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Old 06-20-2010, 10:51 PM
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Driveshaft troubles

Greetings all--

I haven't made a post in awhile, I've been reading and collecting knowledge and working on restoring my own completely broken lude.

Right now I'm trying to get the engine out so it can be rebuilt and I've run into a hiccup. I'm trying to get the transmission disconnected from the wheels but I'm having some issues with the driveshaft.

I've searched the forums quite extensively and the overwhelming advice is to "pop it out" which is what I've been trying to do by prying and pulling where my hand is at in the first pic.

When that failed I started trying to take the rotors off. Do those tiny little screws actually need to come out? One of them came out for me, but broke in half. And the other is completely and utterly stripped. Are there any alternatives to taking these screws out?

Thanks for your help!

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Old 06-21-2010, 11:54 AM
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Re: Driveshaft troubles

okay i see you have a little issue ,you need to get a manual for the future, i think there are some dyi stickies ,but i will walk you threw it ,here goes the screws that your trying to take out isn't going to help too much ,you need to loosen the big axle bolt they are very tight you need to make sure once it's loose to leave the nut some threads so that you don't damage the axle while taping out ,use some type of loosing lubricate ,then your going to need a good brake bar or impact gun with 27mm socket i believe is the size you can rent it along with bar ,once you have loosen the big nut then take out the the two strut bolts bolts that hold the spindle ,also its easier to remove the complete assembly so you need to take out the lower ball joint and the upper control arm ball joint ,your going to need ball joint tool rent it ,then once you have done taking the assembly out ,you need to get some flat ended pry bar and put it between the axle and the trans then try prying it apart sometimes they come out easy ,also make sure not to pull on the axles they will come apart on you ,also make sure you put a oil pan under the car some oil could come out ,i will leave the rest to you ,any more help just ask okay.keep up dates.
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Re: Driveshaft troubles

I needed a 36 mm socket, took me a few trips to Auto Zone before I got the right size lol. But I got a huge ass breaker bar and I can't get the damn thing out for the life of me!

I'm about to try a torque wrench but my concern is this...I've been trying it with the tire on so I have some type of resistance, otherwise the rotor just spins. Sometimes when I do it manually with the breaker bar the tire still spins and I'm afraid all that's gonna happen with the torque is make the tire spin. This is one tight ass nut!
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Re: Driveshaft troubles

have someone push the brake pedal while you try to loosen the axle nut. or shove a stick in there to hold the pedal down if you dont have someone. also, it looks like from the pic that you need to take a chisel and tap the dent of the axle nut out. it is dented in for safety so the bolt wont fall off.

after you loosen and remove the axle nut, you have to remove the bolt up top in the wheel well, there should be a cotter pin to remove first, then remove the 17mm bolt up there. remove the 4 ten mm bolts holdint the brake lines in. this will give you the necessary slack to pull the arm down once you remove the 17mm bolt up top. once that nut is removed up top you will need a separator tool i forgot what its called but it separates the arm from the shock. it is basically a shaft with a u shaped fork on the end. shove it in where you removed that 17mm bolt and hit it with a hammer to separate it.

below you will see a long bolt with a nut that holds the strut to the a arm. remove this with 2 17 mm tools. one to hold one side still, the other one to remove the nut. once you get the 17mm nut removed. push down on the rotor to relieve the pressure, you should be able to remove the long bolt with your free hand.

if you are removing the driver side axle, get in the car and turn the steering wheel all the way to the left. general rule of thumb is to turn the wheel the same direction of axle you want to remove.

once you have done this, you should be able to tap the axle out with a punch and work it out. dont pull on the axle to remove! you will dislocate the axle bearings and they are dam near impossible to return to normal.

once you have the axle shaft tapped throught the rotor and free of the rotor, get under the vehicle and tap the other side of the axle out of the differential housing of the trans. read this backwards to replace the axle. hope this helps man


oh ya, and dont use a torque wrench to remove those bolts, you will screw up your torque wrench, use the breaker bar if you dont have air.
this thing took about 10-12 minutes to change, but i had air tools and my brother to help he is the honda mad scientist.

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Re: Driveshaft troubles

Thanks for the ideas man! I already took the brake pads off...well and abs is gone and so is power steering so I can't really hit the brakes or move the wheel. Is that a major problem or can it supposedly be done even still?
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Re: Driveshaft troubles

So I did manage to get the axle nuts off....one side came off with a sawzall.

But I still can't get the axle out of the tranny.

I've been working at it from both sides. I noticed there's kind of a rubber-like seal (http://www.stuff-online.net/prelude/seal.jpg) and I'm wondering if that needs to be removed or anything, is that holding it in.

You can see how far I've gotten it out, a bit farther on the passenger side (www.stuff-online.net/prelude/other%20side.jpg) but what's the key to actually getting it all the way out?

Thanks!
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Re: Driveshaft troubles

Try hammering the back of the cv inner joint out away from the car. Brute force and ignorance is what worked for me.
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Re: Driveshaft troubles

if the axle is free of the hub it should be easy to pull out. mine was. if not try and knock it out with a hammer. also idk if u hav drained the tranny fluid but if u havnt u should.
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Re: Driveshaft troubles

at least on 4g you only need to drain the tranny if you are removing the right side. The left has two pieces and if your not pulling the intermidiate shaft on the left you dont need to drain.
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Re: Driveshaft troubles

Can we get away with calling these driveshafts? they do drive the wheels and it is a shaft, but they don't have universal joints but they do have CV joints. Similar I guess but I use the term half shafts.

Those things are a PITA.. good luck.


If I can remember correctly I left the rotors on I just used a big a$$ socket and turned that axle nut off, that is a huge biotch.. then I seperated the lower ball joints, then kind of pulled the wheel hub off the axle you'll have to turn the cv joint to wiggle it out. Once its clear, you'll be able to slide the axle/ half shaft/ driveshaft out. If you look on the drivers side you'll have extension that goes the rest of the way to the tranny, you'll have to pull that out as well I think its like two bolts that hold that on to the back side of the motor, now the passenger side its just the short shaft. Once you have those out your ready to take out the tranny, but I recommend taking the engine and tranny out as one, because you said you are taking out the motor as well. Its much easier to do when you have a cherry picker. Just don't forget to unplug all the wires and hoses, especially the O2 sensor wires they break very easily. Not that I would know anything about that :)

Good luck.

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