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Cool air intake in winter?

Snow hasn't hit Pullman, WA. yet. But im driving back home for thanks giving with sow most likely in the forecast. This is the first winter i've had in my lude. I have a injen cold air intake. Im wondering if getting snow in the intake is a problem? Thanks.
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Re: Cool air intake in winter?

There's really nothing to worry about man. In my last prelude, my CAI filter was completely exposed to the elements (the splash guard underneath was cut away for better flow by the previous owner :shrug:). I drove in some crazy ass blizzards, as well as massive flooding. The only time you will get problems is when your filter is completely submerged in water. Avoid that and you'll be fine. No worries man.
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Re: Cool air intake in winter?

Cold air intake... summer
EXTRA FREEZING COLD AIR INTAKE... winter... better performance? :P
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Re: Cool air intake in winter?

Iono about you but i would take it off and have a sri for winter. but thats just me cause last winter my cousin hydrolocked his motor cause of his cai. unless he was just a dumbass and was not being careful. but iono its up to you. and i wonder if you would get better performance from having a cai in the winter lol
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Re: Cool air intake in winter?

Someone always ends up just telling the OP to get the AEM v2 for the best of both worlds, so I'll be that guy. Keeps the conscience clear too.
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Re: Cool air intake in winter?

Don't use a CAI in winter, your lude will get a sore throat!


lol, shouldn't be a problem unless you're driving through snow drifts or in really, really deep puddles.



And I'm not feelin the v2, too expensive. Plus I think the Type S stock intake with a K&N/AEM drop in filter would get you the biggest gains.


Or something like that.
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Re: Cool air intake in winter?

i find with stock VS cai is that in winter my car warms up faster with stock and since the roads are full of ice and snow , that tiny bit of extra power is not really worth it to me

i like my car warm :)
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Re: Cool air intake in winter?

Well this is kinda an interesting conversation. Im seeing lots of different angles. A filter in the bumper CAI I'm not seeing as a great idea. The cold air on the highly heat vindictive aluminum will surely freeze any water that gets on it causing snow and ice build up...potentially. I would think keeping the filter in the engine bay would be the best bet. I cannot think of ANY possible way your car could warm up slower with a CAI vs. Stock. Its not the intake temp that regulates how fast the coolant in the block warms up. Its the internal combusion that makes the heat which warms up the block which will inevitably flow through the heater core. I can't fathom how stock could make a difference. My suggestion would be if you have a nice CAI take the filter off and slap it on a fleabay special SRI. Probably$ 30 invested and price of mind knowing your engines respirator is in a safe place.
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Re: Cool air intake in winter?

If you wanna be super safe, you can get an $8 sri pipe off ebay and slap a nice filter on it and you can upgrade it with the bpi flowstack without spending $300 on a aem v2.
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Re: Cool air intake in winter?

Or just use the stock intake with a K&N drop in filter, which has been dyno proven to give the biggest power gains.
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Re: Cool air intake in winter?

Brash, this brings up an interesting point. In cold weather, say 10degrees F. Wouldn't the cold rushing air on an aluminum intake which has much more fluctuating temperature conductive properties than the stock plastic. Would that help lower the intake charge temp enough to make it that much more o2 dense? I understand on a dyno where you have a lot of heat saturation the stock breather out performs aluminum due to simple propertie. But what about at the given temperature? Im sure the differance is minimal and arbitrary but just thinking out loud.
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Re: Cool air intake in winter?

I'm in the same situation as the OP.

I want to put my stock intake in... but I don't have it anymore. I think I'll just ride it through the winter since the CAI isn't a big brand really..
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Brash, this brings up an interesting point. In cold weather, say 10degrees F. Wouldn't the cold rushing air on an aluminum intake which has much more fluctuating temperature conductive properties than the stock plastic. Would that help lower the intake charge temp enough to make it that much more o2 dense? I understand on a dyno where you have a lot of heat saturation the stock breather out performs aluminum due to simple propertie. But what about at the given temperature? Im sure the differance is minimal and arbitrary but just thinking out loud.
Well the problem is that in 10 degree weather, you probably shouldn't be worrying about 2-3 horsepower. My biggest fear is other people, not my intake, I know how to not drive like an ass.
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Brash, this brings up an interesting point. In cold weather, say 10degrees F. Wouldn't the cold rushing air on an aluminum intake which has much more fluctuating temperature conductive properties than the stock plastic. Would that help lower the intake charge temp enough to make it that much more o2 dense? I understand on a dyno where you have a lot of heat saturation the stock breather out performs aluminum due to simple propertie. But what about at the given temperature? Im sure the differance is minimal and arbitrary but just thinking out loud.
You make a valid point Jesse. I'm not sure this has ever been tested, much less thought about. The cooler intake charge will no doubt make a little more power, but unless the ECU is tuned for it, I would'nt think it would make a noticable increase. Sure, the stock ECU can retune itself for various conditions when required, but this takes driving time. But like you said, the increase would be minimal and arbitrary, and only for a month or two at a time.
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Re: Cool air intake in winter?

Thanks for the input guys. I think i'm going to stick with the one I have. I am very careful around puddles. I haven't looked to see exactly where or how low the filter is. As I understand it you have to completely or very nearly submerge the filter. Is this correct?
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Thanks for the input guys. I think i'm going to stick with the one I have. I am very careful around puddles. I haven't looked to see exactly where or how low the filter is. As I understand it you have to completely or very nearly submerge the filter. Is this correct?
Well, put it this way, if water is a quarter of the way over the filter the water is going into the motor and doing massive damage. I know from experience.
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Re: Cool air intake in winter?

I could see a colder intake charge causing the car to warm up slightly slower. Think cardboard in front of a radiator. Just not as big of a difference. Cold is cold.
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Re: Cool air intake in winter?

But cardboard over the radiator holds heat in the cooling system which is the only bearing on how fast the engine warms up. Not the temp of the air that is getting subject to high heat, pressure explosion.
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where in WA do you live? i'm in gig harbor
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Re: Cool air intake in winter?

when its cool out i hear my CAI sucking louder...... idk if it is or its just me hearing stuff
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My prelude seems to love the cold air with the cai...seems like I have more power
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Re: Cool air intake in winter?

I changed my CAI out now that winter is here and for a reason. Driving home one day on the freeway in the rain my car started to throw a check engine light. After a short period of time I started to drive up the pass and I couldn't get into the throttle, my car just wouldn't let me accelerate like normal. To make a long story short I immediately took my car to the shop and had my mechanic check the code and it was misfires on my cylinders. Now this has happened twice and both in the rain, coincidence I think not. Don't get me wrong I was driving through puddles either, I guess just the rain lapping off of my tires onto the filter was enough to cause this.

I took my car to our shop at work and cut my CAI into 2 pieces and can now attach them with a rubber sleeve. I have a short pipe now for the winter that stays inside the engine bay and a longer pipe for the nice summer months.
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cold air intake+ winter= really cold air intake...power :)
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Snow hasn't hit Pullman, WA. yet. But im driving back home for thanks giving with sow most likely in the forecast. This is the first winter i've had in my lude. I have a K&N cold air intakes. Im wondering if getting snow in the intake is a problem? Thanks.
Getting snow is just natural and doesn't have a problem in the intakes. :D

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