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Oil and Oil Filter Recommendations...

My car is approaching 75,000 miles on the odometer. Since day one the oil has been changed by the dealer, so nothing but the generic Honda oil has been going into the crankcase.

I'm going to start changing the oil on my own. Down in Florida, winter weather is a non-factor, and the summers are very brutal, so I'm thinking of using 10w-30 as opposed to 5w-30 oil.

With the weather conditions, maintenance history, and mileage in mind, what would you recommend I use for my car? Would switching to synthetic be a good idea? Does anyone like Fram filters? How about those engine oils that are advertised specifically for high-mileaged vehicles like the one from Valvoline?

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I use Mobil 5000 10w30. Very good oil for fairly cheap. Valvoline and Havoline are also decent oils. I'd shy away from Cartrol, and I wouldn't touch Pennzoil or Quaker State. Mobil 1 and K&N are good filters, but don't have a good price/performance. STP and Purolator are just as good at 1/3 the cost. Again, I wouldn't touch a Fram unless I was in dire need. They've gotten a bit better than they used to be, but still not up to par with STP and Purolator
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Cool, thanks. Also, I forgot to ask in my original post, where do you buy the washer that goes between the drain bolt and oil pan? Do you re-use the old one?
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definitely agree with purolator. i use K&N oil filters when ever available. stay away from FRAM. i would definitely switch to synthetic. but if im not mistaken, honda uses synthetic. i might be wrong though. the only experience i had with the high mileage oils was with my 88 accord for about a year. i had a very small leak coming from right around the crank pulley. when i started using high mileage oils it actually stopped leaking and it seemed to run a bit smoother. but im sure there are people that will say high mileage oils are just gimmicks. im not gonna say otherwise. only because, often times, the effects you feel from doing things to your car are in your head. though i would say, i dont think it will hurt your car to use high mileage oil.

edit: you can reuse the washer
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Thanks. I'm going to keep an eye out for the Mobile 5000 oil and Purolator filters.

By the way, my experience has been 4 quarts when I had a 3.5 RL. Is that how much you use for the Prelude, 4 quarts?
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By the way, my experience has been 4 quarts when I had a 3.5 RL. Is that how much you use for the Prelude, 4 quarts?
i use like 5.5 qts. and that filled it up almost to the top dot. 5qts was just above the bottom dot. i think the owners manual say 5.1. what will happen is when you fill it up with like 5 quarts you're supposed to start it to check for leaks and put some in the oil filter. so it will drop a little also because there is some in the head to. let it sit for a few minutes and check it again. and add oil as needed.
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Really? Is that the manufacturer recommendation as well?

I read that the Preludes are common at burning oil. But 5.5 quarts?
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manufacture recommends 5.1 qrts. it says it in the owners manual. but when ever i put 5 qrts it sits at the bottom dot on the dip stick.

yea supposedly 5th gens burn oil. but i think its in relation to how much time you spend in VVVVVTTAAAAAAKK. i rarely use it so between 3k miles i dont see a drop in my oil level.
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mobil, wix, and motorcraft make the best filters on the market. period. there have been numerous studies done to prove this. Mobil 1 and royal purple motor oil are tops. these materials are very expensive, but our ludes deserve the best. If I can find that website about the oil and filters, I'll post it up.
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p.s. check the washer and threads on the oil drain plug for wear. I replace both every year.
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"High milage" oils have additives that help swell your rubber seals to help keep them from leaking
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Hamp Synergy oil filters, only thing is you have to order them but the you still come out cheaper than buyin a K&N each time you change the oil, as for oil, most dealerships use a synthetic blend, so i would go with a synthetic oil, just dont go back to a standard oil once you started using synthetics, as far as oil weight, due to how hot it gets in FL you're more than safe going with a 10/40 weight oil

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I know I can find Purolator locally. I'm also leaning towards using either Mobil 1 Extended Performance synthetic or Mobil Clean High Mileage.

Even though Mobil guarantees protection up to 15,000 miles on its synthetic, what would be the recommended oil change interval on the Prelude? I do put a lot of miles on my car every day so I'd like to reduce the frequency of changes.
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I wouldn't use Purolator oil filters.
K&N and Mobil oil filters are hands down the best i've used.
I've noticed that they pretty much eliminate dry-starts. You are paying well over $8 bucks for a damn oil filter!!
I currently use Fram. It's ok. Better than STP or Purolator, IMO and is also competitively priced.

...for oil filters, i suggest using the Hamp ones, like 91si4ws said. You can get them bulk on ebay. Hamp is the OEM Honda fiters FYI.

For oil, DONT use Mobil 1 synthetic. That stuff burns oil like no tomorrow...witnessed that in 4 different cars including a 5th gen Prelude, Altima & Camry's.
Use Castrol oil, or any other dino(non-synthetic) oil.
10w-30 is just fine for the hot Florida weather.
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This is where I got my filter info from

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html

As for oil, I'd still recommend Mobil non-synthetic for an older car. Generally, if you don't use synthetic oil right after your motor is first broken in, it'll burn and leak easier
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Cool, thanks! I'll be keeping an eye out for K&N filters--I believe they're carried at Autozone. And as for the oil, I might just go with the Mobil Clean High Mileage.
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I wouldn't use Purolator oil filters.
K&N and Mobil oil filters are hands down the best i've used.
I've noticed that they pretty much eliminate dry-starts. You are paying well over $8 bucks for a damn oil filter!!
I currently use Fram. It's ok. Better than STP or Purolator, IMO and is also competitively priced.

...for oil filters, i suggest using the Hamp ones, like 91si4ws said. You can get them bulk on ebay. Hamp is the OEM Honda fiters FYI.

For oil, DONT use Mobil 1 synthetic. That stuff burns oil like no tomorrow...witnessed that in 4 different cars including a 5th gen Prelude, Altima & Camry's.
Use Castrol oil, or any other dino(non-synthetic) oil.
10w-30 is just fine for the hot Florida weather.

mobil one in my car. doesn't burn a drop.
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Royal Purple is what is recommend by most of the honda techs i work with, but pricey. Mobil one is really good oil too. Most prelude owners use mobil one, castrol is good also. If you got the funds get the purple. Wouldn't use anything more than those brands for preludes. As for filters, k&n is about 12 dollars every time for a oil change starts to get ridiculous when your spending damn near 60 for an oil change. I don't mind it, cause i get it wholesale, so i can manage. If you got high miles recommend royal purple got more additives to keep the motor running like new. I use lucas oil stabilizer synthetic of course, Hamps is good, but Napa sell same filters just under there name for alot less. Trust me i know we do about 70 oil changes a week on average. The recommended for honda engines is 5W20. Just informing the prelude world about some info.
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Mobil 1 refutes the myth that synthetics leak from older engines. Unfortutely, I can't post the link. But go to the website and click Why Synthetics, and choose Myths from the left.
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