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Anybody know laws on exhaust???

i just got pulled over by a cop who wanted to be a douche. he claimed my car is too loud and i need to have it inspected by the dmv and have them say if its street legal or not. i was only driving in 3rd at 2000rpm so i know it wasnt loud he just saw my exhaust and wanted to pull me over. I have a 98 lude with headers, highflow cat, megan racing cat back exhaust. is everything legal as long as i dont have a test pipe? my exhaust also came with a removable silencer that goes in my muffler tip which makes the exhaust technically only be 2 inches. Do you think i should throw the stock headers on? or should i be fine with just putting in the silencer? also does anybody know if this test is strictly sound? or are they going to check the emissions as well. any help is good help thanks
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i just got pulled over by a cop who wanted to be a douche. he claimed my car is too loud and i need to have it inspected by the dmv and have them say if its street legal or not. i was only driving in 3rd at 2000rpm so i know it wasnt loud he just saw my exhaust and wanted to pull me over.if there are decible laws, a modified exhaust is probable cause enough to pull you over and make you get an inspection... provided that is the law I have a 98 lude with headers, highflow cat, megan racing cat back exhaust. is everything legal as long as i dont have a test pipe? it's likely all leagal. you'd have to check your state and local laws most states have laws on decible limits for engine/exhaust noise only. the states with emissions laws will require a cat. many times people get away with high flows, it just depends on how well your engine is really operating and how strict the laws are my exhaust also came with a removable silencer that goes in my muffler tip which makes the exhaust technically only be 2 inches. Do you think i should throw the stock headers on? a header doesn't effect your sound a whole lot. and IMO wouldn't help since most cops go off of the look of your exhaust aloneor should i be fine with just putting in the silencer? same as the previous questions suggestion. look alone can get you pulled over. however if they don't hear an obnoxious exhaust they probably won't look. and really, are you really worried about loosing an inch on your exhaust. are you pushing out that much power that you REQUIRE a 3 inch exhaustalso does anybody know if this test is strictly sound? or are they going to check the emissions as well. again it depends on your state and local laws. are you required to get yearly emissions tests? if not, its probably just soundany help is good help thanks
question for you, is it an actual ticket, or just like a warning ticket or what?

final suggestion: don't want po-po attention? get a stock or stock looking exhaust. unless that is you really require a 3" exhaust.
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ok thanks that helped. and the silencer looks weird just thought come the inspection throw it on to reduce the noise
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i say unless you live in a small town where that cop will see you again. F*** him and just forget it.
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in new york they pull us over just for having an aftermarket exhaust even if it sounds just as loud as stock. every where is different. cops here use aftermarket exhaust as a reason to pull you over and check your car for weapons and drugs
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i just got pulled over by a cop who wanted to be a douche. he claimed my car is too loud and i need to have it inspected by the dmv and have them say if its street legal or not. i was only driving in 3rd at 2000rpm so i know it wasnt loud he just saw my exhaust and wanted to pull me over. I have a 98 lude with headers, highflow cat, megan racing cat back exhaust. is everything legal as long as i dont have a test pipe? my exhaust also came with a removable silencer that goes in my muffler tip which makes the exhaust technically only be 2 inches. Do you think i should throw the stock headers on? or should i be fine with just putting in the silencer? also does anybody know if this test is strictly sound? or are they going to check the emissions as well. any help is good help thanks
I don't know about CT, but here in VA if you have a modified exhuast system anotherwords not stock you can be ticketed. Tell you the truth it might be a locality like City ordinance really. First I would look up the CT state code on cars exhuast or call the state and ask the state law on the subject then call the city to see if there is a city ordinance on motor vehicle exhaust systems. Because I know Roanoke, VA has a city ordinance if an officer notices a disturbing exhaust system like a ("fart can"). He can follow you car and see that it was not the exhaust meant for the car and he has enough to pull you over and ticket you. According to state law and city ordinance.

Example: Pocket Bikes, here in Virginia the state law doesn't have a helmet law, but if you licence one and drive it in Roanoke, VA you must wear a helmet or you will be pulled over and given a ticket.

*This law might have changed since I checked it last. About 5 years ago*
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question for you, is it an actual ticket, or just like a warning ticket or what?

final suggestion: don't want po-po attention? get a stock or stock looking exhaust. unless that is you really require a 3" exhaust.
Even the decible law doesn't come into play here in Roanoke, VA problem here is we have too many punk teenagers that street race and this is why you can get a ticket for having a nice exhuast system, this is also why I went back stock muffler.

This is also why, drug dealers that have a hobby of these type cars, like to race and the cops associate the racing with the modified cars and the drugs this gives them probable case to search the vehicles.

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Yea...in NY we got retards behind bridge walls on the highway, behind bushes n they even blend in with other parked cars with their lights off waiting for you to pass and then BAM their heads turn on and tag ur ass down!!!

So basically if you can bolt on your stock if you still have to let the DMV see and then go home to swap it back to ur aftermarket.

I get pulled over constantly but luckily I have a Sergeant card which mostly gets me out of the worst case!!!

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Most areas have the ordinances that restrict sound decibals from an after market exhaust to 90dB. With the setup you have now you should not have a problem with that, also the fact that you have a cat on the exhaust is good because at inspection thew first thing the look for is just that. You have nothing to worry about. While you are at inspection make sure the annotate that everything is within regs so the next time the fuzz try to hassle you, you have documentation to inlightn them.
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in nh youll get pulled over even if the exhaust is legal they only pull you over cuz face it you got a honda cops dnt like hondas at all
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Yea...in NY we got retards behind bridge walls on the highway, behind bushes n they even blend in with other parked cars with their lights off waiting for you to pass and then BAM their heads turn on and tag ur ass down!!!
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in nh youll get pulled over even if the exhaust is legal they only pull you over cuz face it you got a honda cops dnt like hondas at all
if these are the attitudes you guys have when you get pulled over, it's no surprise why you get pulled over. the cops remember you and they tell all their buddies to pick on you. a little respect goes a long way. they're just doing their job.
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if these are the attitudes you guys have when you get pulled over, it's no surprise why you get pulled over. the cops remember you and they tell all their buddies to pick on you. a little respect goes a long way. they're just doing their job.
But these are the teenage punks I was talking about,,, I got pulled for my N1 style piece of crap fart can that the previous owner had put on the car, it was passing inspection so I didn't bother with it until it became an issue. Anyhow I was on my way to work at 5:30 am in the morning. I pulled up to the light stopped at the red light and when green I just started to pull off from the light and bam blue lights, I drove down until I had a safe spot for us to pull off the road. He came up to the car and asked if I knew why he pulled me over I told him I had no idea. He said I noticed your exhaust pipe and then heard it when you started accelerating. I told him yes I know I hate this exhaust and I explained I just had it inspected and it passed but I told him as soon as I had the money to replace it, it was coming off. Then he noticed that I had and Operation Iraqi Freedom Veteran decal in the back window he asked if that was my sticker or the previous owner, I told him it was mine and he said we don't like harassing our veterans, I told him nonsence you just doing your job. He said at that time in the morning and that kind of exhaust he was sure he would get a DUI conviction. I told him sorry to spoil that for you we both had a good laugh about that one.

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or do what i do! straight pipe exhaust with stock muffler...my cars very loud but i dont get pulled over
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question for you, is it an actual ticket, or just like a warning ticket or what?

final suggestion: don't want po-po attention? get a stock or stock looking exhaust. unless that is you really require a 3" exhaust.
I have the megan racing cat-back, and its not 3".

No laws in my area, my car is loud when I get on it and cops dont give a crap as long as tires arent squealing and I am not vtec'in everywhere.
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in new york they pull us over just for having an aftermarket exhaust even if it sounds just as loud as stock. every where is different. cops here use aftermarket exhaust as a reason to pull you over and check your car for weapons and drugs
Your semi right. But having an aftermarket exhaust doesnt give them probable cause to search your car. If theyre talking to u, and see a dutch, or clear eyes or smell bud, thats when they get to rifle away at your stuff.
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if these are the attitudes you guys have when you get pulled over, it's no surprise why you get pulled over. the cops remember you and they tell all their buddies to pick on you. a little respect goes a long way. they're just doing their job.
Maybe where u are its true. But out here it doesnt matter, honda, WRX, jetta, EVO. Theres an epidemic of douchebag cops. Boy, the stories i could tell you.
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Additional things to think about:
Most states and cities have sound ordinance, so if your exhaust puts out more Db than the ordinance allows it is a citation (keep in mind that littering is also a citation. Read:not a big deal.)
Additionally you should look into what probable cause REALLY is. Just because a drug dealer raced in a similar car that does NOT provide probable cause. HOWEVER, coppers WILL use tricks like (In Tucson they are called "felony tailights") 1)your car fits a profile that they want to search 2) they find an excuse (your taillight was out) 3) during the process they say "and now I'm going to search your car..." If you dont object in Arizona, it is tacit permission.
So when you get pulled over, do not EVER volunteer info to a cop. Their job is to catch you, not to help you. Ask a cop out of uniform.

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i just got pulled over by a cop who wanted to be a douche. he claimed my car is too loud and i need to have it inspected by the dmv and have them say if its street legal or not. i was only driving in 3rd at 2000rpm so i know it wasnt loud he just saw my exhaust and wanted to pull me over. I have a 98 lude with headers, highflow cat, megan racing cat back exhaust. is everything legal as long as i dont have a test pipe? my exhaust also came with a removable silencer that goes in my muffler tip which makes the exhaust technically only be 2 inches. Do you think i should throw the stock headers on? or should i be fine with just putting in the silencer? also does anybody know if this test is strictly sound? or are they going to check the emissions as well. any help is good help thanks
I also live in CT and the same exact thing happened to me after I got pulled over in Milford, but it was with my 92 Accord with pretty much the same setup you have. I had to go to DMV and get it inspected and I knew it wouldn't pass cause that car was loud. I didn't have a silencer or the stock exhaust to put on.

What I did was cut a flange out of some sheet metal in the shape of the area between where the center pipe meets the tailpipe. I drilled two holes where the bolts go through and drilled a small hole in the middle (a hole about the size of a quarter) then I shoved a bunch of steel wool into the centerpipe side of the flange, slid the flange with the small hole in between the two exhaust pipes and bolted it back together. Started it up and it was 75% quieter. Perfect!

Drove to DMV to get it inspected. I went inside to find an inspector and when I found him I told him that at the time the cop stopped me, I had a big hole in the exhaust system and it was noisy thats why he gave me the ticket. But I told him I fixed it and it was better now. He says "lets go out and listen to it." As we walk towards the car he asks "Is that the car right there?" I say yeah. Then the Mother F**ker says "Well I can tell from here that your tints are too dark!" (I was like WTF!!!!!. Im not even here for that, the cop didn't even bust my balls about them) So he listens to the exhaust, he just made me rev it up a few times(I only went to like 2500 rpm's lol) and he says "yeah that's not loud at all now......but I'm gonna have to write you a ticket for your tints." (my ft windows were legal 35%, and the back window can be as dark as you please, think it was 15% but the rear side windows were too dark 20 or 25% i forget.) but I just paid over $100 like 4 months earlier to get them done. I argued with the guy for over 10 min about how come my moms minivan can have darker windows than my car and thats from the factory. Then I started pointing at all these other SUVs in the parking lot with dark back side windows. He ended up saying I should write a letter to some congressman or something but he was still giving me the ticket. I said "if I take them off right now are you still gonna give me one?" He said "No, not if you do it right now." I got a razor blade out of my car and made huge slices in all 4 of the rear window tints. Once the guy saw me ruin the tint on the last window he tore up the ticket and walked back inside. I thought that was total BS! I drove back home with no tickets but with F'd up tints and disconnected the tail pipe again and removed my custom flange and pulled out the steel wool, and put it back together. Ahh back to normal. still drive it loud and never been pulled over since.

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As far as tint goes, many states require the officer (or inspector) to actually check the tint with a special light

Similarly with exhaust, many states require the use of a decibel meter. Other's allow the officer to issue an inspection ticket, and the inspector will have to measure it
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But these are the teenage punks I was talking about,,, I got pulled for my N1 style piece of crap fart can that the previous owner had put on the car, it was passing inspection so I didn't bother with it until it became an issue. Anyhow I was on my way to work at 5:30 am in the morning. I pulled up to the light stopped at the red light and when green I just started to pull off from the light and bam blue lights, I drove down until I had a safe spot for us to pull off the road. He came up to the car and asked if I knew why he pulled me over I told him I had no idea. He said I noticed your exhaust pipe and then heard it when you started accelerating. I told him yes I know I hate this exhaust and I explained I just had it inspected and it passed but I told him as soon as I had the money to replace it, it was coming off. Then he noticed that I had and Operation Iraqi Freedom Veteran decal in the back window he asked if that was my sticker or the previous owner, I told him it was mine and he said we don't like harassing our veterans, I told him nonsence you just doing your job. He said at that time in the morning and that kind of exhaust he was sure he would get a DUI conviction. I told him sorry to spoil that for you we both had a good laugh about that one.

If your all defensive right at the start your just digging a hole.
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Maybe where u are its true. But out here it doesnt matter, honda, WRX, jetta, EVO. Theres an epidemic of douchebag cops. Boy, the stories i could tell you.
hmm, funny you mention the cars punk kids love to drive. i see punk kids in imports like that with exhausts pulled over all the time where i love. its a fact, most teens are rebelous. they push the bounds to see how much they can get away with. its about questioning authority. i was taught to question authority, much like kids are tought these days. but there is a difference, i do it respectfully. kids these days aren't taught respect. many of the younger import drivers i hang out with are very respectful actually. and they never complain about douchey cops, getting tickets, or being harassed. i've been to several import shows from the age of 15-25. there is a pattern. the same kids that get tickets and get harassed at those car shows are the same ones who ruin it for everyone and create those stereotypes. its the same kids who do burnouts leaving the show, who get busted for racing right around the corner, the idiots who get into car wrecks because of acting stupid right after the meets. and what is ONE thing all these kids have in common.... modified, loud exhausts. no way am i saying all kids with loud exhausts drive like idiots and are disrespectful. but its an extremely common theme.
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