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Old 05-23-2010, 03:39 PM
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removed my resonator, bad news

Before you read I must tell you I read all the freaking posts I found on the internet about resonator and all that, couldn't find what I was looking for and since I'm still new here I kinda hesitated before posting, didn't want to get flamed...

ok so today I removed my stock resonator along with my butterfly valve & BV controller, removed all vaccum lines, and capped off the vaccum plug on the intake manifold.

what I found on my ''two stage intake'' as some might call it, was this:



It seems pretty much toasted, the valve won't open, by pulling on the wire and by pushing on the valve inside the plastic tube...so I guess it was staying closed all the time when I was riding the car, right ? or it needs a ENORMOUS suck from the IM to open it ?

I've been having probs with my power decreasing lately, wondering if it could have been my valve staying closed not giving my engine enough air ?

thank you for reading and trying to help me here
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I dont know what your question is? Just take it out and leave it out. You dont need it.
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Re: removed my resonator, bad news

he's asking if the valve being stuck closed could hinder performance.

but like evan said, just leave the resonator out, you don't need it.
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he's asking if the valve being stuck closed could hinder performance.

but like evan said, just leave the resonator out, you don't need it.
yeah, the resonator is useless, but should I put back my '' 2 pipes'' intake with my butterfly valve ( wich broke btw , was rusty as hell )

I'm not planning on buying any CAI or SRI, I just want to most hp and best response outta my stock intake, and the last thing I want is problems !

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Re: removed my resonator, bad news

Yeah just remove that whole resonater completely. Then Get yourself a K&N drop in filter. One of the best setups you can do. You wont have any problems at all.
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Re: removed my resonator, bad news

I heard it was good to still have some ''restriction'' in the intake to provide good low-end torque ?

now if I leave it as it is, is it too much freeflowing to hinder low-end ? ( cause it seems to be, I test drove the car)

I've read many threads about this, but they all contradict each other so I don't really know what to beleive ?
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Re: removed my resonator, bad news

A stock intake, with a drop-in K&N filter and the resonator removed, has been dyno proven (by 98vtec aka Blake) to yield the most HP.
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I heard it was good to still have some ''restriction'' in the intake to provide good low-end torque ?

now if I leave it as it is, is it too much freeflowing to hinder low-end ? ( cause it seems to be, I test drove the car)

I've read many threads about this, but they all contradict each other so I don't really know what to beleive ?
Well, the point of the butterfly controller was to open that valve on the stock intake at higher rpms. I did read that with the valve closed it made a bit more torque at low rpms. Honestly IMO I doubt you would feel any difference, so you are best off leaving the resignator off, because that was a whole restriction itself. Like 94 lude tech said, it is best to take out the resignator, and put a K&N drop in filter in.
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Re: removed my resonator, bad news

thanks a lot guys, I'll order a K&N drop in instead of an OEM one
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Well, the point of the butterfly controller was to open that valve on the stock intake at higher rpms. I did read that with the valve closed it made a bit more torque at low rpms. Honestly IMO I doubt you would feel any difference, so you are best off leaving the resignator off, because that was a whole restriction itself. Like 94 lude tech said, it is best to take out the resignator, and put a K&N drop in filter in.
Actually i found something different. I fitted a vacuum gauge onto that vacuum line that would normally feed to the resonator's valve. Around 3k RPM vacuum would fall to 0 mmHg and it would fall if a sudden change in vacuum was induced (flooring in 5th gear at 2k for example). So my conclusion was that it is purely for economy in that it restricts air flow untill around 3k RPM or when at WOT.

To answer the original question, yes if this valve was not working you will experience a loss of power across the entire RPM band almost!lol

The best way to go is to simply remove the resonator (which you have done) and leave the factory intake in its current position. It is possible to use the rubber connector (air filter box rubber connector; connects to the resonator) to make a "factory CAI". You will likely feel some loss of torque at low rpm but after a week of driving it will be completely overshadowed by the improvements in sound and throttle response/mid to high range HP.
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I simply removed the vacuum hose and plugged it with no ill effects
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Actually i found something different. I fitted a vacuum gauge onto that vacuum line that would normally feed to the resonator's valve. Around 3k RPM vacuum would fall to 0 mmHg and it would fall if a sudden change in vacuum was induced (flooring in 5th gear at 2k for example). So my conclusion was that it is purely for economy in that it restricts air flow untill around 3k RPM or when at WOT.

To answer the original question, yes if this valve was not working you will experience a loss of power across the entire RPM band almost!lol

The best way to go is to simply remove the resonator (which you have done) and leave the factory intake in its current position. It is possible to use the rubber connector (air filter box rubber connector; connects to the resonator) to make a "factory CAI". You will likely feel some loss of torque at low rpm but after a week of driving it will be completely overshadowed by the improvements in sound and throttle response/mid to high range HP.
Wow that was a great idea lol!
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