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Had the timing belt done and problem...

Okay so I am a little lost here that is why im asking you guys. I had my timing belt and water pump done about...3 weeks ago or so, after my car started leaking a little oil but it was no biggy to me because it had done that in the past because they over filled it. A week ago I noticed a large amount of oil on someones driveway I had only been parked on for about 10 hours so I took it to jiffy lube with almost no oil and had them check it out. THey said they thought it was the rear crank shaft seal. Now im completely broke and have no money to pay for this. So my question is, did the timing belt and waterpump maintainence bring on this problem and could I tell the shop who did my timing belt to fix it as there was no problem previous to this? Advice would be much appreciated. Thanks
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Re: Had the timing belt done and problem...

The only reason I could see the maintenance bringing that on is because if they over-filled it with oil, the excess oil pressure caused the rear main seal to burst (if that's actually what is leaking). That's just my .02 Someone with more knowledge might be able to help you.
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Okay so I am a little lost here that is why im asking you guys. I had my timing belt and water pump done about...3 weeks ago or so, after my car started leaking a little oil but it was no biggy to me because it had done that in the past because they over filled it. A week ago I noticed a large amount of oil on someones driveway I had only been parked on for about 10 hours so I took it to jiffy lube with almost no oil and had them check it out. THey said they thought it was the rear crank shaft seal. Now im completely broke and have no money to pay for this. So my question is, did the timing belt and waterpump maintainence bring on this problem and could I tell the shop who did my timing belt to fix it as there was no problem previous to this? Advice would be much appreciated. Thanks
I have seen some people do some really stupid things when working on a vehicle, anything is possible. If the place that did the work is a reputable place, I would just go and talk to them and tell em that now your vehicle is pouring oil out. What is on your side is the fact that if your main seal or anything else was pouring oil, it would have been noted and the shop would have tried to sell you that repair.

I highly doubt they are going to fix your car for free, but they may work out a deal with you. Best luck to you.
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Re: Had the timing belt done and problem...

your seriously going to trust goofy lube to tell you whats wrong with your car????only the biggest idiots in the world work there. sry to any of you if u do. but i work at toyota and just this week we had two cars come in b.c of **** jiffy lubes has ****ed up. im sry but they are retarded.
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your seriously going to trust goofy lube to tell you whats wrong with your car????only the biggest idiots in the world work there. sry to any of you if u do. but i work at toyota and just this week we had two cars come in b.c of **** jiffy lubes has ****ed up. im sry but they are retarded.
Well regardless, he still has a major oil leak lol.
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Re: Had the timing belt done and problem...

true but the point of my post was to say... go to a shop that knows their ass from a hole in the ground lol
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true but the point of my post was to say... go to a shop that knows their ass from a hole in the ground lol
I figured that was your point but thought you might have just been on a rant about how much you hated them
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Re: Had the timing belt done and problem...

Alright so I just got back from a 70 mile drive, with a dripping oil leak and lost probably 3 quarts in the process. Added a quart halfway and drove the rest of the way to the shop. So my friend said he doesnt think its the rear crankshaft seal but i have no idea. Tell me if im right. If im looking at the engine from the front of the car it would be to the right of the area that i poor oil in and towards the back of the engine right? That is where it appears to be leaking from and where "goofy lube" told me it was lol. My friend who puts jeep engines together told me he thinks its their fault (mechanic who did the timing belt replacement along with a few other belts). Anyways it only leaks when i drive and it leaks ALOT after I drive, but if it just sits there parked it doesnt seem to leak alot.
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Re: Had the timing belt done and problem...

Yeah dude that's not your rear main seal. The rear main seal is on the other side of the engine (transmission side). So I would guess it's your main seal or the oil cooler seal as I think the oil cooler is over there and from what I've read that's pretty common. I would search around as I think there are a few threads on that.
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Re: Had the timing belt done and problem...

Hey thanks alot guys for the advice, if anyone else has any advice let me know. Also does that change the possibility that it wasent the mechanic who did my timing belt that caused it? (couldnt figure out how to word that, what i mean is could it have been the mechanics fault?)
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Re: Had the timing belt done and problem...

In fact it makes it even more of a possibility, because the timing belt actually goes on the crank shaft (which is where the main seal is). Normally when the timing belt is changed, so is the main seal. However, if you read some other similar threads, most of everybody's problem is the oil cooler seal (which like I said, I'm pretty sure it's located on that same side). Now I don't really know anything about that as I have a 3rd gen and it doesn't have an oil cooler (if it does, then that just goes to show you how much I know... lol). If I were you I would just take it to the same shop you got the timing belt changed and tell them what happened and if it's their fault, then they should fix it (at least I would hope). I mean, you're going to have to take it back there anyway, right? I'm really hoping some of the other guys chime in as they would know more about your problem. What year is your car?
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Re: Had the timing belt done and problem...

well the oil cooler is the back of the motor. behind the oil filter plate. i would take it back to the place u got it serviced and have them look at it.
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Re: Had the timing belt done and problem...

Hopefully you already saw it, but here is a thread with a similar problem: This week has sucked.. Need some parts and help..

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Yeah dude that's not your rear main seal. The rear main seal is on the other side of the engine (transmission side). So I would guess it's your main seal or the oil cooler seal as I think the oil cooler is over there and from what I've read that's pretty common. I would search around as I think there are a few threads on that.

this is correct. the rear main seal is behind the flywheel. the front main seal is right behind the timing belt.


if it is indeed from near the timing belt side, there's alotta seals over there; front main, front balancer shaft, or camshaft seals. the only way to tell is by taking both the timing covers off and snoop around to see where its coming from.


i have a very strong feeling (cuz i've seen/heard it done before numerous times) that the shop forgot to replace the front balancer seal RETAINER, so the seal popped out.
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Re: Had the timing belt done and problem...

Hey thanks alot guys I really appreciate it, im takin it to the shop today and figuring it out!
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Re: Had the timing belt done and problem...

So the shop called me today and told me it was there fault, i dont know what it was but I did catch the word gasket. So good news =) Thanks for the help guys. FREE REPAIR =)
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Re: Had the timing belt done and problem...

So I walk into the auto shop to get my car back, my honda emblem on the back is missing. I ask them about it and they say it was gone when they received it...Bull crap but whatever I can handle it. So I take my car home, and driving it starts leaking oil just like it did before...They said they had fixed the gasket and put a new one in. And now my check engine light is on also...Getting tired of this. Any suggestions? And by the way it only really leaks after drivin, and probably while being driving.
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Re: Had the timing belt done and problem...

Go raise hell at that shop and then find a new shop. Honda did the timing belt on my accord, and when I brought it to my mechanic he said there is a very small leak I think at the main seal. Funny even the honda dealer isn't perfect.
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Re: Had the timing belt done and problem...

Okay so I took it back and they said its leaking in the same spot, they said that they put a Brand new OEM gasket on and that it is most likely the head is warped or something. So he said they will need to take the thing that says honda vtec off and either shave it down so it sits flush or see if they can get a new one if it is too warped. I got a pic of where the oil leak is coming from. It is about 3 or 4 inches down from the arrow in that hole.
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Re: Had the timing belt done and problem...

Based on your pictures, sounds like it might be a cam seal. Perhaps they nicked it while installing the timing belt.
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maybe im slow but im confused at what they are gonna try to shave down
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they said that they put a Brand new OEM gasket on and that it is most likely the head is warped or something. So he said they will need to take the thing that says honda vtec off and either shave it down so it sits flush or see if they can get a new one if it is too warped.
I guess he means they have to take the valve cover off and shave down the head? I'm so confused, I thought it was your main seal that was leaking .
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Re: Had the timing belt done and problem...

No man im slow, I have no idea what he is talking about when he tells me I just catch some words. All i know is they are going to take off my valve cover and shave down whatever sits on the gasket...dont ask me what gasket...Thats all i know. Either way they are doing it for free. So as long as they dont keep messin **** up it will be okay =). I will just keep getting free parts till they find out what the problem is.
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Re: Had the timing belt done and problem...


My personal experience: (best followed in order listed)

-Don't take your car back to them to fix it.
-Request a written statement of what was repaired as well as how it was repaired, along with a detailed description of what new problem they caused
-Request your money back in its entirety; stating that they did not fix it right the first or second time....maybe i got lost in the sauce a third time possibly...
-Raise lots of hell till you have money in hand
-Take your vehicle to a different shop
-And bring the new estimate for repairs to the old shop and basically explain that if they dont front the difference that legal action will be taken
-Smile as you leave knowing, they would rather satisfy you than show up to work the next day only to find a few standing bricks and a smoldering pile of ashes and burning tires.
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Re: Had the timing belt done and problem...

i have a leak from that area as well and i been told its from the o ring where the oil filter sits

but i think its b.c my head is warped from the timing belt snapping ohh idk 3 times..LOL!
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Hahaha, thats funny (the last post), and how the hell did you snap 3 timing belts and still have a car to show for it. I dont know alot but i've heard that snapping a timing belt is a good way to pretty much total your car. Thats why I got it done, thinking I'd be better off and have piece of mind...I got exactly the opposite of this.
As for Ludacriss's post...I completely understand that maybe that is the best thing to do. But honestly they are being completely chill about fixing things for free and are helping me as much as possible. For that fact I think I will give them a chance. Now I will immediately do exactly as you said as soon as I start hearing excuses or attitude at all from them. Or if the ordeal takes longer then a month or so to figure out. But the fact of the matter is I dont have money to take legal action if I wanted and from my experience the small guy usually loses out on these sort of things anyways.

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Re: Had the timing belt done and problem...

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Hahaha, thats funny (the last post), and how the hell did you snap 3 timing belts and still have a car to show for it. I dont know alot but i've heard that snapping a timing belt is a good way to pretty much total your car. Thats why I got it done, thinking I'd be better off and have piece of mind...I got exactly the opposite of this.
As for Ludacriss's post...I completely understand that maybe that is the best thing to do. But honestly they are being completely chill about fixing things for free and are helping me as much as possible. For that fact I think I will give them a chance. Now I will immediately do exactly as you said as soon as I start hearing excuses or attitude at all from them. Or if the ordeal takes longer then a month or so to figure out. But the fact of the matter is I dont have money to take legal action if I wanted and from my experience the small guy usually loses out on these sort of things anyways.

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Was a suggestion...Not sure how much of a car they gonna return to you though...but keep us posted...best of luck to you.
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Re: Had the timing belt done and problem...

Lol now you got me worried they are going to completely screw my car over...meh I hope I'll have a little better luck then that, having problems with car situation in our household...lol my parents just got done with a shop that took 2 months to do their tranny right on an acura tl. The whole situation is fairly stressful as it is. But i really do appreciate comments on what you guys think it really helps a lot.

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Re: Had the timing belt done and problem...

I'm not sure if i have the same problem or not but my prelude H22 is currently parked and i want to drive it since it's getting warmer.
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