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Old 11-15-2010, 02:09 AM
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Any tuners wanna help me out??

ok so i was just curious. Right now i have a h22a, cold air intake, skunk2 intake manifold, headers, high flow cat, and cat back exhaust 2.5 inch piping. Now what im wondering is if anybody could tell me AROUND how much whp i would be running once i get my parts. over the winter im buying skunk2 valve springs, retainers, stage 2 cams, cam gears, p28 ecu, and hondata chip. with a good tune about how much would i be running. regardless it will be decently quick for what it is. i will do more work no doubt after that but for this winter thats my plan. any help at all would be great thanks.
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i think ur car would go faster if u get a HUGE spoiler, flame stickers on the car and neon lights that change color.
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i think ur car would go faster if u get a HUGE spoiler, flame stickers on the car and neon lights that change color.
GTFO man.

you'll be anywhere around 215-230whp, depended on what header your going to run. And how good your tuner is
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i forgot to throw valves, tb, and fuel rail into that list but thanks
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GTFO man.

you'll be anywhere around 215-230whp, depended on what header your going to run. And how good your tuner is
you really think ill only have 230whp?? if you look at dynos of skunk2 stage 2 cams (everything else stock) it goes from 160whp to 200. so thats starting me off at 200. then add all of the bolt ons i already have i know for a fact that will give me atleast 230 (headers, high flow cat, cat back 2.5, intake, skunk2 intake manifold). then on top of that add cam gears, valves, valve springs and retainers, throttle body, fuel rail, p28ecu and a tune. idk personally i think im gonna easily have over 230. but thats just me
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Keep in mind he also has a higher/better C/R 11:1 i believe.



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All said and done my build finished almost as planned. I predicted 225whp/190wtq but I'm happy with the results.

I was lucky enough to have the car tuned with Neptune by Zeeman.
If I remember correctly my base run numbers were 169wtq/210whp





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ok so i was just curious. Right now i have a h22a, cold air intake, skunk2 intake manifold, headers, high flow cat, and cat back exhaust 2.5 inch piping. Now what im wondering is if anybody could tell me AROUND how much whp i would be running once i get my parts. over the winter im buying skunk2 valve springs, retainers, stage 2 cams, cam gears, p28 ecu, and hondata chip. with a good tune about how much would i be running. regardless it will be decently quick for what it is. i will do more work no doubt after that but for this winter thats my plan. any help at all would be great thanks.
i have the same mods, well on a h22a4, running a p28 on crome and made 202whp and 152wtq. so ya depending on ur header and exactly which cams you get, i'd guess 230ish like the other guy said. if not slightly more then that.

speaking of which, what cams are you looking at? cuz i've alot of great things about the skunk2 pro1's.

and why hondata? have you looked into neptune at all? or any of the other tuning programs?
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Re: Any tuners wanna help me out??

im not going with hondata right away tharts further down the road and im going with skunk2 stage2 cams
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Re: Any tuners wanna help me out??

well once you tune it, you'll need some sort of program.. i mean thats the basis of tuning. but you can always do like me and just go with crome. its free and works. just doesnt have alot of features hondata or neptune can add in. like a antitheft mode or such.. stil has launch control, shift lights, etc
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230 is wishful thinking on stock stroke
really? even with cams and a good tune?
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really....

unless you get on a dyno that produces super inflated numbers.
hmm ya i woulda thought you could hit around that with cams and such. but i'll go with ur word, i know you know ur shit.
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add displacement and the goal is easier to obtain
well ya thats a duh. lol hence the saying "no replacement for displacement"
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230 is wishful thinking on stock stroke
did you stroke yours? if so whats your displacement
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i know this is gonna sound like a real stupid question but rough estimate- how much did that run you
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Re: Any tuners wanna help me out??

FIRST OF ALL
when you put a skunk2 intake manifold with either a turbo or cams you get a large power gain because they are set up for working with eachother. AND with a fuel rail and a throttle body that he is getting he will add another 20 with the upgraded cams. dont forget all the **** he already has on he will be running 250whp easily especially if he gets it tuned
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FIRST OF ALL
when you put a skunk2 intake manifold with either a turbo or cams you get a large power gain because they are set up for working with eachother. AND with a fuel rail and a throttle body that he is getting he will add another 20 with the upgraded cams. dont forget all the **** he already has on he will be running 250whp easily especially if he gets it tuned
R U serious? Is there a button for taking away rep? WTF!???!!!!

That has to be a joke, I mean really. 250 with what he has now and some cams? Maybe you should take a look at this :::Ogsmakdade::: 99 base Lude 5spd and scroll down until you see the dyno chart of a real build and how much horsepower he is making.

It's one thing to say if he has a turbo but he never ever mentioned anything about turbo and he's also not stated anything about port and polishing his head or upgrading his block with higher compression pistons, polishing his crank...nada. He hasn't even mentioned the header that he is using.

OMG Skunk2 parts = loads of bitches and tons of horsepower
C'mon guy get real.

To the OP look at the link I posted of OG's build and you can see what you can expect a bit more from a "real" perspective.
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im not saying skunk2 parts put together smart ass im saying any skunk2 intake manifold with cams is a huge hp gain its PROVEN dip****. thats what they are set up for. AND all the other **** he is gonna put on it. and no offense to ogsmakdade his **** is super clean and nice but polishing and makin it look pretty doesnt give it more horsepower thats like saying puttin flame stickers on ur car like mr.man up top ads horsepower
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and no offense to u man but ive ran cars with and without cams on a skunk2 ina a shop, huge difference
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im not saying skunk2 parts put together smart ass im saying any skunk2 intake manifold with cams is a huge hp gain its PROVEN dip****. thats what they are set up for. AND all the other **** he is gonna put on it. and no offense to ogsmakdade his **** is super clean and nice but polishing and makin it look pretty doesnt give it more horsepower thats like saying puttin flame stickers on ur car like mr.man up top ads horsepower

And I'm saying that it's not going to get 250 like you claim. Do you even know what a port and polish does? Knife edged and polished crank? I think you need to read a little bit more before you open your mouth. These things do help in the addition of HP. I call BS when I see it because you're on a worldly platform misinforming people that are reading this. Please refrain from talking out of your ass in the future, and I mean it in the kindest of ways

The proof is in the puddin so they say, and I have seen so many cars with these mods not dyno at 250 or get close it's ridiculous. I know you love Skunk2 and I didn't mean to hurt your feelings sweetheart but you're wrong and that's just it. Good day sir!
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when you put a skunk2 intake manifold with either a turbo or cams you get a large power gain because they are set up for working with eachother. AND with a fuel rail and a throttle body that he is getting he will add another 20 with the upgraded cams. dont forget all the **** he already has on he will be running 250whp easily especially if he gets it tuned
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since when does a fuel rail add power?


Dont go running your mouth acting like you have a clue when you dont.
fuel rail ads power when you have injectors and pump because more fuel being pumped in. and aight aight take it easy guys. I know what i know. done it in shops and seen it happen. say what you want
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the only reason you get a bigger fuel rail is when you have so much power and have such large injectors that they suck the rail dry.

it doesnt gain power at all. wtf. I'd love to know what shop you worked at that recommended running bigger fuel rails to make more power.

so tell me this, since you are trying to shove your ideals down peoples throat without really knowing what you are talking about.....what physics would a bigger fuel rail provide in order to gain HP just by adding the fuel rail? Do you tune for a bigger fuel rail? is it going to change fuel delivery?

what does "having more fuel pumped in" have to do with the injectors doing anything with it? Just because you get a bigger rail, doesnt mean the engines needs the extra fuel or that the injectors can do anything with it.

point being and i repeat, you only need to run a larger volume fuel rail when you make so much power and have such large injectors that the stock rail does not have enough volume without sucking it dry and thus dropping fuel pressure.


and to your other comment about running the Skunk2 IM with and without cams...huge difference. NO ****. you added aftermarket cams, its supposed to increase power.

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ahhhhh i love people who just talk complete bullsh!t and ACT like they everything! plus i know for a fact that blake(98vtec) knows his ****. id trust his word on this stuff over just about anyone else's
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and blake (98vtec) is absolutely correct on both counts. Vestec, I would love to see any kind of proof (dyno sheets?) to support your claims. Well, you won't be able to, but I would like to know where you are getting your *cough* "knowledge" from.
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alright so on that note would you honestly say its a waste of money for me to buy a fuel rail at this point? money is always very important haha especially for me when i work strictly to try and improve my car. so would you say to put my money else where?
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Re: Any tuners wanna help me out??

Aside from what Blake has said, this thread is FULL of so much FAIL.
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If you wonder how much power your lude has. Dyno run is the only way 2 go :)
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