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Is my 5th gen auto trans dieing?

Hi guys,

I have a prelude 1998 model auto. It had 140000 km on it when i bought it 1 month ago. Now it has like 142000kms.
Car was kept by a old bloke so its in very good condition aesthetically.

Having the car for 1 month now, i noticed a few little things with the transmission. I know the auto trans on these aren't too strong. So i thought to mention my car symptoms to get your opinion. To see if my transmission is dieing or not.

My car symptoms:

1. When I start the car, i put it on D4, and drive off, 1 second after the car starts moving, i hear a 1 second "grrrr" coming from somewhere underneath the car. After that it doesn't happen again. I stop the car(engine still running) and drive off again, the sound doesn't happen. I turn the car off, start it again, drive off again, then the sound happens again.

Another thing i tried is, i turned the car off, turned it on, put it on reverse, started moving the car on reverse, i heard the same 1 second "grrr". I brake to stop the car (engine still running), I shift to D4, and drive off, i dont hear the sound.

So the sound basically happens whenever the engine of the car is turned off, and then on, and then when the car starts to move (either in D4 or reverse).

Does this happen to anyone else? is it normal?

2. I turn the engine on. I put the car on D4. Its all good. But when i put it on reverse, i hear a small "clat" sound. I put it back on D4 (makes no clat sound), and then back on reverse, i hear the clat again. The sound isn't loud. But can be heard. Its a kind of "tap" sound. Is this normal?

Apart from the above mentioned symptoms, the car runs fine. Gears change normally. I dont thrash the car. Its used mainly as a cruiser going from A to B. But sometimes i do floor it to hear the vtec. So is my above symptoms normal or something bad?

Thanks for the help guys. Appreciated alot.

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Hi guys,

My car symptoms:

1. When I start the car, i put it on D4, and drive off, 1 second after the car starts moving, i hear a 1 second "grrrr" coming from somewhere underneath the car. After that it doesn't happen again. I stop the car(engine still running) and drive off again, the sound doesn't happen. I turn the car off, start it again, drive off again, then the sound happens again.

Another thing i tried is, i turned the car off, turned it on, put it on reverse, started moving the car on reverse, i heard the same 1 second "grrr". I brake to stop the car (engine still running), I shift to D4, and drive off, i dont hear the sound.

So the sound basically happens whenever the engine of the car is turned off, and then on, and then when the car starts to move (either in D4 or reverse).

Does this happen to anyone else? is it normal?

2. I turn the engine on. I put the car on D4. Its all good. But when i put it on reverse, i hear a small "clat" sound. I put it back on D4 (makes no clat sound), and then back on reverse, i hear the clat again. The sound isn't loud. But can be heard. Its a kind of "tap" sound. Is this normal?

Apart from the above mentioned symptoms, the car runs fine. Gears change normally. I dont thrash the car. Its used mainly as a cruiser going from A to B. But sometimes i do floor it to hear the vtec. So is my above symptoms normal or something bad?

Thanks for the help guys. Appreciated alot.
The "grrrrrrr" you are hearing is you ABS on your brakes. You will feel it in your brakes if your foot is on it slightly. There have been several other threads on this. As for the "clat" i belive that is normal for the auto's, i could be wrong and im sure some one else can tell you. Also here is the auto tranny fail guide. 5th Gen Auto Transmission Failure Guide
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The "grrrrrrr" you are hearing is you ABS on your brakes. You will feel it in your brakes if your foot is on it slightly.
but the "grrr" is not from the brakes. My foot is not even on the brakes. I press the accelerator and the car starts moving, about 1 second later, i then hear the "grrr". I am pretty sure its not the abs.
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Re: Is my 5th gen auto trans dieing?

its not your actual brake's making the sound...its the anti lock brake system "ABS" making the sound...all of the 5th gens do it, mine has from day 1 when i got it. that is nothing to worry about. mine also does it in reverse as you said.
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Re: Is my 5th gen auto trans dieing?

so it only happens once when u start and move the car right?

if i stop the car (with engine running) and then drive off again, it doesn't happen. Is this same with u?
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I can say that #1 happens to me as well. And I have a manual. Beaker(mod here, local to me) said his does it too and told me what it was, can't remember but flipper is most likely right no worries mate.

And if I had to take a guess the "clat" sound is just the gear engaging. whenever I throw my manny into reverse there is a clat that is louder than all of the other gears.


TBH you haven't described any of the typical symptoms of a bad tranny so I think you're good. Paranoia with a car will drive you crazy, so unless you KNOW something is wrong and it starts doing DIFFERENT things don't worry about it. You'll drive yourself nuts. Plus being new to the car you probably don't have the best feel for the car yet. but that's neither here nor there. honestly I think you're good bro :bigthumbup:
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Re: Is my 5th gen auto trans dieing?

if your worried abt the tranny first drain the fluid an put new honda atf fluid. DONT GO CHEAP ON DAT, BUY THE HONDA BRAND.
Next wid that kind of mileage i would get a tranny cooler jus cuz it will help decrease the internal temp of the tranny, which is always a good thing.
the grr noise u have it sounds similar to a sound i hear from my car wen i back out of the drive way an pull off, but it only last for 3seconds and then its gone. i hear mine on the front of the car, but since my car was hit in the front it could have been caused by the accident.

if ur not hearing a tickin noise coming from the tranny then u shouldnt worry because that noise means the tranny could be going.

also if u floor it to hear vtec jus make sure u check ur oil on the regular cause wid dat kind of mileage u mite pass a little oil, even though pretty much everyone passes it because of the mileage you may have a worn seal or something an pass a little more than usual.

JUST dont do a tranny flush, dont try to clean it inside some people have an they run into even more problems. jus change the fluid and you should be fine


if your still reall worried i'll post the link for the auto-tranny fail guide for u an you can see if any of those issues u may have.
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u had me convinced when #2 u said from d4 to reverse you hear a "clat" happened to me on two auto trannys so yup deff might be going soon.. try being parked and shift from P down to R see if you still hear the clat or a grind r any other noise, then let me know but im pretty sure its starting to best thing to do is swtich the tranny fluid so its fresh and either save up$$ for a swap or start thinking of buying a used auto to give u time again to save money for the swap.
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dude its ur abs noob lol that what it is for sure..
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The "grrrrrrr" you are hearing is you ABS on your brakes. You will feel it in your brakes if your foot is on it slightly. There have been several other threads on this. As for the "clat" i belive that is normal for the auto's, i could be wrong and im sure some one else can tell you. Also here is the auto tranny fail guide. 5th Gen Auto Transmission Failure Guide
i never herd a clat on auto tranny.. but idk

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I can say that #1 happens to me as well. And I have a manual. Beaker(mod here, local to me) said his does it too and told me what it was, can't remember but flipper is most likely right no worries mate.

And if I had to take a guess the "clat" sound is just the gear engaging. whenever I throw my manny into reverse there is a clat that is louder than all of the other gears.


TBH you haven't described any of the typical symptoms of a bad tranny so I think you're good. Paranoia with a car will drive you crazy, so unless you KNOW something is wrong and it starts doing DIFFERENT things don't worry about it. You'll drive yourself nuts. Plus being new to the car you probably don't have the best feel for the car yet. but that's neither here nor there. honestly I think you're good bro :bigthumbup:

tru you need more symptoms to be sure its the tranny so just keep that clat in kind and if you experience rough shifting thats another symptom...
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Re: Is my 5th gen auto trans dieing?

I was happy when Lazer said its fine and not to worry about it.

But when soto2635 said its time for tranny change, I've worried again. :(

soto2635, Lazer said that "clat" happens with his manual trans as well. So could it just be a gear changing sound?
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I was happy when Lazer said its fine and not to worry about it.

But when soto2635 said its time for tranny change, I've worried again. :(

soto2635, Lazer said that "clat" happens with his manual trans as well. So could it just be a gear changing sound?

well in my 5spd yeah i hear the clat when i put it in reverse like most manual cars you hear a clat of the gear engagging but with an auto never herd a clat until my tranny was going and it did a clat and grinded gears.

**but overall my best advice would be dont worry much just keep it in mind and if something else happens, come back and ask again with the next problem and we can see if it can be connected with anything else witht he tranny failure.***
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it happen to my car too i believe that its normal.
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