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Old 06-13-2010, 01:32 PM
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k20 6speed swap?

do you think this is possible?
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Re: k20 6speed swap?

maybe possible, but alot of modification and fabrication with motor mounts im sure.
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Re: k20 6speed swap?

HASport makes a K20 swap kit
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Re: k20 6speed swap?

anything is possible...... money and time is really the factor
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Re: k20 6speed swap?

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Yeah but I think he just wants to swap the trannies if understood correctly. I don't think there are any K2H tranny adapter kits out currently, not sure though.
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Re: k20 6speed swap?

well sort of yes. my timing belt went, soo i hope there no damage tot he block and ****. i hope its just my head soo i was just sorta thinking out loud i guess and was wondering if a k20 would be even practical in a prelude. and yes i was also thinking of the whole tranny swap. cuz i would love a 6 speed in a prelude!!!
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Re: k20 6speed swap?

I'm still confused, do you want to swap just the tranny in, or the K20 AND the tranny? I'm pretty sure there are only engine mount kits for swapping the K series into the 92-96 chassis, nothing for the 5G yet.
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Re: k20 6speed swap?

does anyone really do many swaps on 5th gens. I was sitting here and you hear about the JDM H22 swaps on 4ths, the K24 swaps for 4ths, hell even the H23 VTEC swap on 4ths(remember, I'm a 4th gen owner) but for the life of me, off hand I can't really think about hearing anyone swapping 5th gen engines really.
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Re: k20 6speed swap?

Well that's because all the US 5G's came with the H22 anyway. The few swaps I've seen have only been due to a blown original motor, or someone swapping in a BlueTop H23.
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Re: k20 6speed swap?

Think logically though. IF you can take an h22a4 from a 5g, and put it into a 4g without any modification, do you really think the k20 mounts for the 4g wouldn't work for the 5g?
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Re: k20 6speed swap?

It's true, he does. The Hasport K20 swap kits are marketed and detailed specifically for the BB1/2/4 chassis, so I don't get it. Are the tranny mounts the same between 5g/4g chassis?
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Re: k20 6speed swap?

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It's true, he does. The Hasport K20 swap kits are marketed and detailed specifically for the BB1/2/4 chassis, so I don't get it. Are the tranny mounts the same between 5g/4g chassis?
There is a lil difference between tha side mounts and trans mounts on BB4 and BB6. so theirs prob a lil difference between the chassis in how tha Hasport mount brakets fit thas y its only for BB4.
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Re: k20 6speed swap?

They do make mount kits for a k swap. You have to use the accord 5 speed trans or tsx 6 speed trans in preludes and accords from what I have come to understand the cases are larger. Also none of this will be cheap. If you find a really good deal on the engine and trans... I mean even if you got them for free it's still a 3000 to 3500 dollar swap. That's also you doing all the labor.

If you just want to use the k series trans on the h22. Not going to happen.
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Re: k20 6speed swap?

This has been covered on a few occasions of swapping a 6 speed into a lude but the time and money it would take to do so just isnt worth it, but to each his own.
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Re: k20 6speed swap?

I would love to do that. but eh.. i just want to keep my h22
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Re: k20 6speed swap?

Why would you wanna swap a 6 speed transmission anyway? I mean besides the whole being unique thing it just really doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It might just be me though.
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Re: k20 6speed swap?

Here is a k20 swapped 5th gen...not sure on the trans or what mounts were used. It looks like it fits good in there.
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Re: k20 6speed swap?

The engine and box can be swapped in with somewhat minimal fuss. Well, minimal for a massive engine swap.

If you want to swap only the 6-spd trans to the H22 then you need to know that the two engines spin in opposite directions; which would make the swap rather difficult.
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Re: k20 6speed swap?

why would you want just a k20??? get a k24a1 or a k24a2(preferably)

so much much much more torque and potential, especially when you add vtec(k24a2 from tsx already has it)
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^^^k20a would be better than both of those
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Re: k20 6speed swap?

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why would you want just a k20??? get a k24a1 or a k24a2(preferably)

so much much much more torque and potential, especially when you add vtec(k24a2 from tsx already has it)
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Re: k20 6speed swap?

stolen from another forum...k23a1 would be the best but prolly really expensive and hard to find so k20a is what I would get.

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K20A
Found in:
2001-2005 Honda Civic Type-R (EP3)
Displacement: 1998 cc
Compression: 11.5:1
Power: 212 hp (215 PS, 158 kW) @ 8000 rpm
Torque: 149 ftlbf (202 Nm) @ 7000 rpm
Redline: 8400 rpm
2001-2006 Honda Integra Type-R (DC5)
Displacement: 1998 cc
Compression: 11.5:1
Power: 217 hp (220 PS, 162 kW) @ 8000 rpm
Torque: 152 ftlbf (206 Nm) @ 7000 rpm
Redline: 8500 rpm
2002-2006 Honda Accord Euro-R
Displacement: 1998 cc
Compression: 11.5:1
Power: 217 hp (220 PS, 162 kW) @ 8000 rpm
Torque: 152 ftlbf (206 Nm) @ 7000 rpm
Redline: 8500 rpm

K20A2
Found in:
2002-2004 Acura RSX Type-S and 2002-2005 Honda Civic Type R (EP, European)
Displacement: 1998 cc
Compression: 11.0:1
Power: 200 hp (147 kW) @ 7400 rpm
Torque: 142 ftlbf (193 Nm) @ 6000 rpm
Redline: 8200 rpm

K20A3
Found in:
2002-2005 Honda Civic Si
Displacement: 1998 cc
Compression: 9.8:1
Power: 155 hp* (119 kW) @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 139
2002-2006 Acura RSX
Displacement: 1998 cc
Compression: 9.8:1
Power: 155 hp* (119 kW) @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 139 ftlbf* (191 Nm) @ 4000 rpm
Redline: 6800 rpm
(* Horsepower and torque calculations reflect new SAE J1349 procedures revised August 2004)

K20Z1
Found in:
2005-2006 Acura RSX-S
Displacement: 1998 cc
Compression: 11.0:1
Power: 201 hp (150 kW) @ 7800 rpm (sae NET Rev 8/04)
Torque: 140 ftlbf (194 Nm) @ 7000 rpm (sae NET Rev 8/04)
Redline: 8200 rpm



K20Z2
Found in:
2006- Acura CSX (Canada)
Displacement: 1998 cc
Compression: 9.6:1
Power: 155 hp (114 kW) @ 6000 rpm (sae NET Rev 8/04)
Torque: 139 ftlbf (188 Nm) @ 4500 rpm / 188 Nm @ 4200 rpm (Singapore)
Redline: 6800 rpm
2006- Honda Civic (JDM)
Displacement: 1998 cc
Compression: 9.6:1
Power: 155 hp (114 kW) @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 139 ftlbf (188 Nm) @ 4500 rpm
Redline: 6800 rpm
2006- Honda Accord Sport(Europe)
Displacement: 1998 cc
Compression: 9.6:1
Power: 155 hp (114 kW) @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 139 ftlbf (188 Nm) @ 4500 rpm
Redline: 6800 rpm

K20Z3
This inline-4 cylinder internal combustion engine is found in the redesigned Honda Civic Si. It has an aluminum block with aluminum heads, and a bore and stroke of 86 mm*86 mm, resulting in a 2.0 Liter displacement.

Found in:
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2007 Acura CSX Type-S
Displacement : 1998 cc
Compression : 11.0:1
Power: 197 bhp (147 kW) @ 7800 rpm (sae NET Rev 8/04)
Torque: 139 lbft (189 Nm) @ 6200 rpm (sae NET Rev 8/04)
Redline: 8000 rpm

K23


K23A1
Turbocharged
Found in:
2007 Acura RDX
Displacement: 2300 cc (acura.com)
Compression: 8.8:1 (acura.com)
Power: 240 hp @ 6000 rpm (SAE net)
Torque: 260 ftlbf @ 4500 rpm (SAE net)
Redline: 6800 (acura.com)
Bore: 86 mm
Stroke: 99 mm

K24

K24A1
Found in:
2002-2006 Honda CR-V
Displacement: 2354 cc
Bore and Stroke: 87 mm x 99 mm (3.43x3.90 inches)
Compression: 9.6:1
Power: 160 hp (119 kW) @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 162 ftlbf (220 Nm) @ 3600 rpm
Redline: 6500 rpm





K24A2
Found in:
2004-2006 Acura TSX
Displacement: 2354 cc
Bore and Stroke: 87 mm x 99 mm (3.43x3.90 inches)
Compression: 10.5:1
Power: 205 hp (149 kW) @ 6800 rpm
Torque: 166 ftlbf (225 Nm) @ 4500 rpm
Redline: 7100 rpm

K24A3
Found in:
2003-2006 Honda Accord (Europe, Japan, and Australia)
Displacement: 2354 cc
Bore and Stroke: 87 mm x 99 mm (3.43x3.90 inches)
Compression: 10.5:1
Power: 189 hp (140 kW) @ 6800 rpm
Torque: 164.5 ftlbf (223 Nm) @ 4500 rpm
Redline: 7000 rpm

K24A4
Found in:
2003-2005 Honda Accord, 2003-2006 Honda Element
Displacement: 2354 cc
Bore and Stroke: 87 mm x 99 mm (3.43x3.90 inches)
Compression: 9.7:1
Power: 160 hp (119 kW) @ 5500 rpm
Torque: 161 ftlbf (218 Nm) @ 4500 rpm
Redline: 6500 rpm

K24A8
Found in:
2006/2007 Honda Accord
Displacement: 2354 cc
Bore and Stroke: 87 mm x 99 mm (3.43x3.90 inches)
Compression: 9.7:1
Power: 166 hp (124 kW) @ 6000 RPM
Torque: 160 ftlbf @ 4000 rpm
Redline: 6500 rpm
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Re: k20 6speed swap?

way to jack from wikipedia...

I would say k24a2 > k20a.
Harder to make up extra tq than hp and our cars are heavier.
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way to jack from wikipedia...

I would say k24a2 > k20a.
Harder to make up extra tq than hp and our cars are heavier.
yeah you guys are facking stupid if you would pick k20a over k24a2. and thats just with stats, not to mention that a k20a is at least double the price...
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hey guys... its been done by senate111?? from preludeonline.com YEARS AGO... until he crashed it. he has a write up somewhere. i do know he went through hell to get it right though. screw k20a tranny.... i want an f22c tranny.... lmao. maybe one day i will get a chance to take one apart and put that gearing in an h22 tranny.
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Re: k20 6speed swap?

Why the f22c? Im guessing it has shorter gears even than the h22's tranny?
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Hmm...I really don't know. I googled it but couldn't find anything. But considering the S2000 top speed is like 149-150, and it's got one more gear than us, yeah I'd assume the gears are shorter.
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yea they are shorter..... screw it i am just going to put a final drive in and be done lol.
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yea they are shorter..... screw it i am just going to put a final drive in and be done lol.
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