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Manual Trans wont go into gear!!!! HELP!

So my trans has started to act up on me and doesnt want to go into 3rd gear or out of it sometimes when the car is warmed up. When I "kick it down" into third gear going 50mph it wont go in or I have to punch it into 3rd to make it go in.

Here are some things I did. Changed the MTF fluid and put in a brand new clutch master cylinder. It seems to be a little better but not much. Can someone tell me what might be going on?


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Re: Manual Trans wont go into gear!!!! HELP!

What's the clutch pedal like? Do you have to pump it? When you installed the new master cylinder did you adjust it?
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Re: Manual Trans wont go into gear!!!! HELP!

Maybe there's not enough fluids in your cylinder n that's why you get locked in or out of that gear?!?!
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Re: Manual Trans wont go into gear!!!! HELP!

if its only 3rd gear then it might me an internal tranny problem
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Re: Manual Trans wont go into gear!!!! HELP!

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What's the clutch pedal like? Do you have to pump it? When you installed the new master cylinder did you adjust it?
After the master cylinder install it has never felt better. and I watched the slave cylnder and it looks like it comes out all the way so idk...

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if its only 3rd gear then it might me an internal tranny problem
It tends to be any gears but usually happens badly in third.

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Maybe there's not enough fluids in your cylinder n that's why you get locked in or out of that gear?!?!
Trust me. I flushed the system and made sure there was enough fluid in it.
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Re: Manual Trans wont go into gear!!!! HELP!

I wish I had a 5spd just so i could help out....:crying:
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Re: Manual Trans wont go into gear!!!! HELP!

You need to adjust the master cylinder man. All you have to do is turn it and adjust the nut that holds it in place.
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Re: Manual Trans wont go into gear!!!! HELP!

A good way to eliminate clutch problem is shift into 3rd while the car is off a couple of times. If its still feels like its harder to engage then the other gears then you my friend have a transmission issue. If not then chances are it will be the clutch. Not to say it may not be the transmission aswell.
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Re: Manual Trans wont go into gear!!!! HELP!

Today I am going to try that shifting thing without the car turned off later today.

Last night I was driving and it seemed to be okay but once I "kicked it down" to 2nd doing 40mph the car jumped and the clutch pedal seemed to be bouncy and just felt very strange....
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Re: Manual Trans wont go into gear!!!! HELP!

Your synchro is screwed, same exact thing happened to mine...that was 3rd gear too now that I think about it.
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Re: Manual Trans wont go into gear!!!! HELP!

Well I didn't get a chance to mess with it today but tomorrow I am going to take it to a transmission shop down the block from my house and see what they say.
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Re: Manual Trans wont go into gear!!!! HELP!

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Your synchro is screwed, same exact thing happened to mine...that was 3rd gear too now that I think about it.
How hard is it to replace the syncro's usually.
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Re: Manual Trans wont go into gear!!!! HELP!

Gearbox out and a full strip down.....Not a cheap fix.....Well not in Aus anyway..
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Re: Manual Trans wont go into gear!!!! HELP!

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After the master cylinder install it has never felt better. and I watched the slave cylnder and it looks like it comes out all the way so idk...



It tends to be any gears but usually happens badly in third.


Trust me. I flushed the system and made sure there was enough fluid in it.
Did you bleed the line? Sounds like you have all kinds of air in the system.

Unless you changed the master and still did not fix the problem, so you didn't know if you had an internal problem or not? Did your gears grind at all when changing gears before you changed the master cylinder?

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Did you bleed the line? Sounds like you have all kinds of air in the system.

Unless you changed the master and still did not fix the problem, so you didn't know if you had an internal problem or not? Did your gears grind at all when changing gears before you changed the master cylinder?
Me and a buddy properly bleed the line till all the old fluid was out and nothing but clear brake fluid came out and until we had a good pedal feel.

The gears never once grind before I put this new master cylinder in. To me it seems to be that I have a much worse problem actually getting into gear than the gear grinding.

Also... sometimes when I am at a stop light it will just stay in neutral, no matter how hard i try and jam it in... the only time it will come out of neutral is when i rev it up to 3k and shove it in first.
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Re: Manual Trans wont go into gear!!!! HELP!

Update: Just took my car down a few blocks to the grocery store and noticed that 1st gear doesnt seem like it is grabbing all the way from a dead stop and the clutch pedal likes to vibrate. I shifted in 1,2,3,4, and 5 with the car off in the parking lot for about 5 min and NOT ONCE did it not go into gear. (Even reverse was fine) Now I am starting to lean that this is a clutch issue but I am not 100% sure yet.
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Re: Manual Trans wont go into gear!!!! HELP!

Well to close this thread up.. I guess the clutch was just very worn down.

I brought the car into a professional trans shop and had them test drive it and they said the clutch was bad... they wanted 900 bucks JUST FOR THE CLUTCH! I said no to that and brought it to a local honda mechanic and got the new clutch in for $300. No more sticky shifting.!!!!
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Re: Manual Trans wont go into gear!!!! HELP!

Sounded like your shaking clutch pedal is due to a bad throw out bearing which is very common. If your were to change the throw out bearing might as well change the clutch, it is right there next to it.
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Sounded like your shaking clutch pedal is due to a bad throw out bearing which is very common. If your were to change the throw out bearing might as well change the clutch, it is right there next to it.
You I believe are right sir, not to mention that probably the pressure plate is just plain exhausted.

$900 does that include labor? is that for a OEM replacement or did you look at something aftermarket?
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Re: Manual Trans wont go into gear!!!! HELP!

Its probably aftermarket, Dealers don't always use OEM parts especially when its not easonable for a item like the clutch. Throw out bearing is probably OEM, I got a exedy OEM Clutch kit with pressure plate, clutch, throw out bearing for $140.
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Re: Manual Trans wont go into gear!!!! HELP!

It was stock clutch repair WITHOUT labor for $900 so I am guessing around and extra $400 with labor. But the problem is all solved now, LIKE I STATED and I have no more problems. The guy who put in the wrench time said the clutch was badly worn out and so was the throw out bearing.
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