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Automatic transmissions

I was just curious as to the reasons that everyone hates on automatic cars? Esp in a 5th gen where there's sport shifting...and I know thats manual wannabe....but still..Im curious as to why automatics are so frowned upon?
I have always myself considered my auto 5g inferior....and do all auto cars...but have never known why. Manuals get better gas mileage(which im pretty sure most people around here don't give a rats tail about), and are generally a little bit quicker because the auto trannys are always quite heavy. But other than that, What are the reasons?
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Re: Automatic transmissions

Less stuff to go wrong with a manual. And when it comes to prelude automatics, there's alot that could go wrong. The prelude auto trans were built like crap, which is why the 5 spd swap is so popular.

Plus if you're driving a sport car with an automatic, you look like a jackass.
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better gas milage cuz of the extra gear and you get to choose when the tranny shifts and its lighter so its less weight for the car to move.
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Re: Automatic transmissions

5th Gen Prelude AUTO trannys are jus known to crap out on you and it's a waste to replace with another AUTO. So most people after their AUTO craps out on them that they convert to a 5spd like I did!!!

Dont get me wrong...

I was once AUTO and I til this day love it bc it's so much easier to drive with then to keep clutching and whatnot. But my USDM motor started to take a sh*t on me at the crank n crank pulley as well as my AUTO tranny started to slip like crazy!!! When the tranny bolt was removed there was massive amounts of metal shavings magnatized to the bolt as well as the fluid being near black colored!!!

But now that i'm 5spd...it's soooo much nicer and fun......especially when ppl piss you off on the highway and you can drop down to a lower gear and VTAK their dumbass instead of slapping the "+" and hoping it picks up soon enough to pass the guy without looking like an ass not catching up to him!!!-hahahahahaaa

Enjoy the AUTO tranny and appreciate it. But once it fails then have some $$ saved up for the 5spd swap and you'll be content with that!!!
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auto trannys are crap plain and simple....
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Re: Automatic transmissions

From first thought I would go with performance. It's like driving a Miata man, it makes you look girly. Real men drive stick (as said in the below article). You should be able to maintain total control instead of just "suggesting" things to your car.

"Please, please, stay in 2nd gear baby. I want to do a burnout!"

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Re: Automatic transmissions

yes all of this is true....But what Ive got is an automatic 99 Prelude....and Ive gotta run with what I've got. Part of the reason I got it was because it was such a nice find and i couldn't pass it up, and as of right now Im not the best at stick....which I hope to change this summer. Im going to be doing a swap when the tranny fails on me, but until then Im stuck with an auto :(
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Plus if you're driving a sport car with an automatic, you look like a jackass.
Hey I don't look like a jack ass . I'll get my swap done one of these days and throw it in all you'll faces

PS. Preludes aren't really considered sport cars IMO
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Something makes me think the same thing....I may have seen it on Edmunds or something. Anyway....can much be done, other than a tranny swap or engine swap, to increase power or improve response time in an auto?
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Something makes me think the same thing....I may have seen it on Edmunds or something. Anyway....can much be done, other than a tranny swap or engine swap, to increase power or improve response time in an auto?
Power? Yes... Response time?
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haha yes..a funny notion....eh it was worth a shot. So...what are some ways you can increase power in an auto?
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Preludes are sport cars IMO. It's better than calling them rice burners or what have you.

They're like sports cars for poor people.
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5-Speed swap, nuff said.

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cuz they're automatics. that's all that needs to be said
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before manual, I was just a sissybone, fruitcup, that knew only 4 numbers 2 letters
After manual, I am now a sissybone, fruitcup that knows 5 numbers and 2 letters.

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yes all of this is true....But what Ive got is an automatic 99 Prelude....and Ive gotta run with what I've got. Part of the reason I got it was because it was such a nice find and i couldn't pass it up, and as of right now Im not the best at stick....which I hope to change this summer. Im going to be doing a swap when the tranny fails on me, but until then Im stuck with an auto :(
My situation is similar. I bought a base 98 with and auto because of the nice condition it was in and the low low price I got it for. I had a 5 speed 92 accord for the last 7 years and I deff wanted another 5 speed. I read up on how the auto trannys are garbage for that gen prelude and they all eventually **** the bed and start slippin. And I started reading up and saw that everybody ends up doing a 5 speed swap fairly easily. I liked the sound of this!! My car drives fine if you baby it, but if you get on it it tends to slip between first and second. I found out what I needed to do it and now I already have every single part I need to do the swap. (actually I still need to get the flywheel bolts and pressure plate bolts- but that's it) I am doing the swap myself in my garage at home, but I have very limited time between my job and my eight year old son. Ive had the parts for a few months now but I've been waiting for warm weather. Ive been doing things little at a time but I already have the clutch pedal assembly (with a 3rd mounting support on top), manual brake pedal assembly and master cylinder installed, all the hydraulic lines ran correctly that go to manual tranny. I cant wait to jump in and finish this project. It is still fully functional and drivable as an automatic right now but hopefully not for long!
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My situation is similar. I bought a base 98 with and auto because of the nice condition it was in and the low low price I got it for. I had a 5 speed 92 accord for the last 7 years and I deff wanted another 5 speed. I read up on how the auto trannys are garbage for that gen prelude and they all eventually **** the bed and start slippin. And I started reading up and saw that everybody ends up doing a 5 speed swap fairly easily. I liked the sound of this!! My car drives fine if you baby it, but if you get on it it tends to slip between first and second. I found out what I needed to do it and now I already have every single part I need to do the swap. (actually I still need to get the flywheel bolts and pressure plate bolts- but that's it) I am doing the swap myself in my garage at home, but I have very limited time between my job and my eight year old son. Ive had the parts for a few months now but I've been waiting for warm weather. Ive been doing things little at a time but I already have the clutch pedal assembly (with a 3rd mounting support on top), manual brake pedal assembly and master cylinder installed, all the hydraulic lines ran correctly that go to manual tranny. I cant wait to jump in and finish this project. It is still fully functional and drivable as an automatic right now but hopefully not for long!
Good luck with that. You should take pics of the build, and keep us updated.
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My situation is similar. I bought a base 98 with and auto because of the nice condition it was in and the low low price I got it for. I had a 5 speed 92 accord for the last 7 years and I deff wanted another 5 speed. I read up on how the auto trannys are garbage for that gen prelude and they all eventually **** the bed and start slippin. And I started reading up and saw that everybody ends up doing a 5 speed swap fairly easily. I liked the sound of this!! My car drives fine if you baby it, but if you get on it it tends to slip between first and second. I found out what I needed to do it and now I already have every single part I need to do the swap. (actually I still need to get the flywheel bolts and pressure plate bolts- but that's it) I am doing the swap myself in my garage at home, but I have very limited time between my job and my eight year old son. Ive had the parts for a few months now but I've been waiting for warm weather. Ive been doing things little at a time but I already have the clutch pedal assembly (with a 3rd mounting support on top), manual brake pedal assembly and master cylinder installed, all the hydraulic lines ran correctly that go to manual tranny. I cant wait to jump in and finish this project. It is still fully functional and drivable as an automatic right now but hopefully not for long!
Dude...glad to hear Im not the only one haha. Keep us updated with pictures and short write-ups and such on the project. I will be doing a 5 spd swap as well....but that will not come until the auto tranny hits the grave. Anyway, Good luck on the project....and remember to keep us updated!
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Why do automatics constantly get hated on? One word - ignorance.

The fifth gen Prelude's autos have a well documented failure rate. Not to mention some absolutely retarded gear ratios that make absolutely no sence to somebody who has ever driven a car on a spirited drive.

Autos will usually get worse fuel milage, and that's basically due to the fluid coupling nature of the torque converter rather than the direct transmission of power through the clutch.

Automatic gear boxes have their place. When released, the Prelude was the top of the range vehicle, the company flagship. The Prelude was always the first car to get new technology before it filtered down to the rest of the range (ATTS for example) or knocked on the head with a cricket bat (4 wheel steer comes to mind). This is why the Prelude is such a confused car IMO. The engineers endowed it with a very capable chassis and relatively powerful engine, then weighed it down with every luxury feature for available at the time. It was always a luxury car. Hence the option of the auto box.

As we all know the S2000 wasn't available with the option of an automatic; despite the fact that we all know many many more would've been sold if an auto was available. It was most def a sports car. The Prelude, regardless of what engine (or massive power setup) we swap into, how serious a suspension setup fit or anything else, was not.
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Dude...glad to hear Im not the only one haha. Keep us updated with pictures and short write-ups and such on the project. I will be doing a 5 spd swap as well....but that will not come until the auto tranny hits the grave. Anyway, Good luck on the project....and remember to keep us updated!
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Why do automatics constantly get hated on? One word - ignorance.

The fifth gen Prelude's autos have a well documented failure rate. Not to mention some absolutely retarded gear ratios that make absolutely no sence to somebody who has ever driven a car on a spirited drive.

Autos will usually get worse fuel milage, and that's basically due to the fluid coupling nature of the torque converter rather than the direct transmission of power through the clutch.

Automatic gear boxes have their place. When released, the Prelude was the top of the range vehicle, the company flagship. The Prelude was always the first car to get new technology before it filtered down to the rest of the range (ATTS for example) or knocked on the head with a cricket bat (4 wheel steer comes to mind). This is why the Prelude is such a confused car IMO. The engineers endowed it with a very capable chassis and relatively powerful engine, then weighed it down with every luxury feature for available at the time. It was always a luxury car. Hence the option of the auto box.

As we all know the S2000 wasn't available with the option of an automatic; despite the fact that we all know many many more would've been sold if an auto was available. It was most def a sports car. The Prelude, regardless of what engine (or massive power setup) we swap into, how serious a suspension setup fit or anything else, was not.
A very well put and thorough reply. Thank you Brash. I might go out on a limb here, but I think its safe to say that auto's always get worse gas mileage. Now that you point all that out about the Prelude being a sort of luxury car...I can see that. Im thinking Honda's purpose for the prelude was to draw more people to the "slightly luxurious and potent little car"(can't think of another term) segment. As I have said several times....I would prefer a stick, but as of now I have an auto, and need to learn to drive a stick better...which hopefully will be happening soon. Cars such as the S2K are definitely sport cars. Even tho I do have an auto, I consider it a sin for sports cars to have the option of an auto box. No matter what kind of new shifting technology it gives to the driver, its always going to be heavier and slower and generally not belonging in a car that is meant to be lightweight. Which is why when I saw that the new 370Z now has an auto box, I thought it just plain wrong. Plus, with all that weight, it takes away the essence of having a sports car. The weight slows it down and the respectable 1/4 m times and 0-60 times are now reduced to nothing worth taking a second look at. Or take the Lexus IS-F. Great version of a semi-quick sedan. Supposed to be the sports model of the IS line. It comes standard with an....AUTO tranny. Does it offer a manual? Nope. Yes, apparently it shifts as quick or quicker than some supercars(supposedly) but theres STILL the weight...and the fact that the car is doing a lot of it. Now Lexus wonders why they haven't sold that many of them......(at least that I have seen). I did know why a stick is always the better choice over an auto...thats not hard to figure out. But what I did not know was why they are so hated on(like the question says), so thats why I asked.
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A very well put and thorough reply. Thank you Brash. I might go out on a limb here, but I think its safe to say that auto's always get worse gas mileage.
Always is a bit harsh. I can think of a couple examples (EC5 Mitsu VR-4; 2.5L V6TT with 5-spd auto is considerably better on fuel than the same car with the 5-spd manual for instance) where the gear ratios for the auto box are enough to get over the losses through the torque converter and bring in better fuel economy.

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Now that you point all that out about the Prelude being a sort of luxury car...I can see that. Im thinking Honda's purpose for the prelude was to draw more people to the "slightly luxurious and potent little car"(can't think of another term) segment. As I have said several times....I would prefer a stick, but as of now I have an auto...
The purpose of the Prelude was to get people into showrooms. Kinda like the Nissan GT-R or Corvette ZR-1. People walk into the showroom to look at the ZR-1. They might leave having only purchased an Aveo, but it was the hero car that got them in there in the first place. This is the pedestal that the Prelude lived on.

I also prefer a clutch shifted manual. I bought an auto because at the time I bought my car I wanted a luxury car; so I found one with an auto box, leather, etc. I do kinda wish I'd bought a manual, as having driven a few manuals it is a completely different car.

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I consider it a sin for sports cars to have the option of an auto box. No matter what kind of new shifting technology it gives to the driver, its always going to be heavier and slower and generally not belonging in a car that is meant to be lightweight. Which is why when I saw that the new 370Z now has an auto box, I thought it just plain wrong. Plus, with all that weight, it takes away the essence of having a sports car. The weight slows it down and the respectable 1/4 m times and 0-60 times are now reduced to nothing worth taking a second look at. Or take the Lexus IS-F. Great version of a semi-quick sedan. Supposed to be the sports model of the IS line. It comes standard with an....AUTO tranny. Does it offer a manual? Nope. Yes, apparently it shifts as quick or quicker than some supercars(supposedly) but theres STILL the weight...and the fact that the car is doing a lot of it. Now Lexus wonders why they haven't sold that many of them......(at least that I have seen). I did know why a stick is always the better choice over an auto...thats not hard to figure out. But what I did not know was why they are so hated on(like the question says), so thats why I asked.
Well you're not quite right. A few of the cars you mentioned (370Z, among others like the R35 GT-R and Mitsu Evo 10) aren't auto boxes. They're still a clutch shifted manual, it's just that the driver doesn't operate the clutch. Same with super exotics like the BMW M3 and Ferrari California; they're not automatic boxes in the traditional sense (like I said, a torque converter transmitting twist from engine to differential). The GT-R for instance uses two clutch discs - one for gears 1-3-5 and one for 2-4-6. When you flick the paddle it shifts in a couple tenths of a second.

The trans itself isn't neccessarily heavier. For instance the automatic transaxle fitted to the Prelude is only a couple kg heavier than the manual. Extra weight is more likely to come from ESP systems, curtain airbags, extra sound deadening, bluetooth phone connections, heads up displays, seat warmers, etc. The R35 weighs over 1800kg, the car they benchmarked the entire time (Porsche 911 Turbo) weighs 500kg less; so Nissan were behind before they even started the chase.

You mention the Lexus IS-F. Now you're right, this is meant to be an attempt to take sales away from BMW's M3, Mercedes Benz's C63 AMG and other ballistic sedans. Considering that over 50% of the BMW and M-B's sales are made from the self shifting varients you couldn't say that it's the lack of manual option that stops it from selling (though I believe the ISF is fitted with an 8-spd twin cluch transmission rather than a conventional auto); but when you consider that IS was 3 seconds a lap slower than an M3 around a circuit when tested by MOTOR magazine (remember I'm from the other side of the world, and as such will always site local examples), who also said despite being line-ball in a straight line it didn't handle anywhere near as good as the M3, I think that's the answer. Blaming poor sales only on the lack of a proper manual is too short sighted.

Especially when 95% of consumers aren't buying regular clutch shifted manuals anymore anyway. When the car is activating the clutch better and blipping the throttle on downshifts better than anyone this side of a professional racer can, then why wouldn't you option one?
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I also prefer a clutch shifted manual. I bought an auto because at the time I bought my car I wanted a luxury car; so I found one with an auto box, leather, etc. I do kinda wish I'd bought a manual, as having driven a few manuals it is a completely different car.



Well you're not quite right. A few of the cars you mentioned (370Z, among others like the R35 GT-R and Mitsu Evo 10) aren't auto boxes. They're still a clutch shifted manual, it's just that the driver doesn't operate the clutch. Same with super exotics like the BMW M3 and Ferrari California; they're not automatic boxes in the traditional sense (like I said, a torque converter transmitting twist from engine to differential). The GT-R for instance uses two clutch discs - one for gears 1-3-5 and one for 2-4-6. When you flick the paddle it shifts in a couple tenths of a second.

The trans itself isn't neccessarily heavier. For instance the automatic transaxle fitted to the Prelude is only a couple kg heavier than the manual. Extra weight is more likely to come from ESP systems, curtain airbags, extra sound deadening, bluetooth phone connections, heads up displays, seat warmers, etc. The R35 weighs over 1800kg, the car they benchmarked the entire time (Porsche 911 Turbo) weighs 500kg less; so Nissan were behind before they even started the chase.

You mention the Lexus IS-F. Now you're right, this is meant to be an attempt to take sales away from BMW's M3, Mercedes Benz's C63 AMG and other ballistic sedans. Considering that over 50% of the BMW and M-B's sales are made from the self shifting varients you couldn't say that it's the lack of manual option that stops it from selling (though I believe the ISF is fitted with an 8-spd twin cluch transmission rather than a conventional auto); but when you consider that IS was 3 seconds a lap slower than an M3 around a circuit when tested by MOTOR magazine (remember I'm from the other side of the world, and as such will always site local examples), who also said despite being line-ball in a straight line it didn't handle anywhere near as good as the M3, I think that's the answer. Blaming poor sales only on the lack of a proper manual is too short sighted.

Especially when 95% of consumers aren't buying regular clutch shifted manuals anymore anyway. When the car is activating the clutch better and blipping the throttle on downshifts better than anyone this side of a professional racer can, then why wouldn't you option one?
You, sir, have been around preludes since they were in production..am I right?
First, I did not know that about the prelude. I was merely 11 the last year they made one, and was not thinking of Honda's back then...nor do I remember much from back then.
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I did know that in cases such as those, an auto tranny is not as bad as one in a Honda because of the capabilities they endowed it with. In such case they have mastered and engineered it so that the driver feels completely in control, but the car does help them out on a quicker level.
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The trans itself isn't neccessarily heavier. For instance the automatic transaxle fitted to the Prelude is only a couple kg heavier than the manual. Extra weight is more likely to come from ESP systems, curtain airbags, extra sound deadening, bluetooth phone connections, heads up displays, seat warmers, etc.
I do not know how much of that was available here stateside. Im almost positive I do not side curtain airbags. I know that there was no option for bluetooth connectivity(stock at least), and pretty sure no heads up display. As usual, The states got the shaft.

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Not to mention some absolutely retarded gear ratios that make absolutely no sence to somebody who has ever driven a car on a spirited drive.

Automatic gear boxes have their place. When released, the Prelude was the top of the range vehicle, the company flagship. The Prelude was always the first car to get new technology before it filtered down to the rest of the range (ATTS for example) or knocked on the head with a cricket bat (4 wheel steer comes to mind). This is why the Prelude is such a confused car IMO. The engineers endowed it with a very capable chassis and relatively powerful engine, then weighed it down with every luxury feature for available at the time. It was always a luxury car. Hence the option of the auto box.
I might not have experienced the most fun that can be had from driving a prelude, but I do know this: Having owned 2 integras and a civic already in my driving life, even in automatic form, it is a very fun, spirited, and responsive car. I go to school near the Cherokee, NC end of the Blueridge Parkway, and it is driving bliss, as much as I have experience, driving the Prelude through all the twists, turns, and short straightaways. Compared to the other three Honda vehicles I have driven, the Prelude is awesome. the Civic I had, for example, was a 2000 EX. Which is, as you know, the top model in auto form. I cannot tell you how underpowered the thing was. Same with the Integra. Although have 146 hp as opposed to the civic's 127...it was still massively underpowered.
Brash, Thanks for all your insight....it is much appreciated and even in the course of this little discussion...Ive learned quite a bit. Reps!
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I did know that in cases such as those, an auto tranny is not as bad as one in a Honda because of the capabilities they endowed it with. In such case they have mastered and engineered it so that the driver feels completely in control, but the car does help them out on a quicker level.
Not even. An auto just appeals to a different person. I've always thought the only excuse for buying an automatic Porsche was that you didn't have full use of your left leg, but renowned Porsche test driver Walter Rohrl has just taken delivery of his new company car, a blue Turbo complete with 7-spd Porsche Doppelkupplung (mercifully abbreviated to PDK) gearbox; which is (you guessed it) a multiple clutch gearbox. Because truth is, unless you have Walter's level of skill, you won't be faster with a regular manual. And that's sorta what I've been getting at - the only people who lust after clutch shifted manuals these days are young people like ourselves and motoring journalists.

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I do not know how much of that was available here stateside. Im almost positive I do not side curtain airbags. I know that there was no option for bluetooth connectivity(stock at least), and pretty sure no heads up display. As usual, The states got the shaft.
I wasn't listing a specific spec sheet, just a bunch of options/features that many new cars come with. These (in addition to extra steel to try and make the car safer if the ham fisted driver crashes it) are the real blame for why cars today are heavier than the cars of 10 years ago. But despite this, today they get better fuel milage, handle better and go faster than the equivalent model from a decade ago. (Of course the Chev Camaro is the exception to this rule)


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I might not have experienced the most fun that can be had from driving a prelude, but I do know this: Having owned 2 integras and a civic already in my driving life, even in automatic form, it is a very fun, spirited, and responsive car. I go to school near the Cherokee, NC end of the Blueridge Parkway, and it is driving bliss, as much as I have experience, driving the Prelude through all the twists, turns, and short straightaways. Compared to the other three Honda vehicles I have driven, the Prelude is awesome. the Civic I had, for example, was a 2000 EX. Which is, as you know, the top model in auto form. I cannot tell you how underpowered the thing was. Same with the Integra. Although have 146 hp as opposed to the civic's 127...it was still massively underpowered.
Brash, Thanks for all your insight....it is much appreciated and even in the course of this little discussion...Ive learned quite a bit. Reps!
I've never said the auto Prelude was a bad car, as you've found yourself it's still quite fun. A mate of mine locally bought his BB6 shortly after smashing his DC2 type R and on a winding road he's not much slower in a standard Prelude than his DC2R was; so the car is more than capable.

But like I said, the target buyer for the Prelude was somebody who wanted a sporty car, but wasn't willing to give up their luxury appointments; which is precisly why there are so many autos around...and the reason I bought one.
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Liiiike I said.....just wondering why autos are so hated on. Personally, Ive begun to establish more of my own opinion thanks to all that Brash told me. Autos can be quite handy when sitting in traffic in a city like Atlanta where traffic is everywhere you go. Its nice to have the option to let the car shift. I personally never do, but if I ever get that lazy I can just let it shift. Right now auto is a good choice for me.
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