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Old 09-09-2010, 04:50 PM
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i need new rings in my engine. i called a local mechanic (Simmons automotive) and he said he couldn't rebuild it but he could pull it out and send it to another shop and get it rebuilt and then drop it back in for around $1,000. he gave me a phone number so i called it. this place (component machine inc.) said they would rebuild it for about $700 which i think sounds sketchy but they wouldn't pull it out or drop it back in, so i told them Simmons will do that. what do you guys think about the prices? another problem i can think of is if one of them ****s up my motor they will blame it on the other company then the other will do the same and i will get ****ed over.
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Re: need motor rebuild

I would suggest Golden Eagle Engine Services : Golden Eagle Manufacturing shipping is going to suck but, quality build and are used to dealing with FRM cylinder walls.
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Re: need motor rebuild

FixIt makes a good point (as he usually does). You need to find out if this shop, Component Machine or whatever it is, is familiar with working with FRM cylinder sleeves. You need to go talk to them IN PERSON, and anything at all seems questionable, just walk the **** away. I know when I go to get my sleeves honed, I will be asking a lot of questions and doing a lot of research. If I can't find anyone somewhat local, GE will probably be getting my business since they do amazing work.
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i need new rings in my engine. i called a local mechanic (Simmons automotive) and he said he couldn't rebuild it but he could pull it out and send it to another shop and get it rebuilt and then drop it back in for around $1,000. he gave me a phone number so i called it. this place (component machine inc.) said they would rebuild it for about $700 which i think sounds sketchy but they wouldn't pull it out or drop it back in, so i told them Simmons will do that. what do you guys think about the prices? another problem i can think of is if one of them ****s up my motor they will blame it on the other company then the other will do the same and i will get ****ed over.
Sounds more like just a re ring job, here is the problem with that unless they use Factory HONDA rings, you'll be back where you started in less than 4 months I'll bet you. Read up on honda motors they have this stuff called FRM (fiber reinforced metal) in the sleeves where the rods and pistons go, now I have heard if you use anything but Honda Factory ring sets the FRM sleeves will tear the heck out of aftermarket rings and you'll need another ring job right away.

How sure are you that you have blow by your rings? Are you sure its not just a valve adjustment that you need or maybe the valve guide seals need replacing.

Any shop you take the car to will try to sell you on the most exspensive service there is. Blame that on the economy, I would be really sure you need to replace the rings before you just go and have the job done. As for just re ringing it I doubt they are going to pull the motor, they may pull the head and just pull the oil pan if anything needs to be done in the lower end.

Where is your mileage at, that alone should tell you if you need a ring job or not.

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What mileage would you hit before you did a ring job Rob?
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Re: need motor rebuild

around 146,000 total, i bought it from my uncle and he doesn't know how many since the rebuild. that also helped me a huge deal because when he got it rebuilt last year he didn't ask them to use Honda rings so they probably gave him ****ty ones. if you wouldn't have told me that i would have done the same thing.
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Well Honda motors are built so well, my dad's old 85 CRX had around 400,000 when we tore off the head to get some valves fixed as it threw a timing belt I believe it was going to be its three one. Anyhow we looked down into the cylinders and could still seeing the honing marks from when it was manufactured. So not too much wear on the bottom end.
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Re: need motor rebuild

Well I was thinking about doing the rings when I get my motor out of my car, considering my compression was as low as 155 psi on cylinder 1. I'll try a valve adjustment and see if that helps.
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