pain was getting the new greddy belt on.
Is that $360 for just the belts or what?
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At the Honda dealership here, they'd charge between $500 & $600 for the belts, water pump, tensioner, and labor. They wouldn't be adjusting the valve lash so that's where Generally, a timing belt job at a shop will include the timing belt and water pump w/ new antifreeze, not usually your other serpentine belts or a valve adjustment unless you're willing to pay for them.

One thing that 99% of people overlook, including the Honda shop, is the balancer shaft seal RETAINER. If this isn't replaced, you'll be leaking a tiny bit of oil and won't be able to see where it's coming from because it's behind the timing belf cover.

Easy way to check and be sure is to call a couple places and ask them first-hand though. Will save you lots of wondering if you get that info on your own, but when you're asking, be sure to confirm the parts their putting on. Some lazy shops will re-use the auto tensioner which is not good.
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One thing that 99% of people overlook, including the Honda shop, is the balancer shaft seal. If this isn't replaced, you'll be leaking a tiny bit of oil and won't be able to see where it's coming from because it's behind the timing belf cover.

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I've looked at quite a few writeups on timing belt changes (PZ/PP/Mitchell) and I haven't seen anything about replacing the balancer shaft seal. Or maybe I just overlooked it...
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Is that $360 for just the belts or what?
that was for new belts, seals, tensioner, valve lash, and labor.

i ended up spending a bit more doing it myself but i bought higher quality parts, and did the manual tensioner swap.
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I've looked at quite a few writeups on timing belt changes (PZ/PP/Mitchell) and I haven't seen anything about replacing the balancer shaft seal. Or maybe I just overlooked it...
Balance Shaft Seal RETAINER. Sorry, forgot that important word. If it's not replaced and isn't in good condition, the seal could wiggle it's way out.
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Ive bought a few things from Majestic and i realy like them. My only concern is im not sure if he will guarantee the work if i get the parts myself. Ill ask him about that. Also i dont know exactly which parts ill be needing for the job
They should guarantee the work if they are new Honda parts still in the bag. Its the same parts that they would be putting on. As for the parts you need.....You pretty much listed everything in your first thread.

Timing belt, balance shaft belt, water pump, tensioner, or manual tensioner kit, cam seals, crank seal, coolant, valve cover gasket with bolt grommets, dip stick bottom o ring, rear balance shaft access bolt washer, serpentine belts, and I think thats it.
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