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Tips for stick shift driving

Hi everyone, I'm a new luder, just got my '99 Prelude, also my first stick shift car. I just have some questions about driving a stick shift. Does anyone know what rpm would be best to shift without the car bouncing or shaking?
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Re: Tips for stick shift driving

Letting out on the clutch when you first start moving, like in first gear, you wanna do right about 2k rpm. Once you get moving, shifting at 2.5k is more or less babying the car. You'll prolly want to shift at 3-4k rpm. Of course you can shift all the way up to 7k or above if you want.

Don't pop the clutch (let out too fast)
Don't ride the clutch (let out too slow)
Always work the clutch and the gas in equal amounts
Don't overuse 1st gear. !st gear is pretty much a "crawler" gear, use it for getting the car moving, after that 2nd is pretty usable for low speed driving, like around parking lots and making rolling stops and turns.

But there really isn't much I can teach you from here, working a manual is all about practice. There really isn't a single rpm to shift at, or a single gear to be in at a certain speed. It all depends on the situation. Soon you will learn to do shift based solely on sound and feel, which is where you want to be.

And shifting is pretty simple, if you're going too fast for the gear you're in, shift up. Too slow? Shift down. Simple enough.


Also make sure you practice on hills. That's the hardest part about driving stick, next to being calm and not getting nervous about shifting when you're around other people or other cars.


Just go out and drive, drive as much as you can. Soon you'll be able to drive stick just fine.
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Just wondering do you guys set it in first gear right after parking?
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Re: Tips for stick shift driving

yeah

and in addition to that, in 1st gear you might wanna rev up the gas to about 1500 rpm, then release the clutch till your fully engaged. ( releasing the clutch to get you starting in first gear is about one second long, dont slip the clutch to much or pop it up as it will cause your car to shake or stall / start / stall.

after that I'd say to shift about 3.5K or 4K if you want good accel, anyway you'll get used to it and in no time you'll know what rpm to shift at

boy I remember when I first drove my first stick shift, 99 accord, such good times

edit : yep, if you're parked on a flat surface, set it in 1st gear.
if you're parked in a slope facing downwards, reverse gear, always the inverse gear that the car is going to, so that if your E-brake fails, your car won't roll away !
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Nope, I leave mine in neutral. I shift at 3k during normal driving.
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Re: Tips for stick shift driving

Actually, I've learned that I should set it in 1st gear or reverse while parking in a hill. Anyone can confirm that?
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I shift at about 3.5k. My H22 is getting old and needs a little more oomph lol.
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I shift at about 3.5k. My H22 is getting old and needs a little more oomph lol.
Why 3.5k? o.O
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Re: Tips for stick shift driving

The thing has 180,000 miles. It's not exactly in it's prime anymore, but it gets the job done. And 3500 is just normal driving. Hondas don't make any power below 3500 RPM anyway.
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Just wondering do you guys set it in first gear right after parking?
Ill leave it in just about whatever gear, usually 2nd cause that is what gear I am in when I park, or reverse when I back in. Sometimes neutral, if parked on a flat surface like my driveway with the e brake pulled tight. 1st if parked uphill, with the steering wheel cut to the right. Reverse if parked downhill, with steering wheel to the right. (so if it does roll for some unknown reason-the tire will be pointed towards the curb and stop it) It can be parked in any gear you want.
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Re: Tips for stick shift driving

One small tip. Don't psyche yourself out. When I was first learning I didn't think oh no I'm gonna mess up gonna mess up I was thinking I can do this, this isn't hard. Although I had some practice alternating feet from double bass on drums (heck just sit in your chair and as you bring your left foot down smoothly lift your right foot up and vice versa).
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Re: Tips for stick shift driving

Once your comfortable with driving a stick normally, you'll be able to eliminate most of that shift shock by double clutching.
Double clutching is basically in between shifts, you move the shifter to neutral and let off everything for a split second before continuing to shift into the next gear. it takes a little while to get down quickly, but that mixed with knowing what rev your current speed will need can stop the shift shock all together.

It just takes time, but you'll feel comfortable with it soon enough.
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Re: Tips for stick shift driving

And rev matching on your downshifts not only sounds badass if you have an exhaust, but once you get it down it makes it downshift smooth as butter.

Rev matching is shifting into neutral, revving the engine, and then downshifting.

It's a bit more complicated than that but I'm too lazy to explain right now.



Also, whenever you park, ALWAYS set the parking brake before you turn off the car, or let off the brake. You want the weight of the car resting on the parking brake, not your transmission. On flat surfaces I always leave it in neutral, on hills, you NEED to put it into gear. If your facing uphill, 1st. If your facing downhill, reverse.

Reason being is that you don't want the friggin car to roll away. And if the car is in 1st and parked on a downhill...then you run the risk of the car rolling and jumpstarting itself. Which will kinda make the rolling worse.
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then you run the risk of the car rolling and jumpstarting itself. Which will kinda make the rolling worse.
I would laugh my ass off if I ever saw that.....
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Picture people trying to jumpstart a manual car by rolling it down a hill and popping it in gear.

Now picture the same thing, minus the people.
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Haha, again, I would laugh all day.... provided no one got hurt of course.
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ahaha. i feel you my first stick is my lude now also! usually i switch between 3-4k.
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The thing has 180,000 miles. It's not exactly in it's prime anymore, but it gets the job done. And 3500 is just normal driving. Hondas don't make any power below 3500 RPM anyway.
HAH, thats nothin... mines got 208,000 and im gunna turbo it. JK that would be bad. After the first week you'll be aight son.
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When no ones near your car or you dont have to worry about it, leave it in first gear if your on the street somewhere and people drive like **** leave in neutral. If its cold enough outside where u live and gets below 20 degress at times throughout the winter leave your car in first no matter what otherwise there can be a chance that the ebrake gets stuck.
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And rev matching on your downshifts not only sounds badass if you have an exhaust, but once you get it down it makes it downshift smooth as butter.

Rev matching is shifting into neutral, revving the engine, and then downshifting.

It's a bit more complicated than that but I'm too lazy to explain right now.



Also, whenever you park, ALWAYS set the parking brake before you turn off the car, or let off the brake. You want the weight of the car resting on the parking brake, not your transmission. On flat surfaces I always leave it in neutral, on hills, you NEED to put it into gear. If your facing uphill, 1st. If your facing downhill, reverse.

Reason being is that you don't want the friggin car to roll away. And if the car is in 1st and parked on a downhill...then you run the risk of the car rolling and jumpstarting itself. Which will kinda make the rolling worse.
you can just leave the clutch in you dont have to leave it in neutral when you rev matching as long as you dont rev to high as you down shift.
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HAH, thats nothin... mines got 208,000 and im gunna turbo it. JK that would be bad. After the first week you'll be aight son.
lolwut?

I'm not new to sticks... or Hondas really (my last Honda was a 94 Accord w/JDM H22A swap lol).

Low compression numbers? That's the best time for boost! lol.
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I'm not new to sticks... or Hondas really (my last Honda was a 94 Accord w/JDM H22A swap lol).

Low compression numbers? That's the best time for boost! lol.
This post was just confusing. The first part he was talking to you. The second part he was talking to the op.
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If its cold enough outside where u live and gets below 20 degress at times throughout the winter leave your car in first no matter what otherwise there can be a chance that the ebrake gets stuck.
Hmm I've never had issues with that and I live in Ontario (southern and northern depends where I'm located at the moment) and to say we drop to lower than -20 is an understatement I've driven at -40 and never had issues.
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then you run the risk of the car rolling and jumpstarting itself.
do you leave your keys in the ignition in the on position?
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Re: Tips for stick shift driving

Ever try to jumpstart a manual by rolling the car down a hill and popping it in gear? Yeah, well, that's what I'm talking about.

If you leave it in first and park it on a steep slope facing downhill, the weight of the car can actually get it to roll and jumpstart itself. Not sure on the technical mechanics of the event, but its a real enough scenario for the DMV to teach us that during driving school.
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Re: Tips for stick shift driving

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Hmm I've never had issues with that and I live in Ontario (southern and northern depends where I'm located at the moment) and to say we drop to lower than -20 is an understatement I've driven at -40 and never had issues.
My car sat in -40 degree weather 2 winters ago. I house sat for my aunt and uncle for a week, the car just sat in the driveway the whole time. I had no problems with the tranny or E-Brake, or even starting. It just took a few seconds for it to turn over. The power steering fluid, on the other hand, was a bit of a problem. lol
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Re: Tips for stick shift driving

just daily driving keeping my gass i shift at about 3k (3.5k if on hill) but dont let is go below 2k (2.5 if on a hill) and this gets he good gas milage and doesnt feel like i am reving it for no purpose.
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