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Will Euro r h22 motor and tranny swap into a 2001 base prelude?
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Re: Euro R motor swap

yes, their practacally the same engine and tranny as a si vtec prelude
so straight in id say
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Re: Euro R motor swap

I Can find the motors from 3-4k.. how much to get the motor and tranny installed Guestimate??
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you will need to do some rewiring and an ecu for that swap. where are you located?
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Re: Euro R motor swap

Well the wiring and ecu come with the motors and tranny setups that I'm lookin at and I'm in st. Louis MO, how much for install of motor tranny and ecu guestimate ?
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Re: Euro R motor swap

I'm in tulsa ok n a shop (Humble Performance) said 1500 to install an h22a in my 95 Si. That's labor n tune. Parts is another 1000-1500. Not cheap
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Re: Euro R motor swap

The motors I have looked at are a full motor electrical and tranny there's no way that its another 1500 for parts ! What parts ? Install is not bad for 1500
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The motors I have looked at are a full motor electrical and tranny there's no way that its another 1500 for parts ! What parts ? Install is not bad for 1500
he means everything that they will F#ck up while doing the swap and you will have to pay for
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WOW. i charge 650- to install a motor and tranny swap ... w/ the wiring neccessary. 1500 is ridiculous.
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Re: Euro R motor swap

That is encouraging to know some places charge 650. I want to get this motor rather than build a stock h22 motor
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That is encouraging to know some places charge 650. I want to get this motor rather than build a stock h22 motor
you do realize theyre relatively the same engine? h23 has a lower redline and like 2 more ftlbs
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you do realize theyre relatively the same engine? h23 has a lower redline and like 2 more ftlbs
yes but your not taking into acct the longer stroke,as in the difference in power band.
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the engines look pretty similiar stock on the dyno
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Re: Euro R motor swap

Where does the H23 come in? The Euro-R had an H22. H23A VTEC was in the AWD wagon.

Euro-R got P5P (Type S) pistons with a PDE head. Also got the improved IM and electric power steering. Also comes with an LSD trans. The Type R also got PDE pistons and rods.
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Re: Euro R motor swap

i got a quote for 2k for that swap into my 4th gen w usdm tranny, but i think im mite save for lsd .

its supposed to have more torque then the h22 but the h22 is better at high revs
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Where does the H23 come in? The Euro-R had an H22. H23A VTEC was in the AWD wagon.

Euro-R got P5P (Type S) pistons with a PDE head. Also got the improved IM and electric power steering. Also comes with an LSD trans. The Type R also got PDE pistons and rods.
good catch man. got confused with the euro r and the accord sir. my mistake
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Re: Euro R motor swap

Regular SiR got the F20B DOHC VTEC, which as a point of interest has a shorter stroke than the H22. Far as I know the H23A VTEC only came in the SiR AWD wagon, also only available in auto, although of course you can use an F/H series (not including S2000) manual transmission with it.

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Re: Euro R motor swap

nah shop said flat out 1500 just top swap n drop h22a in. then quoted me another 1500 to get a motor shipped. needless to say i said f**k that lol. Im goin to talk to a shop on wed about another g build....miss my car haha
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you do realize theyre relatively the same engine? h23 has a lower redline and like 2 more ftlbs
yes it is and if your prelude is vtec in any way, you dont need to change jack ****, just drop it in

if not the only loom you need to change is the engine bay,
you could get a harness for the ecu and save yourself a lot of ****
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nah shop said flat out 1500 just top swap n drop h22a in. then quoted me another 1500 to get a motor shipped. needless to say i said f**k that lol. Im goin to talk to a shop on wed about another g build....miss my car haha
good choice, you could buy a prelude vtec for that much money
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Re: Euro R motor swap

I wouldnt be gettin this motor until after summer so in the mean time i was thinking about doing seafoam. I have a cel that read random cylinder misfire and all cylinder misfire , shop said that the intake needed to be boiled( as some of you know aha) but would this be a good idea to maybe unclog the intake and ill just clean the egr myself ? if it doesnt work im just gonna take the IM off and clean it myself as best i can and hope that solves the problem...
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Never hurts to try. If it doesnt work get it hot tanked. I cleaned my EGR with a can of brake cleaner and two picks. Solved my misfire issues.

Edit: That shop must use gold plated bolts or something. The local shop here will do a same motor swap for 500-650 with a 1-2 day turnaround. Greed is never good.

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Thanks for all the help guys I am sooo glad I joined this site. There is like a pride I have to driving this car, even though people have done more or have crazy A** setups (that I envy, but will HAVE!) I still love the car how it is and it can only get better. My parents want me to get somethin new just because this one little problem but i am determined to keep it. Long live my prelude...
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Thanks for all the help guys I am sooo glad I joined this site. There is like a pride I have to driving this car, even though people have done more or have crazy A** setups (that I envy, but will HAVE!) I still love the car how it is and it can only get better. My parents want me to get somethin new just because this one little problem but i am determined to keep it. Long live my prelude...
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