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general timing problems

i am new to the Prelude scene. and i searched for about 30 minutes and didnt find anything on this. i am in the middle of a purchase of a 2001 H22 Automatic.
i know automatics suck, but i've NEVER seen a 5 spd for sale around here, and i've been lookin for a while this is the first Prelude i've seen for sale in about 3 years.

ANYWAY, i have some questions about the timing assemblies on these cars. how often do they need attention/replacing and how would i find a manual adjuster for a H23? what car would that be on? most parts stores around here couldn't tell you who makes a Chevrolet 350 engine. so i know that they wouldnt know what car a H23 would be in, and honestly i'm new to the car scene i've been more into toyota 4wd's and i dont know what car the H23 comes in. any advice or info on this would be much appreciated!

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Re: general timing problems

theres a website that sells the whole h23 manual tensioner kit for about 90
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theres a website that sells the whole h23 manual tensioner kit for about 90
just gonna say, that post fails. he already said he tryed searching.. why not post up a link for him..

heres the kit that he was talking about
Manual Tensioner Conversion Kit for H22A Series Engines :: Timing Belt Tensioner :: Belts :: Import Replacement Parts
and heres a picture, step by step of how to install it.
H22 auto tensioner to manual tensioner conversion
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Re: general timing problems

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i am new to the Prelude scene. and i searched for about 30 minutes and didnt find anything on this. i am in the middle of a purchase of a 2001 H22 Automatic.
i know automatics suck, but i've NEVER seen a 5 spd for sale around here, and i've been lookin for a while this is the first Prelude i've seen for sale in about 3 years.

ANYWAY, i have some questions about the timing assemblies on these cars. how often do they need attention/replacing and how would i find a manual adjuster for a H23? what car would that be on? most parts stores around here couldn't tell you who makes a Chevrolet 350 engine. so i know that they wouldnt know what car a H23 would be in, and honestly i'm new to the car scene i've been more into toyota 4wd's and i dont know what car the H23 comes in. any advice or info on this would be much appreciated!

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Re: general timing problems

the only car that originally has a h23 motor in it would be the 4rth gen prelude 92-96
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Re: general timing problems

Generally you'll only need to replace the auto tensioner when you replace the timing belt. For some reason they will sit with pressure on them a decade, but as soon as you remove the pressure on it by removing the belt the seals fail. A H23 tensioner is good piece of mind though.

If you plan on buying auto, make sure you keep fresh fluid in it. I will be changing mine almost every time I change teh engine oil from now on.
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Re: general timing problems

well i didnt try searching the internet(DUUUUHH why didnt i think of that) i searched the pz site. thank you for the info. My grandfather (who is the one helpin me buy the car) is who asked about the timing. the car has 167,000 miles on it. should i be leery of checking the timing on it regularly, like i said earlier i've been into toyota motors and at 170 they like to get loose and come apart. when or should i expect this?
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Re: general timing problems

There's a guy on here who's up over 200k miles and still going strong.

Keep up with your general maintenance (oil, filters, plugs, valve clearences) and the thing will likely run forever. Barring catastrophic fk up like misshifting from 4th to 1st or driving at WOT through a lake of course.
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Re: general timing problems

it has 167,000 miles, i'm gettin it today and a guy GIVE me a wrecked car just like it with no motor or tranny with new tires, complete stainless header and exhaust, and several other things. so i'll be workin on it most this weekend. i have no clue if the valves have been adjusted since new or not. would it be smart to check those this weekend?
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Re: general timing problems

Do u have a record of all the work that has been done on the car? Timing belts on the h22 from my experience can be frustrating. If the car is running good why mess with it. What year is that car?
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Do u have a record of all the work that has been done on the car? Timing belts on the h22 from my experience can be frustrating. If the car is running good why mess with it. What year is that car?
no i do not have records of anything other than the parts the man bought and i put in and the last oil change.



EXACTLY thats why i was asking. because i dont know what one that is %100
runs like, so i dont know how tight mine is running, they dont clatter, but i dont know if that means anything on these cars.



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Re: general timing problems

how does the car run, the computer is constantly adjusting spark timing and what not the timing itself can not be adjusted if i remember correct. at least not like an american v-8. how many miles does the car have. if u take off the valve cover the cam gears will be on the right. give the belt a good inspection if its frayed and what not then i would worry. a good running car should be a nice driver. has the car been modded at all? i like starting with an unmolested car!
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Re: general timing problems

167,000 miles, the only mods to the car is a short ram intake, and i got a OBX ceramic header for it this weekend. and i will most likely go with a skunk2 exhaust, and after that i'm prally just gonna drive it.
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Re: general timing problems

and since this is my thread, i gues i can change the subject, where can i order a good set of header gaskets from to fit OBX headers?????
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well the header is prob the same size as stock so i would assume a stock gasket will treat u right man. i would say try to keep the resonater. when my car was running domestic guys gave me props, i kinda had a vr6 worrble to it.
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Re: general timing problems

well can someone tell me this, how much more performance is an aftermarket header, the stock manifold looks perty bad-a to me.

AND i've got a stock exhaust off an sh model that i'm gonna try to put on my car, and i found out that the header i got was cracked but it was free so i'm not worried about it. whats the sh gonna sound like?
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Re: general timing problems

after alot of work the header will give you more gains. honda started with a good one in my opinion. you got a bumper for sale
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if u have an sh exhaust i would try and just change the muffler out. my car sounded deeze when i was driving it.
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Re: general timing problems

i have a rear bumper cover, its silver, not in %100 shape but not bad shape at all, and i think the rear bumper itself and the front bumper are still in tact, which you need?
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Re: general timing problems

front but in black, mine came off and is held up with wire ties. u got a clutch and flywheel by any chance
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i dont have the front bumper cover, it got destroyed in the wreck, and i dont have any motor parts. but i do have a lambo door kit for 5th gens, and MANY black interior parts
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