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Old 11-17-2010, 11:21 PM
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improving low end performance?

hey, i have a 2001 honda prelude, automatic..
and i was wondering if anyone knows any ways too improve low end torque dramatically without breaking the bank.

i was also wondering if anyone knows if an engine torque damper helps at all?


i already have a injen intake and borla exhaust system.

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Re: improving low end performance?

save up for tranny swap... or k swap. lol
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Re: improving low end performance?

agreed with tranny swap.
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Re: improving low end performance?

Thanks for replys but I can't afford a tranny swap right now (I'm 17) with a minimum wage part time job lol. I'm talking something that would cost me about 500$
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Re: improving low end performance?

Probably want to look into improving throttle response, not technically torque but it should feel that way.
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Re: improving low end performance?

Dramatic increase? Save up for that swap
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Re: improving low end performance?

sorry to say but the swap would get you the most fun for your money. nothing for under 500 will get you that much power on an auto.
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Re: improving low end performance?

buy a good pulleys set...
that would make you gain something...

you can't in real life ''improve low end torque dramatically without breaking the bank.''
your borla thing is really not that good.

to tune a car set a final goal and put a structure withe mini goal to achieve.
and my final advise is don't get into the serious tuning until you have a full time job.
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Re: improving low end performance?

You will quickly learn that "Performance" "dramatic" and "cheap" will never be used in a post unless used in a question. There are no cheap real performance upgrades. You wanna play, you gotta pay. These aren't deisels where you can slap a tuner on and pull a Kubota up a hill at 80 mph.
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Re: improving low end performance?

Are you using the stock intake with the resonator still in place?
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Re: improving low end performance?

you can get a tranny swap for $500 if you do the work.

Hell, i have an f22 tranny I'm selling...It's not an H22 but would still pull better than that auto lol.
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Re: improving low end performance?

Ya def get rid of that autotragic lol. But for 500 i would reccomend some exhaust. maybe a header if u can afford it. oooorrrrrrrr u could buy coilovers/struts and do a drop haha.
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Re: improving low end performance?

your shouldnt be looking to make an automatic faster cause ur just gonna end up with a broken auto tranny
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Re: improving low end performance?

He's gonna have to buy a tranny eventually with an auto..
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Re: improving low end performance?

If you aren't going to drop a nice amount of $$ on a header than there really is no point. Bisi or bust but seriously though. Swap that tranny. You'll love your life.
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Custom grind of a cam with more overlap (most cams move power up the RPM range).
Adjustable cam gears, more advanced cam timing.
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Longer intake runner, see intake manifold spacer
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Will advancing timing hurt mpg?
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Not really. However, with lower grade fuels it will cause pre-ignition, which will then cause the knock sensor to signal the ECU to retard the timing.
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Re: improving low end performance?

Well right now I have 135000kms on the car, Its winter & I live in Canada, I'll keep the automatic until I can afford a swap for maybe a lightly used manual transmission. Btw sorry if my question sounds dumb, I bought my prelude in June so I don't know much.
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Well right now I have 135000kms on the car, Its winter & I live in Canada, I'll keep the automatic until I can afford a swap for maybe a lightly used manual transmission. Btw sorry if my question sounds dumb, I bought my prelude in June so I don't know much.
Only one way to learn dude.
It's pretty much just that between the H22 not responding that great to the basic bolt-ons, not really being able to tune an OBDII automatic ECU, and the auto trans already having such a high fail rate before adding more HP to stress it out, that your first step is going to be the swap. (It sucks, I wish I would have bought a 5-speed myself)

The route I would suggest would be to save up for the swap, (maybe invest into the JDM T2W2 with factory LSD) and look into converting over to an OBDI ECU at the same time (since you have to replace the ECU in the swap anyways). Now, the only part of that I have not researched is if you have to tune the OBDI ECU to the Prelude even though the motor is still stock. I would assume not, but some input from someone with more experience would be great.

If you just want to stick with the standard M2Y4 trans and OBDII Ecu that came in the base model Prelude, then a safe guess for parts will be around $1,000-$1,500. A shop in town quoted me $2,800 for labor and their parts. (That's all in USD for the record, and I'm too tired to do the Canadian conversion right. I think you guys just pay in hockey pucks and Tim Horton doughnuts anyways right?)
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Re: improving low end performance?

Thankyou verymuch for your input wargames, Helped me out alot! Pucks & donuts?? Ya that's the new currency up north here haha!
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