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Old 10-18-2010, 11:29 AM
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Cruise Control Delete

hey there, so I decided I don't want my cruise control anymore, and took out the actuator yesterday, along with the attached bracket, canister, etc.

My question is, can I remove the "purge control solenoid valve"? and what other cruise control components can I remove without getting an engine code?

I see another tank/canister that the solenoid feeds to, and a switch on the firewall, and there is something cruise related under the dash as well I believe, but I can't seem to find any exploded diagram with the details I need.

If someone helps me locate all my cruise control components, I'll write up a proper [with pictures] tutorial on how to remove the cruise control entirely, since there isn't any detailed guide online.

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Re: Cruise Control Delete

go ahead and delete literally everything connected to the CC. the only thing you gotta do is cap off the vac line on the IM w/ a nipple. nothing on the CC is hooked to the ECU, so you'll never throw a CEL by deleting CC.
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Re: Cruise Control Delete

thanks for the response, I went ahead and took off the solenoid and the switch, leaving a canister with two hose attachments [one used; runs to driver side]. Not sure what that canister does, but I capped off the attachment I am not using.

New problem though, I capped the hole in the firewall, but not before I dropped a smaller cap into the firewall.... grrrr. Any ideas how to get to it? I never had this problem before, have no idea how to get into the firewall. I know the rattling is gonna drive me mad, please help

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Hmm, did you try using one of those claw pickup tools?
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Or a magnet...otherwise have fun ripping apart your dash. Chances are you'll never hear it though.
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Or a magnet...otherwise have fun ripping apart your dash. Chances are you'll never hear it though.
Hah yea they have the pickup tools that contain either a screw on magnet or claw with the led light. Ripping apart the dash to get to anything sounds like one of the worst jobs when working on a car lol.
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Hah yea they have the pickup tools that contain either a screw on magnet or claw with the led light. Ripping apart the dash to get to anything sounds like one of the worst jobs when working on a car lol.
I would take a job taking out and dropping in an engine over ripping apart a dash any day.
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Re: Cruise Control Delete

yea not looking forward to that dash removal... I cant hear it at all, but dam that im getting it out. Been removing my bs alarm components forever, so why not...

cant get a pickup tool in the slot it fell into, tried and broke mine. took out the carpet and most of the pedal section where it looks like it fell, then the washer arm and part of the plastic strip, no access from either spot

and the cruise... still trying to figure out what the tank on the firewall is doing, the hose wraps under the driver side. in the control system schematic I have from the honda store, it is pictured, but not numbered or identified. the hose [and what it feeds to] i left on is the same, its in the pic but not described. not that i don't believe twoke entirely, but i just don't want to rip out something not cruise control related

ill take pics tomorrow if i can. I have read all the older cruise delete posts but without pics I can't really understand the whole system routing, not trying to overpost or whatnot

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Re: Cruise Control Delete

The only things I can find on Mitchell is the Actuator Assembly [on firewall] and Cruise Control Unit, [behind middle of dash.]

Everything else is wires and hoses for the most part.
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Re: Cruise Control Delete

cool definitely got the actuator out, [big round thing with cable coming out]. but whats this cruise control unit? I have a read out of all the part numbers and designations, can't find that anywhere on the "official" honda sheet. is it in the engine bay or inside dash? I did find another diy which gets more detailed [and goes underneath car; have to remove splash guard], if it stops raining Ill take a look

and just fyi, I posted this exact thread starter on prelude online and honda tech as well, no responses at all. props to all of you, even if we are all "exotic" ricers.

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Re: Cruise Control Delete

Or luxury ricer, as preludes are a "luxury" coupe.

Anyway, Mitchell does not actually have a diagram of it, which is surprising. However they have a component location list.

And from the sounds of it, its inside the dash. There's also a main switch, the dash switch, brake and gas switches, and a speed sensor. If I can I'll do some more research and get back to you later, pressed for time right now.
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Re: Cruise Control Delete

lolz. it does have a lexus sc430 feel with no wing on it. take your time havik its wet out today, and I got laid off from the shop.

anyway thanks for the help twoke havik n all, I will sort this into a guide with pics someday... helps us semi perfectionists sleep at night.

PS is next.... my silly lude with 208k....

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Re: Cruise Control Delete

Well I plan on doing a CC, PS and AC delete in the future, so helping you is also helping me. Keep in mind as well that I have no hands on experience with this, having not done it myself, I'm just using all my resources and intelligence combined with the limited experience and hands on knowledge that I contribute here.

But I'll do what I can.




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I will do my best to help with the CC and PS, not sure I'm doing the ac anytime soon, I can't keep my windows from fogging without it right now. other than that id pull it, old ek didnt have ac or PS [or cruise], big difference with no belts [no resistance].

the ac is not like the power steering delete, in that you can just cut the belt and gain. hatch yanked me all around the parking lot after I cut it, took a sec to get used to. you remove compressor and lines [probly not in that order] and lose all that weight, more engine airways too. I never fully removed my ac components in the hatch, didnt know where how to dispose of the freon

not sure i can compare the PS prelude and no PS civic because of the manual rack on the ek. don't know how steering [and parking] will be with the looped lines. but it wasn't that bad on your arms with the ek, and should help our silly prelude idle problems.

ill get under car tomorrow and try to find out where this last bit of the CC is. from what you are saying, sounds like there is much more than my exploded diagram shows. dam near every honda diagram is missing something, or has an image and no id on it. saving the dash [and firewall cap rescue] for a dry day or garage.

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Re: Cruise Control Delete

hey i just took out the cc on my BB2 i know its not the same but it should be the same. here is where i got the how to from.

How do i remove A/C and cruise control
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Re: Cruise Control Delete

yea read that thread a while ago, just posted in it earlier today.. or yesterday..
thanks but looking for more detailed [pictures] and descriptions of all the cruise control components.. see the earlier posts in this thread

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To dispose of the freon (actually R134a refrigerant, but I digress) you would go to a shop that does A/C work and pay them to evacuate your system. Just make sure you specify that you want it evacuated and NOT recharged. Evacuation means taking out, rechaging is putting back in. My school has an HVAC building so I can get mine evacuated for free, which I plan on doing before leaving this place.
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Great decision! take it out = more power! u dont need it, lol
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Might as well, don't use it anyway...
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Re: Cruise Control Delete

threw a cel code today... not sure what it was, reset ecu and its gone.... strange. i took some pics of the cruise too, will get them up here asap. I'm having no luck identifying the big canister on the firewall, or where it goes to...

yea the a/c could go, but I get fogged in almost instantly on wet days. must have a weatherseal leak or something... or I should stop smoking

PS is now driving me mad, and my battery terminals are probly retired, can't get them on tight anymore so my idle drops to zero [no stalls tho]. plate is doa officially, gonna get a hayame or something billet.

and the cap looks like it fell below where the pedals are, should be able to take out the floormat and "insulator" to locate it. looks easier than the dash, and probly a better bet anyway. from what i can tell there are several tight spaces inside the firewall for things to hide from me...

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so this is the canister I can't id, you can see its attached to firewall left side of itm. the one hose I capped off fed from the switch or solenoid. and this is where the honda diagrams fail, no id for this tank or the hoses and other component[s] it feeds to. pretty sure this does nothing now, but it would be nice to know for sure.

this is the cap i used for the firewall hole [cruise cable]. the original plaug attached to the cruise cable just unscrews like regular, then pops out. you shouldn't need to bend or cut the cable at all to get it off the pedal, just line up black ring thingie with the slot and out she goes. MAKE SURE to cap the hole from engine bay side, so you don't pull an irishman like i did and drop it into the firewall.



you can buy that silver cap in a pack at autozone, the brand name is "help!", right next to master cylinder caps and vacuum plugs. I used dorman black vacuum plugs, but spectre makes some for you folks who need some color pizazz.

and as you can see no actuator, lots more airflow, and room for my catch can! I used two zip ties to bundle the unused connectors up as well



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still got an intermittent cel, gonna get off my arse and check that out today. hope its not related to the cc delete, ill post up if it is. still haven't removed that canister or what it feeds to yet, been busy or lazy. and i still can't find the runaway cap for the life of me. maybe ill just pretend it fell out the car already.

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I think that canister is only there to hold vacuum. I will check the service manual tomorrow for ya.
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cool any help is appreciated. this isnt the canister right underneath the actuator, its the tank bolted to the firewall. actually has two lines coming off it, one driver side, another passenger side. both are going underneath the car

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Hmm, if it's not the vacuum tank, then maybe the evap control canister? More pics would help a lot.
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thanks for the response, I went ahead and took off the solenoid and the switch, leaving a canister with two hose attachments [one used; runs to driver side]. Not sure what that canister does, but I capped off the attachment I am not using.

New problem though, I capped the hole in the firewall, but not before I dropped a smaller cap into the firewall.... grrrr. Any ideas how to get to it? I never had this problem before, have no idea how to get into the firewall. I know the rattling is gonna drive me mad, please help

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Old 10-25-2010, 01:01 PM
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Re: Cruise Control Delete

yea I think its evap, kinda waiting for the cel to come back on, me being me I had to get rid of it the other day driving me crazy. I might reinstall the solenoid and switch, but with no hoses, and have them plugged up again. depends if its the evap or purge cel thats been coming on after long drives

the phantom cap is either in the frame underneath the dashboard insulator [I have to take apart the whole dash...], or in another channel in the firewall [lost forever]. not having too much luck with my mitts

finally got to the fitv tho, I know thats been covered elsewhere but helped my idle a bit screwing down the plunger. cam seal and fuel relay have become my main probs, ill get to taking more up close pics of the cruise after i get those in

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Re: Cruise Control Delete

I think to adjust the plunger you screw it all the way in and back it out a quarter turn.

Could be the fitv or iacv, I forget.
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Re: Cruise Control Delete

havik yea its the fitv thats adjustable, the iacv just can be cleaned. but yea quarter turn might be best, gonna redo mine, think i backed it off too much.

SO I fixed the problem that caused the evap code, P0441. Turns out im an idiot, and removed two of the components involved with the evap system. and to top it off, when i hooked them back up, i did that wrong too. follow the vacuum diagram on the inside of the hood and match up the three way valve to the picture directionality wise, or you will throw the 441 code.

I used fuel emissions rated hoses to replace the old honda ones. Clamps needed to be swapped out as well, hose is dif size. viper you are correct the tank in question is the EVAP control canister, ai found an autozone schematic which runs through the entire evap system [will post up]

Basically all you should do to remove the cruise control, is to remove the actuator which includes the cable running to accelerator pedal. after that just leave it alone. you will need to plug the firewall and cap the itm, but thats it really. leave the purge solenoid attached and plugged in, as the ecu DEF sees that and the switch. and don't mess with the hose routing unless you want fresh tube.

I also removed the cruise button on the roof control panel, and yanked the steering wheel module with cruise buttons on it. got the new fuel relay in as well, looking much better. still need to find godforsaken cap, but nearly there. ics and valve lash are next.

I will try to repost this in order with pictures tomorrow, now that i have the delete down. think im gonna yank the ac and ps as well, so ill be back havik and all. thanks for the help, havik hit me up when you do your deletes could use more info on the ps and ac. Peez
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