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Old 08-07-2010, 12:24 PM
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High guys.

I have a 2000 type SH

I did the evil 'lose the timing belt at seventy mph' awhile ago. I now have some $ to fix it. A few questions come to mind

1. At that speed what is the probability of just doing the head/valves and not needing pistons?

2. If engine is the route is there a difference between the h22a4 for the type sh vs the s? I was told, by one of the JDM sellers, that there was a big difference (to the tune of $1500). That is the first I had heard that there was a difference in the actual engine vs how it was set up w/ the ATTS and basic factory tuning.

3. Who in SoCal is fair to deal with re. doing the work?

Thanks, I have been checking in and reading over the years but this is the first time I have needed help so I appreciate the input.
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Re: wanting to fact check

type s engine has different intake, cams, compression ratio, and a few other things different. and it wont be a h22a4. itll just be a h22a. if someone sells you a "type s" engine and the stamp on the block says H22A4, you just got jipped. but yes there are major differences in the engine itself, and im sure someone else will chime in on everything i didnt say.
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type s has higher compression 11:1 opposed to 10:1 on the h22a4, differant cams, intake, exhaust, the VC is red, throttle body is larger, and i forget what else. type s ludes came with ATTS. so it should all work out fine. plus if you get the stock ecu with it you can just switch it out
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If you have a SH then your going to have to go with the Type S, like they said it came with ATTS. If you have a base your going to be going with the SiR S-spec H22, pretty much the same thing except instead of ATTS the S-spec came with a LSD, thus meaning you won't have problems with the block.
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I did the evil 'lose the timing belt at seventy mph' awhile ago. I now have some $ to fix it. A few questions come to mind

1. At that speed what is the probability of just doing the head/valves and not needing pistons?
Completely random. Depends more on how long the engine continued turning after the belt broke.
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If you have a SH then your going to have to go with the Type S, like they said it came with ATTS. If you have a base your going to be going with the SiR S-spec H22, pretty much the same thing except instead of ATTS the S-spec came with a LSD, thus meaning you won't have problems with the block.
Well, he doesnt HAVE to go with the Type S just because his car is a Type SH, my car was a Type SH, if you buy a swap from HMO, it will convert pretty easily.

Everything you said was good, I just want the guy to know he doesnt HAVE to keep atts when swapping.
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Re: wanting to fact check

But it makes more sense to do so, otherwise you're carrying around the extra weight for no benefit. It's kinda like having an Aston Martin DB9 in your garage and walking everywhere.

As for the question of whether or not the pistons would be buggered as well, that would depend more on engine rpm than speed, and as stated above, how long everything kept spinning after the belt broke.
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type s engine has different intake, cams, compression ratio, and a few other things different. and it wont be a h22a4. itll just be a h22a. if someone sells you a "type s" engine and the stamp on the block says H22A4, you just got jipped. but yes there are major differences in the engine itself, and im sure someone else will chime in on everything i didnt say.
Hi guys.

thanks for the input. I was confused as to the engine type. I have an SH with the ATTS and i want to keep that intact. I was confused as to which type of block I had. I thought that the H22a4 was the SH motor and that the H22a was the other one.

I am currently working on my 4runner v6 doing the heads. That is a huge can of worms to work on. once I am done i will start in on the 'lude. I will pull the head and take a look at the pistons. I have the feeling they took a beating as I popped the clutch a few times trying to get it to fire before it
dawned on me that I had lost the belt.

is there a more preferred shop to have do the work if I can't get to it? I am working five days a week on Catalina Island so have really limited amount time on the weekends. The pay isn't great but what a view.

I will have to get to this project because the 16 yr. old girl child of mine is starting to lean on me, as only a daughter can to her daddy, to get it fixed.

so I appreciate all of you guys input.

thanks

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if you find out the pistons are fine, do some snoopin around online and you might just be able to find a used complete head, ready to drop in.
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