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Experiencing bogging during acceleration

Anyone on this forum experience bogging after a shift under normal acceleration? My car is 100% bone stock with about 109k miles and has a recent 100k tune up (timing belt, balance shaft belt, water pump, and both accessory belts replaced). The bogging happens pretty much right after I shift from 1st to 2nd to 3rd. 4th and 5th does not bog. The bogging last for about 1 sec and it is around 2k - 3.5k rpm's. Everything else on the car is pretty much original. Any ideas what is causing the bogging? Thanks.
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Re: Experiencing bogging during acceleration

I forgot to mention I also replaced spark plugs, wires and cap in addition to brake rotors and pads on all 4 corners.
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Re: Experiencing bogging during acceleration

wow sounds about the same maintenance that I have recently done to include complete exhaust replacement even O2 sensors. My problem was I replaced the header and down pipe first, left the cat and all the way back some type of cat back with a N1 style muffler. Anyhow in swapping out the header. I had to cut a couple bolts on the cat, so when a finally got thru the last bolt the cat swung down and banged against the driveway, well I didn't think much of it but about a year later, all that stuff that got knocked around in the cat just decided to make its way to the rear of the cat and clog that d@mn thing. Anyhow Magnaflo hi flo and replaced the cat back to stock from Majestic honda, even new chrome tips looks so nice and sounds so much better. Now the intake makes all the noise.

Well anyways to make a point of all this, I was experiencing a huge bogging problem. It was the cat, not sure its this in your case or not. Maybe some fuel issues like maybe some clogged injectors, maybe a clogged EGR valve,

I have about 164K on mine now and it is now sort of jumpy like running smooth one minute and kind of jerky the next. I was just thinking it was the humidity and teh heat. But now I'm curious.
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Re: Experiencing bogging during acceleration

My next step is to change out the fuel filter, clean the EGR and do the seafoam thing to see if it helps. I think the cats are OK since I am not seeing a CEL for O2. I suppose I could also take it to a HONDA dealer and have them diagnose the problem which will cost some $$.
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Re: Experiencing bogging during acceleration

if your using low octane gasoline try using supreme or add octane booster to see what happens.
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Re: Experiencing bogging during acceleration

id do the seafoam treatment first... solved my problem
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Re: Experiencing bogging during acceleration

I can vouch for seafoam, did that along with literally the same maintenance you did when I bought my 4th gen, actually made a huge difference in power, plus actually got me to pass emissions ;)

On a side note, you can have a cat that is GOING bad, enough to bog but still not trip a cel.
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Re: Experiencing bogging during acceleration

What is the typical life of a cat? I don't want to change the cat if it is not bad. How can you tell if the cat is going bad?
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Re: Experiencing bogging during acceleration

just hollow the cat out itll be fine.

if i were you id replace the o2 sensor and clean out the egr
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Re: Experiencing bogging during acceleration

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I can vouch for seafoam, did that along with literally the same maintenance you did when I bought my 4th gen, actually made a huge difference in power, plus actually got me to pass emissions ;)

On a side note, you can have a cat that is GOING bad, enough to bog but still not trip a cel.
That is true about the CAT cause mine was almost clogged and I never got a code.
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Re: Experiencing bogging during acceleration

if you think its your cat do a vacuum test at idle and during acceleration it should be around 18-21psi
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Re: Experiencing bogging during acceleration

I changed the shocks on my lude and it solved my problem... might wanna look into that.
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Re: Experiencing bogging during acceleration

I recently had pretty much the same bogging problem..then I noticed that one of the vacuum lines on the intake manifold had come off..I'd first check that out..that helpped out a bit but it wasn't perfect so I changed the spark plugs and upgraded to NGK iridium IX's and the problem is completely gone now..my guess is that there might be a vacuum hose loose or off or the spark plugs even though you said you just changed them might be fouled or not firing correctly.
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I'm beginning to wonder if mine isn't due to not having done this yet..

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Re: Experiencing bogging during acceleration

I have the same problem till now, even the jhonda dealers couldnt diagnose the problem..I did a few research and I think its sumthing electrical causing the bogging. It can be the dizzy or the main relay which is under the dash.
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Re: Experiencing bogging during acceleration

Thanks for all the good recommendations. My bogging or hesitation is right after a shift from 1st to 2nd and 3rd and it is about 1 sec in duration and then the car picks up and goes. Also, this is a intermitten issue it does not do it all the time. I don't have any CEL's and the car runs perfectly otherwise.
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Re: Experiencing bogging during acceleration

Mine does the same on the 1st,2nd and 3rd..If you floor your accelerator, does it suddenly accelerates out of the bogging condition? I checked my catalyctic converter, my o2 sensors and everythin seemed to be fine.check your Cat converter, just give it a hard knock with your Hand (when its cold obviously) and look out for rattling noise, and if there is rattling in there, ur cat is stuffed. well, i even cleaned out my injectors and it was still bogging. The best thing to do is to save some money, out in a new dizzy and get a new main relay, im gonna do the same in a coouple of days...
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Re: Experiencing bogging during acceleration

Yes, the car will accelerate out of the bog when the gas pedal is pressed harder. I will check the cat and see if it rattles. I don't know what a "dizzy" and "main relay" is? Can you please explain?
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Re: Experiencing bogging during acceleration

Replace cat
Clean EGr valve ANNNDD Ports.
Replace fuel filter
Seafoam it

If nothing else works, get used to it. Hondas don't make much power under 3k rpm. Or so I've been told.
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Yes, the car will accelerate out of the bog when the gas pedal is pressed harder. I will check the cat and see if it rattles. I don't know what a "dizzy" and "main relay" is? Can you please explain?
Dizzy = distributor
Main relay = big ass relay under the steering column. Brown. Prolly nothing to do with your problem. Also I think thats a 4th gen thing.
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Re: Experiencing bogging during acceleration

Yea, thats right, the main relay may not seem much of an issue but if their stuffed, they can cause weird problems, and the distributor can cause heaps of problems. Normally, the rotor or the brushes on it wear out. Well, to me, i think its totally electric, I have spent heaps on my 4th gen regarding this problem..The last would be the main relay and the dizzy as thats the only 2 left!..dizzies are pricey, but main relays are not too bad, its an easy DIY. I will let you know once i have changed mine, but for me, i guess its the dizzy coz they wear out and you have to change them sooner or rather..
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