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Old 11-10-2010, 05:10 PM
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Ugh.. Anyone have any idea?

So lately i've been losing more and more hope in the lude.. Over the past couple months my baby has just gone down the drain.

Started noticing my car burning more and more oil. But that didn't really bother me cause its a car with 173k miles. Thats gonna happen.

But whats the excuse for my car completely dieing on me when ever my rpms reaching 0? I was driving home the other day and pushed the clutch in to turn and as soon as my rpms hit 0 the car just died. And from then on it kept doing it to me. Not to mention it feels like im not getting gas or somethign because while driving you can feel it slipping or something cause it keeps jerking while accelerating.

I took it for a drive today and at first it didn't do it. But after about 10 mins it started to do it again, but not every time this time. I took it up to autozone to let them hook it up to the computer and 3 codes came back.


1st Code: P0301
Definition: Cylinder number 1 misfire detected
Probable cause -
1. Vacum leak affecting on cylinder
2. Ignition system concern
3.Blocked/faulty fuel injector
4. Engine mechanical condition

Note: About a month and a half ago this code came up so I replaced all my plugs and cable and problem was solved. Now its back and idk why.

2nd Code: P0171
Definition: Fuel system too lean bank 1 (Cylinder number 1 denotes bank 1)
Probable cause -
1.Large vacuum leak
2. Fuel system concern
3. Ignition system concern
4. MAF sensor faulty
5. HO2S/AF ratior sensor fault

3rd Code: P0108
Definition: Sensor circuit high voltage
Probable cause -
1. Open or short circuit condition
2. Poor electrical connection
3. Faulty MAP sensor
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Re: Ugh.. Anyone have any idea?

dizzy might be going or need a new coil pack
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Re: Ugh.. Anyone have any idea?

You said its slipping by slipping you mean the rpms shoot up when you try to accelerate?

Then you say the car dies when the rpms reach zero. This will happen either a bad clutch or a low fluid level in the clutch fluid reservoir. I would also check your slave clyinder for leaks as well.

I read your other symptoms you need a major tune up, to include a top engine cleaning. You have so much carbon build up on one of the valves in cylinder one that the valve is not seating properly and is causing a clyinder misfire. Also I would recommend a back flush of your injectors, check around a local garage in your area might have these services. Becareful not to rip or tear one of the gaskets on the injectors. Also might want to buy a gasket replacement kit of all your injectors, try majestic honda for the parts.

Don't give up on that Lude just yet it has many many more miles it can go.
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Re: Ugh.. Anyone have any idea?

Sounds like a bad map sensor
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Re: Ugh.. Anyone have any idea?

Thanks for the replys guys. As for the clutch I put a new one in when I got the car and theres not even 10,000 miles on it yet. So idk if thats it. Im pretty sure even if I put the car in nuteral and it hit 0 rpms the car would still die.

But im not as mechanicly inclined as you are. I'd appreciate it if you could make a little list going from first to last one what/where I should start to solve these problems. And what I mean by slipping is when im accelerating the rpms will sometimes go up slowly but the car wont accelerate than it'll kick it roughly.
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Re: Ugh.. Anyone have any idea?

Did you properly break-in the clutch for the first 500 miles?

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What clutch did you install?

Also, for me the P0301 Misfire in Cyl1 code was solved by cleaning egr valve and ports.

My P0171 was solved with O2 sensor.

I've never had the other Code so idk about that one.
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Re: Ugh.. Anyone have any idea?

Sounds like it could be a big vacuum leak

And I would definitely do a tune up!

My distributor went bad in my old 4th gen (swapped a jdm H22 in it and used the old jdm dizzy that came with it) I was just driving and the car totally died on me.. Can't remember if the rpms went to zero though..

Deff do a tune up tho.. And then start with the little (cheap things first)

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Re: Ugh.. Anyone have any idea?

Well my brother came over this morning and we pulled all the spark plugs out. And the worse possible has happened. Got to the third spark plug and its just soaked in black oil. So now time for a compression test.. Anyone know where to get a decent H22 engine? Links would be great...
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Re: Ugh.. Anyone have any idea?

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Got to the third spark plug and its just soaked in black oil...
that just means that you prob need a new spark plug o-ring for your valve cover, not a new engine, lol...

and x2 on the new map sensor...
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that just means that you prob need a new spark plug o-ring for your valve cover, not a new engine, lol...
Yup, I would get the valve cover gasket set, which comes with the gasket and the spark plug o-rings and knock it all out. It could be the valve seal is bad and leaking oil onto the plug but it is a much better chance that is the o-ring that failed.

Just pointing something out here though, the misfire is in cyl1 and the spark plug is getting oil on it in cyl3. I don't see the oil on the plug causing any of his current CEL codes, odds are he is overdue for a tuneup and its a barrage of symptoms because of this.

I just went through some misfiring issues like a month ago and I had like 5 CEL codes all at once. I wound up replacing o2 sensors, plugs, wires, distributor cap and rotor, cleaned egr and ports, cleaned iacv since i had it off to do egr, valve adjustment, etc. Everytime I replaced something or preformed maintenance the car would run/drive better and one of the codes would go away but it since I let it back up it cost me a lot of $ all at once. One piece of advice I can give you is to stay on top of maintenance or it will pop up to bite you in the ass. If some of that stuff was replaced more recently I could have ruled it out some of it and not had to do all that at once.

So even if you find something simple that fixes the problem keep up with the other stuff so you don't end up in the same situation in a month.
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