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looking to buy my first honda.

I'm looking at a 2001 prelude sh with 25k miles. What should i be looking for to deter me from the sale?
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Re: looking to buy my first honda.

The fact that it has 25k miles lol. My SH had 160k miles on it when I got it, and around or a bit above 100k is not uncommon for cars of that year. I'd definitely check the carfax on it, and look for other warning signs of odometer rollback. (Google for info on how to check for it)


Other things to look for....

1. Check the oil and the coolant.
2. Try to check the ball joints. SH's have 4 lower and 2 upper ball joints in the front in total.
3. Test drive. It's going to be manual. If its auto, its not an SH. The shifting should be nice and smooth.
4. Look at the body lines. They should be nice and even, lining up well. Check in the door hinges, look for overspray that would tell you if bodywork has been done to it.
5. make sure things work. Operate the A/C, the Cruise control, the moonroof, the radio, etc.

Prelude specific problems
1. Check for a grind on 5th gear upshift. If you shift into 5th and it grinds, it means the 5th gear synchro is prolly shot or getting there. Not life threatening, but annoying and it will have to be fixed sometime.
2. Check out the pages located on this forum on how to spot an SH. That way you know if what you found is truly an SH.
3. Know that if you want to go aftermarket and customize it, an SH may or may not be the best option. SH's are a bit heavier than bases, but only a little and their powerplant pretty much makes up for it. But SH's are more expensive, a bit more complicated, and there is less aftermarket parts available for them, not to mention they have fewer plug and play engine swap choices.




If you have any more specific questions feel free to ask, if you want me to find you the pages I mentioned feel free to ask.
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Re: looking to buy my first honda.

okay correction 52k miles i reversed them.

2001 Honda Prelude SH. 52,000 original miles. Fully built block, ported and polished, Sleeved, SS valves, Darton Pistons, Eagle Rods, AEM fuel Rail, RC injectors, Full turbonetics 60-trim turbo, Turbonetics blow off valve, Skunk2 intake manifold and throttle body, 255 Walbro fuel pump, ground control coilovers, Slot-drilled front breaks.

I'm sure i am missing some stuff.
$7500 or best offer
Has 520 horse power no joke.

I have over 10,000 invested into it. Willing to take the loss. Need to sell.
Can text pics no problem

i asked a few questions and it has
tokiko struts with ground control coil overs
greddy e-manage tuner
act clutch with 9 pound flywheel

says it has clean title and stored in winter so no rust. he is selling because he wants to get a truck and will build another car later.
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Re: looking to buy my first honda.

for gauges it has gauges boost, oil temp, pyrometer... little conserned he doesn't have an a/f gauge but if the block is built..... also he said he is running 11lbs of boost. is that enough to make around 500hp? says full boost kicks in around 5.5k

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Re: looking to buy my first honda.

Well first off, it doesn't have 520 hp, or at least not whp. There is most certainly no way to get that N/A, and while I'm not as familiar with anything turbo I don't think you'll get 520hp out of the h22 powerplant even with turbo. Although someone with a turbo will have to respond and tell you if thats a reliable turbo setup, and what power its most likely making.

secondly, how do you know its sleeved? How do you know it has darton pistons? You don't. Unless he has receipts, and only if those receipts show not only the parts but the work to install them.

The guy I bought my car from lied his ass off, and I thought I got a pretty sweet ride, turned out to be all stock.



Also...turbo is not easy. Turbo is hard, and very, very unreliable if you do not do it correct. Be careful. My money says he built it incorrectly, beat on it, damaged something and is trying to get rid of it.


Although I could be wrong.





*Also, if he says turbo kicks in at around 5k rpms, he may be trying to take you for a sucker, trying to pawn off VTEC as having boost. Although its pretty easy to tell if its boosted just by looking under the hood....
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Re: looking to buy my first honda.

alright i asked him if he had receipts and he said unfortunately no because he never thought he was going to sell it after the build. I asked if he had anyway to show he bought the parts and had them installed. he said no he wishes he did. i asked who built it and he said trick engineering. he said he didnt do all the work. some was done when he bought it. he changed a few things and upgraded a few to give it a little more. i then asked for his full name and he said what do you need that for? i said well first and last because im goign to do a little research to cover my butt. I plan on contacting trick engineering and seeing if he infact had any work done over there.
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Re: looking to buy my first honda.

If its sleeved, tell him to up the boost to like 15 pounds and take u for a test drive. Lol.

A h22 can definitely make 500whp. It will be a pretty built motor, but it can make that much power. Definitely contact that shop and see what they say. And I've never heard of darton pistons. But idk everything either.
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Re: looking to buy my first honda.

I've heard of Darton pistons, apparently from what I've heard they are supposed to be the best.


And I had no idea a h22 could make 500whp. But then again I don't know much about turbo, I'm kinda just going off of N/A.
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Re: looking to buy my first honda.

dude if hes selling the car. look under the hood, drive it, and if it drives good and has 520 hp built turbo for $7500, buy that ****. to build a good turbo h22 with bran new parts u need about 12K
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Re: looking to buy my first honda.

Carfax all the way.

Compression tests.

Look for paint overspray to see if it's been painted over for some reason.

Look at the reflection down the sides to see if the body lines match up properly.

Obviously you can't open the engine to verify the parts he says he has in it like the postions and all, so if he can't prove they're in there otherwise, lowball the guy and come back a day or two later and up your offer a little.
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Re: looking to buy my first honda.

car fax checks out good. 5 owners, no crashes.
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Re: looking to buy my first honda.

Umm he could of crashed it and not reported it cuz his insurance would go up. Check the body anyway, and I've never heard of Darton pistons but Darton sleeves yes. 500hp on 11lbs uh no. 1lb of boost is around 7-10hp. So if his lude had 200hp 15% loss to the wheel that makes the total 170whp + the 77-110hp from boost is 247-280whp, nothing else for power gains except the port and polish and that does not give much power either. Test drive it, look under the hood, take pictures and post them here so we can better help you.
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Re: looking to buy my first honda.

Test drive it...Look at the guy closely; does he look shady? Buying a car isn't hard brah...
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I've never heard of Darton pistons but Darton sleeves yes.
Thats what I was thinking of. Sleeves not pistons.
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Re: looking to buy my first honda.

If his car is making that much power then ATTS is not functioning right, unless he removed it.
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Re: looking to buy my first honda.

The guy says he has the emange e01.. is this not the blue or ultimate unit? what is the e01?
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I've heard of Darton pistons, apparently from what I've heard they are supposed to be the best.


And I had no idea a h22 could make 500whp. But then again I don't know much about turbo, I'm kinda just going off of N/A.
Yeah there are 500whp h22's out there. There is a civic around here thats over 500 on an h2b swap. There are quite a few accords past 500whp on h22's. In JDMland there is even a 600+whp h22 accord.

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500hp on 11lbs uh no. 1lb of boost is around 7-10hp. So if his lude had 200hp 15% loss to the wheel that makes the total 170whp + the 77-110hp from boost is 247-280whp, nothing else for power gains except the port and polish and that does not give much power either. Test drive it, look under the hood, take pictures and post them here so we can better help you.
Exactly what i was thinking, for 500whp you need 22-24lbs of boost on a fully built motor and head. 11lbs you'd be around 300ish but you have to build an h22 block to handle boost more then 6-8lbs (even at those low numbers they arn't very reliable) so figure with work done and 11lbs of boost you are around 350-375 as a extreme max.

It sounds to me that dude bought an unfinished project from someone else and then paid a shop to finish it. He isn't happy with either what he had to pay, the end result, or knows nothing about cars and is assuming the hp number from the knowledge he got from F&F.

Plus who the hell wants a 500+ hp fwd car. To me its stupid, you can't daily it, 1st and 2nd gear are useless, its going to handle like **** from understeering, and its unreliable. Especially if you didn't do the work yourself you know really nothing about the build/wiring/tune/etc so if something breaks you are up **** creek guessing alot of the time.
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