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Old 01-20-2010, 11:13 PM
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5th gen bad luck, need advice

well earlier today i drove over to my gurls house did everything that i usaully do... but for some very odd reason i guess i didnt pull the parking brake hard enough, but i went inside and my car rolled down her driveway, side swiped a tree with the drivers side door and 1/4 panel and slammed in to a tree/dirt bank... bumper support bent drivers side headlight busted and sorta bad dent in the drivers side...


im so pissed/depressed, and i was looking to spend my tax on some depos and such... and i rolled the window down after i tried to dive it out(didnt work)


then later after i took her to work i was on my way back to pick her up and i heard a pop come from my engine... then a slight wine.. im pretty sure it's the balancer shaft that has locked up and took teeth off the balancer belt... but then i noticed my oil pressure dropped to almost nothing, under 1500rpm and the oil light would come on... so now im going to pull the block and rebuild it with new bearings... i was looking to throw in some type s pistons or what ever would be good but any suggestions with bearings and other nick nacks to change on the internals?

i work minimal wage(sorta) and need to build on the cheap but still with great reliability in mind...
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That sucks man! Im sorry to hear that. Sounds like the kinda luck I usually have. lol
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yea... i still think its ****ed up i just got it back on the road this month.... and had to pay 130 bucks for the tag and ****... just more and more money...
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Re: 5th gen bad luck, need advice

well i been thinkin of doing some minor performance mods to the engine while i change out the balancer shaft and all of the bearings, like balancing the crank shaft, rods, and getting some type s pistons from icbmotorsports.com but would this be ideal? i know its a higher comp ratio but what would i have to do to keep from detonation? but if its too much work then ill just leave it with stock pistons. i think the s pistons with the light flywheel and a vacf and a factory muffler would be a pretty sick sleeper....
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You should just remove the damn balance shaft, it is a waste IMO.
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Thats a bummer, leave your cars in grear and it wont happen ;)
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Re: 5th gen bad luck, need advice

there's lots of threads on pz about type s pistons, so take a look around and you should be able to find what your're looking for.
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Re: 5th gen bad luck, need advice

Wow, Ha ha I don't intend to laugh but I had this happen to me the first day I had my lude. I set the E-brake while at my ex's house and started walking toward the door and heard tires rolling over gravel look back and watch my 4 hr old lude hit her scion. I was pissed then but now laugh about premature Karma, Wish you luck though you'll be happy with your end results.
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When i first got my 5th gen i had it parked on the road, and my ef was parked at the top of the driveway at an angle. I came outside late on in the day and the civic had rolled down the driveway and smashed right into the back of the lude. So both my cars got banged up at once haha.
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You should just remove the damn balance shaft, it is a waste IMO.

what? remove it? wouldnt that mess things up?




edit: ok i found the balancer shaft remover kit and was wondering if the bearing are shot, would i need to change them out or are they pressed in? it said there to go in there to keep the oil press up, cause i noticed after it locked up my oil press dropped to almost nothing... so would i need to change the bearings? in going to be changing out the other bearing also..
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there's lots of threads on pz about type s pistons, so take a look around and you should be able to find what your're looking for.
ok, as i have read you dont have to sleeve for type s pistons but what can i do about the pin diameter, they say there a bit smaller? would that mean i have to order different rods? if so what kind? im selling my other car and putting every bit of my taxes in to this car and i would like to squeezzzzzz a little more hp out while i got the engine apart...NO BOOSTING OR SUPER CHARGED... im going to stick n/a...
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eagle makes a rod that is made for the type s piston, look into that. those rods usually run anywhere from $300-400.
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After I sold my sister my c5 hardtop Vette, she did the same thing only it rolled for an acre or more before it found a tree.
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what? remove it? wouldnt that mess things up?




edit: ok i found the balancer shaft remover kit and was wondering if the bearing are shot, would i need to change them out or are they pressed in? it said there to go in there to keep the oil press up, cause i noticed after it locked up my oil press dropped to almost nothing... so would i need to change the bearings? in going to be changing out the other bearing also..
It wouldn't mess anything up. All it does is absorb vibrations from the engine robbing some hp. It will just cause a little vibration in the car, nothing bad. My friend had it removed on his sentra spec v and i rarely noticed a difference in vibration.
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It wouldn't mess anything up. All it does is absorb vibrations from the engine robbing some hp. It will just cause a little vibration in the car, nothing bad. My friend had it removed on his sentra spec v and i rarely noticed a difference in vibration.
ok... but what would cause vibration while accelerating in low rpm? because that was one thing i noticed before the shaft locked up and stuff...





but does anyone know if there are any pistons that have 11:1 compress or something like that, so that i wouldnt have to sleeve my block or buy new rods?


as bad bb6 said eagle sells some rods. and they have 2 pin sizes .866 and .864... which one type s and which one is usdm?

but i saw on another forum that they honed the rods out a little and tapped a hole at the top for more oil and crap like this


but now what about seeing if i could order factory type s rods?(hopefully a little bit cheaper)
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ok... but what would cause vibration while accelerating in low rpm? because that was one thing i noticed before the shaft locked up and stuff...





but does anyone know if there are any pistons that have 11:1 compress or something like that, so that i wouldnt have to sleeve my block or buy new rods?


as bad bb6 said eagle sells some rods. and they have 2 pin sizes .866 and .864... which one type s and which one is usdm?

but i saw on another forum that they honed the rods out a little and tapped a hole at the top for more oil and crap like this


but now what about seeing if i could order factory type s rods?(hopefully a little bit cheaper)
All the balance shaft does is absorb the vibrations from the engine lol. So with the balance shaft removed, or not working, you will have some extra vibrations.
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well i know that now, im getting the eliminator kit

but i still have questions that i would like answered from my last post.
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Oh damn!! Now that's bad luck. I got gutter rash on ym brand new rims the other day and i was mad devo about that, dunno what id do if that happened to me, soz to here man!
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im looking for botom end bearings and found this kit...

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well... this figures... every customer service rep says im wrong that a oil filter relocator kit has a bypass valve in it so it the lines were blocked it would not block the oil flow through the engine. my kit it just like this one.

they say that they in no way shape or form are responsible for the damages done by a defective part.

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well now i have another list of crap to do
motor work:
hone
check deck for flatness
maybe a 3 angle vavle job
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still cant find a ring set though...
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Re: 5th gen bad luck, need advice

dont mill the head unless it needs it. since ur removing your balance shafts i would take your entire rotating assembly in to be balanced. not sure about the rods, i never looked into it since im just planning on purchasing the eagles.

also make sure the machinist that you take your head to has had experience with honda heads before, especially Hseries. honda heads are much different then v8 heads, you cant just go in there and start cuttin sh!t out. you have to know what you are doing, and where to take material out or you will lose power and flow. check out http://cccylinderheads.com/ they are highly recommended by alot of people that have done honda builds including Blake (98vtec)
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