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Old 04-26-2010, 12:25 PM
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Was up people!?! Ok... i just bought a 97 lude and im a new member too. I search threads to see ,but didn't find anything simalar. The leak is dripping from(if your in front of lude) the left side where the tranny is. spotty pattern...I took it to aamaco.. first jiffy lube said its a tranny leak(while i was doing my first oil change day after i bought the lude.

Aamaco clean everywhere to see where it was comeing from. Thing is i have a feeling it's not what i was told.First they said it was axle seal..then valve seal.. then distrubutor seal.. Now they say its the crank seak(rear main seal) 400 bucks...they have to take the tranny apart to get to it...? I'm thinging of going to the dealer to have them look at it...

If i change the rear main seal( crank seal) NO WARRANTY!?! why? because after replacing the seal the crank shaft might need to be replaced...

If any one can help or think what it might be...Should i change anything while replacing the rear main seal?please share your thoughts,or should i get a secound opinion. Thanks in advance.. WOW i just called the dealer its 800 bucks if its the rear main seal OMFG.. ITS 100 dollars for them to check it..

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Re: Oil leak... where?

Do you think you can take a pic so that we can have an idea as to where it might possibly be?!?!

BC with all that you said it sounds like madness!!!

Any CEL popped up?!?! Any signs of the car acting unusual?!
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Do you think you can take a pic so that we can have an idea as to where it might possibly be?!?!

BC with all that you said it sounds like madness!!!

Any CEL popped up?!?! Any signs of the car acting unusual?!
I will take a picture.. the light might not be soo good since its pooring over here and will be took in the garage.

Well i just bought the car...so i don't have enough time with it to no the unusual.

CEL?? you mean lights in the dash? If so, no.. no light pop up.

Give me a min to take a pic.
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Sorry, but the light is terrible.. won't beable to even see where it's dripping.
The funny thing is where i seen it dripp...there's no drips and its all clean since AAmaco clan it all up to find out where the leak is comeing from.
**** is driving me crazy...why do you think i can't see it dripping/not even a drop on the floor yet..well only been in for about an hour...so it might change in 3 hours or so.

Ok.. it's dripping all along the bottom/from the top draining towards the bottom of the transmission. They clean it and(without diy) only saw a small line of oil coming from the rear of the motor.
Thats why they assume or might be the rear main seal.

Again sorry i couldn't put up pics..no light/no visual oil drips.

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try to repair all the gasket first start from top to bottom, cam shaft seal, vtec solenoid gasket and distributor seal. my car was leaking bad before too the only seal i haven't replace is the cam shaft seal. did you notice any wet spot on the top of transmission?
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If i change the rear main seal( crank seal) NO WARRANTY!?! why? because after replacing the seal the crank shaft might need to be replaced...

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lmao your not going to have to replace the crankshaft. lol. It is hard to tell where oil is leaking from because so many thins leak on these cars after time and what the shop told you is pretty much right. It could be any of those things or it can be all of them. Id do the valve cover gasket, distributor o ring, cam seals, ft crank seal, and oil cooler oring to start. and yeah you may need a rear main seal also.
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try to repair all the gasket first start from top to bottom, cam shaft seal, vtec solenoid gasket and distributor seal. my car was leaking bad before too the only seal i haven't replace is the cam shaft seal. did you notice any wet spot on the top of transmission?
Yeah the top has old grease on it,but after i clean the top with brake cleaner and the mechanic clean also its all nice and clean now. The thing is to replace the rear main seal its 400 and im kinda low on funds right now,but i will look in to when i have the funds to replac those other seals as well. Thanks...

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lmao your not going to have to replace the crankshaft. lol. It is hard to tell where oil is leaking from because so many thins leak on these cars after time and what the shop told you is pretty much right. It could be any of those things or it can be all of them. Id do the valve cover gasket, distributor o ring, cam seals, ft crank seal, and oil cooler oring to start. and yeah you may need a rear main seal also.
Thats what a 37 yr experiance mechanic at aamco told me...thats why they don't give warranty on this job. Glad im made you laugh...lol.. but dropping 4 or 500 bucks on a car i just bought aint funny at all.
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Yeah the top has old grease on it,but after i clean the top with brake cleaner and the mechanic clean also its all nice and clean now. The thing is to replace the rear main seal its 400 and im kinda low on funds right now,but i will look in to when i have the funds to replac those other seals as well. Thanks...
we are on the same road lol. if you had grease on top before you clean it; the leak must be somewhere on top so my just opinion is fix all the seal from top first like dizzy o-ring vtec solenoid gasket and cam shaft plug those part are not that expensive probably less than 30 dollars.

that's what my mechanic told me at first he said its the main seal which is the one you telling us about but I'm still planning to fix the main seal though
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Re: Oil leak... where?

or it might be the cam seal? 11021938425 ludes always have that problem
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Re: Oil leak... where?

hmmm... is it leaking bad? ask them to put tracer dye and use a black light to see where it is coming from. Always look for leaks from top to bottom btw.
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hmmm... is it leaking bad? ask them to put tracer dye and use a black light to see where it is coming from. Always look for leaks from top to bottom btw.
No,its a minor leak... Good idea about the dye thing...thats how the dealer does it. I'm not sure if they really kn ow if its the main seal. Not going to drop 400,than they tell me its something eles. Might just take it to the dealer so they can tel me exactly whats leaking. It's comeing from the rear top and drips down the tranny,but its hard to pinn point exactly where.
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Thats what a 37 yr experiance mechanic at aamco told me...thats why they don't give warranty on this job. Glad im made you laugh...lol.. but dropping 4 or 500 bucks on a car i just bought aint funny at all.
I hear ya, but do do believe everything you hear?? I am also an ASE certified technician, for over 12 years. If you just bought the car you should of seen that it had a lot of oil leaks before you bought it, and had planed on working that into the asking price or planning to dish out more money after the purchase to fix it. Most of the o rings and gaskets and seals are pretty cheap for the most part, if you get a good manual like the helms one you might be able to do a lot of it yourself and save money.
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The best way to check if its the rear main (IMO) is take the engine stiffener off if engine oil is in there get ready to clean the hell out of the clutch housing, pressure plate, flywheel,(assuming they are still good) get the flywheel resurfaced (they seem to get glazed if enough oil has got on them) Engine stiffener can be found on the bottom of the motor bolted on between the clutch housing and oil pan if memory serves me correctly you cant miss the thing. Its ugly, but it looks like it goes there...(which it does indeed go there) I think its held on by 8 bolts.
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Left side is screaming rear main seal to me.
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Re: Oil leak... where?

speaking of oil leaks!, i just replaced my engine oil cooler gasket, and i was wondering if the main bolt had any specs to it, i.e. how many ft lbs of torque do i use to put it back on?????
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I hear ya, but do do believe everything you hear?? I am also an ASE certified technician, for over 12 years. If you just bought the car you should of seen that it had a lot of oil leaks before you bought it, and had planed on working that into the asking price or planning to dish out more money after the purchase to fix it. Most of the o rings and gaskets and seals are pretty cheap for the most part, if you get a good manual like the helms one you might be able to do a lot of it yourself and save money.
No i don't believe everthing i hear... My lude has a minor leak. Leaking lots of oil?? Yeah, i was thinking about getting a good manual.
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Left side is screaming rear main seal to me.
Could be the main seal... That seal is gona keeping leaking because i aint paying 400 bucks any time soon. Just got to keep an eye on the oil level.
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speaking of oil leaks!, i just replaced my engine oil cooler gasket, and i was wondering if the main bolt had any specs to it, i.e. how many ft lbs of torque do i use to put it back on?????
Call the dealer and ask them whats the tor spec/or just make your own tread.
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If its the rear main don't take it lightly. Learn from my mistake it was a small leak for me to at first it just gets worse then the oil dripping in the housing will without a doubt ruin your clutch which could then ruin your pressure plate and throw out bearing. Then the oil dripping out of the car while you drive will land on the cat burn there ruin/clog the cat along with both of the o2 sensors. You have just turned a $400 job into a at least $900 seeing that you use cheap parts at a good deal.
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Forgot to mention all the various problems from losing bottom end pressure, i fixed mine before i had bottom end problems fortunately. You might not be so lucky, not a matter in which i would cross my fingers. Then again you live you learn.
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If its the rear main don't take it lightly. Learn from my mistake it was a small leak for me to at first it just gets worse then the oil dripping in the housing will without a doubt ruin your clutch which could then ruin your pressure plate and throw out bearing. Then the oil dripping out of the car while you drive will land on the cat burn there ruin/clog the cat along with both of the o2 sensors. You have just turned a $400 job into a at least $900 seeing that you use cheap parts at a good deal.
The day i did the oil changed to now...the oil level is the same...Thats weird... Thats why i have a feeling its not the main seal. I need to take it to the dealer and have them inspect it with a dye so they can pin point the leak,to know for sure where its comeing from.
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^good deal let us know what they find out maybe we can get you a solution without the stealership charging an arm and leg lol. Take note that sometimes the seals swell up due to weather changes, heat, oil additives burning off in the oil its by a micrometer cant even be seen, but that can be just enough to seal. (for a while)
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please check steering gear in the left side of your lude near the crank..i had a similar problem and it was because of the steering box..
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No i don't believe everthing i hear... My lude has a minor leak. Leaking lots of oil?? Yeah, i was thinking about getting a good manual.
well if you know that your clutch hasn't been replaced in a while I would save up for a clutch kit and maybe a light fly wheel, then while your at it change the rear main seal. Do not use a screwdriver to try and pry it out. If you scar the metal make a bur or something like that it may leak even with a new seal. Be very careful when removing seals and gaskets.
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