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help with cams and pistons

i got a few questions on cams and pistons. ok right now my h22 is all motor pretty much iv done every bolt on mod u can think of and tryn now to do internal work. i need to know what are good cams and pistons now im not trying to spend a fortune but i want something good. also prob in a year im most likely going to boost my lude so another question is should i just wait till i put a turbo in to get them or should i just drop them in now? any advace would be greatly appritiated, thanks guys.
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Re: help with cams and pistons

since youre going boost, lower compression is ideal. if you put them in now, you will suffer a loss in power. as for cams, not too sure. it all depends on how much you have. id just bang everything out all together. no use in tearing any engine down just to rebuild it a little later
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thanks for your opinions upsluder i apritiate it. if anyone else has a opinion please share i would like many imputs. thanks again guys
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Re: help with cams and pistons

your stock cams should be fine for boost unless you are going for crazy stupid numbers. just save your money and do the build all at once when you are ready to boost. sleeving plus low compression pistons will be ideal for boost.
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Re: help with cams and pistons

Ok thanks u two looks I'm just going to wait till I drop the turbo in. Another question I got is sleeving the motor can someone give me a lil info bout that I hear that. It just means making the walls thicker
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Re: help with cams and pistons

no, it means removing your stock FRM sleeves and replacing them with an iron sleeve like a darton dry sleeve. sleeves will start around $400 and go up depending on what you want. you will also have to pay a machinist to press them in. building a good reliable is definitely not cheap. i would say if you're not willing to fork out at least $10K for parts and machining labor then i would not even attempt a reliable build that will make good power. it really sounds like you havent even done much research. research is the key to any build . . . . . i have researched my build for the past year, and will continue to research it until i do it, which will be in about another 2 years. just when you think you know everything read some more, and you'll find out you dont.

there are many great threads on building for boots in our F/I section, you should start here: So, you wanna go turbo, huh?
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Re: help with cams and pistons

i'd love to build and boost a 12:1 F22 just to shut all the nay-sayers up

you can boost high CR no problem, just get a good tuner.
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i'd love to build and boost a 12:1 F22 just to shut all the nay-sayers up

you can boost high CR no problem, just get a good tuner.
And about $60 a week for race gas lmao
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oh ok and yah i see your point. thats my plan in a year or so im going to start building it up and going to try to hit 500 horses.my girlfreinds cusin has a prelude thats pushing over 500 so im going to ask her for advice later on
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Ya def sleeve the block. Other then that tho the stock head should be fine (maybe do a standard rework IE valves springs retainers) for around 600hp. Just biuld that bottom end up. That's what I'm doin =b
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Re: help with cams and pistons

i never really looked into anyhting with pistons but just wondering now so if i wanna stay N/A will getting new pistons help with power? and then since you want low compression for boots does that mean you want higher compression for N/A? j/w :)
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Higher compression is always better from a performance standpoint. But as far as from a practicality standpoint...eh. You CAN run boost with high compression, but generally race gas and extremely talented tuners come into play at that point. But if you want to stay N/A, there is something to be gained from pistons. If you have an H22, swapping in Type-S pistons should net you .75 to 1 point of compression if I remember correctly. There are other ways to bump your compression though, such as thinner head gaskets and milling your head. I know we have some good articles around here, so if you're really interested, find them and read. And read. And read.
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Higher compression is always better from a performance standpoint. But as far as from a practicality standpoint...eh. You CAN run boost with high compression, but generally race gas and extremely talented tuners come into play at that point. But if you want to stay N/A, there is something to be gained from pistons. If you have an H22, swapping in Type-S pistons should net you .75 to 1 point of compression if I remember correctly. There are other ways to bump your compression though, such as thinner head gaskets and milling your head. I know we have some good articles around here, so if you're really interested, find them and read. And read. And read.
alright dude thanks. yeah ill have to do that when i find time. ive been planning on getting cams but didnt even think about pistons so ill have to look into it.
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i'd love to build and boost a 12:1 F22 just to shut all the nay-sayers up

you can boost high CR no problem, just get a good tuner.
ah, my buddy did that on his h22 swaped ek. he was running i think 11.5:1 cr, with 14lbs of boost, and a welded diff. the thing was insane to drive. he drag raced it mainly, but still would drive from time to time with the slicks on.
think he was running like a high 10 sec quarter mile iirc.

too bad it blew up after like 10k (literally shot a valve up threw the valve cover and out the hood.)
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