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Clutch and Flywheel Install

Well i searched the forum for any useful tips and got a few but not really what i was looking for. This will be my first clutch job (01 lude SH) and im sure there are plenty of guys(maybe some girls??) here who have replaced their clutch and flywheel before. i saw this vid on youtube of the guy telling what his speedracer daughter did to her lude clutch and he really didnt have much to offer procedure wise... so any tips on procedures or things to look out for during the project would be pretty legit Its scheduled to be delivered Wednesday of next week and i want to get it done because i live in the Houston area and those of you that also live here im sure you know Import Reactor is next weekend so wanna try to have it done by then so i can drive my lude. the clutch is the ACT xtreme 6 puck sprung clutch kit, and the flywheel is by Fidanza, 8lbs. thanks for the help.

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Re: Clutch and Flywheel Install

its a big job, you better know what your getting yourself into. with the right tools it'll take about 5-6 hours. w/o the right tools.... days. weeks.


the FSM pretty much covers the entire disassembly/reinstall. altho it does sugercoat alot, like the axle nut for instance.
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Re: Clutch and Flywheel Install

ya i think im pretty set. just looking for a few tips from ppl who have done it before.
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Re: Clutch and Flywheel Install

Well i've not done just a clutch job on the lude, but i've replaced engine in my del sol (d15b7) and the prelude i just bought (97 type SH, came with a ****ed up piston and block...shattered piston wtf, was cheap as balls though ahha). I've also done just the clutch on the del sol, similar procedure basically. Grab the helms it has it all in there in impeccable detail. And yeah have the right tools is essential.


Basic procedure for the SH:
Jack car up
Both wheels off (yes both, you gotta remove the atts!, its gay i know)
Ball joints off (this is the mother ****er) The SH has 2 ball joints, one for radius rod (which is normally screwed to the Lower control arm) and one for the Lower control arm, both on the bottom of the wheel hub. You dont want to **** your lower ball joints, and you dont want to waste time and $$ on tools, so GET THE RIGHT TOOL, its in the helms, you can order it from honda. Believe me i ended up taking off the lower control arm from the back, and disconnecting the damper and radius rod bushing to get the axles out, its a pain in the ass
After axles out of trans/atts, take off that ATTS
Place jack under engine oil pan (you're oging to need to remove crossbeam, exhaust etc details...)
remove rear mount from trans side, remove the trans mount with jack under it, lower it down, voila, you're there, do the clutch

Note to keep in mind, do your rear main seal while down there :P
Torque flywheel bolts in sequence a little bit at a time, meaning go from 8ft/lbs in the star pattern, then 15, 25, etc till they're tight
Same with the pressure plate bolts (GET 12sided sockets!)

Final tip,notquiteatip....Putting the ATTS back on is such an arduous task, i wouldnt want to do it from under the car, i did it with my engine sitting on a palate and that was tough... (note Transmission on FIRST, then put ATTS on)

good luck, right tools and right procedures and you'll have it done quickly
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Re: Clutch and Flywheel Install

i dropped the tranny out from the bottum. took me and another guy who has done that on other cars and it took us 12 hours. but thats with meal breaks and we broke some stuff so had to run ot the city to grab parts.

next time i think i might just pull the whole motor.
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Nah, honestly pulling the whole motor is a lot more work, and most of the hard stuff is what you need to do anyway to pull JUST the transmission haha, the rest of removing engine can take you even longer than that if you hit more problems :P It took me and my 2 non-mechanic friends 2 weeks (working long weekends and 3-4 hours during the week) to replace this engine
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yea just drop the tranny side an work from the bottom thats how i did mine.

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Re: Clutch and Flywheel Install

^^haha thanks for the tips they will def help out alot. my ATTS light is on already and i dont know why. ill prob pull the codes before i do it and see whats up. if its plain shot would it be smarter to just leave it off or what? is that an option?
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No no, you cant leave it off. Unless you feel like fabbing up an adapter plate, getting an intermediat shaft, and getting a base manual transmission. The m2u4 transmission (the one in the Type SH) NEEDS the ATTS, its a pain in the ass but just get it done haha. Pull the codes (i'd rent a scanner from autozone, i have one but they're not exactly cheap) and clear them, if they come back look into the problems
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^^haha thanks for the tips they will def help out alot. my ATTS light is on already and i dont know why. ill prob pull the codes before i do it and see whats up. if its plain shot would it be smarter to just leave it off or what? is that an option?
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its a big job, you better know what your getting yourself into. with the right tools it'll take about 5-6 hours. w/o the right tools.... days. weeks.


the FSM pretty much covers the entire disassembly/reinstall. altho it does sugercoat alot, like the axle nut for instance.
Ha, ha , yeah X2. Good luck breaking that thing loose. I broke two 1/2 inch lever bars on my brother's old 3rd Gen. You would have thought I was trying to pull the crank pulley. I don't recommend impact wrench unless you have some nuts behind it. My compressor was just too small.
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all you really need for Axle nuts + crank pulley bolt is a nice breaker bar or impact gun. Buddy of mine has a 300ft/lbs electric impact (300 in 270 out), my own compressor only gets 180psi so i was having problems w/ bolt. If that doesnt work though, a nice solid breaker bar and some muscle gets it done all the time.

Tip: dont worry about axle nuts doing clutch, just take it off the trans side; Also if you are doing axle replacement and you keep turning the wheel trying to get the nuts off, stick a solid screwdriver in the ribbing of the rotor, between the brake bracket (with the brakes still on, hell you can do most of this job w/o taking the brakes off)
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this was a nightmare for me, had to remove all the support bars under that block the tranny from coming straight down. had the axel removed, atts removed, then tranny came down. The longest part of doing an SH clutch job is removing everything up top first, then removing everything blocking the trans on the bottom. After you replace the clutch, trans goes on first then ATTS unit (correct me if i'm wrong). Took a couple of days on/off but it got done.
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this was a nightmare for me, had to remove all the support bars under that block the tranny from coming straight down. had the axel removed, atts removed, then tranny came down. The longest part of doing an SH clutch job is removing everything up top first, then removing everything blocking the trans on the bottom. After you replace the clutch, trans goes on first then ATTS unit (correct me if i'm wrong). Took a couple of days on/off but it got done.

Yeah ATTS on second, when coming off its first off. Primarily due to the fact that the ATTS blocks the ability to take out one of the transmission mount bolts.
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How much easier is it replace the clutch and flywheel in the base? Like a 5 hour job compared to 8 hour?
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pretty much, thats about what it is in AllData and Mitchell Labor Guides
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I just had my clutch and flywheel done this week. I stayed with a stage 2 carbon kevlar disk clutch and only dropped down to an 11lb flywheel (both parts made by Competition) but i'm loving the difference, it's smoother and feels a tad quicker. I didn't do it myself sadly since i'm stuck at school still but it's definatly worth the effort!
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How much easier is it replace the clutch and flywheel in the base? Like a 5 hour job compared to 8 hour?
with help and the right tools, it should be a relatively quick job. The hard part is finding what to disconnect up top in the engine bay, and the bottom part is much easier, just remember where every bolt goes when you take it out.
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Re: Clutch and Flywheel Install

thanks for the input guys. finished it over a week ago. went really smoothly. car runs great right from first start. only problem is where the ATTS goes into the bell housing, there is a VERY small tranny oil leak. how can i stop this? i topped it off monday after leaking for a week and i could barely put anymore in but i still want it fixed.
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You probably damaged the axle seal when removing or replacing the axle.
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