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Old 01-20-2010, 04:57 PM
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Hey there,

Got my block in late summer. Now im slowly building it during the winter. (Time and money lol). My plan is to boost it this summer if everything goes well and I get the funds!

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-Darton dry sleeves
-Surfaced deck
-Align hone
-Cylinder bored and honed to specified clearance
-Micro polish and balanced crank
-Pressure washed

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-Mahle power pack piston set C/R 10:1
-Eagle rods
-All Honda OEM bearings
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I love reading these builds so I thought Id share it with you all. Ordered my bearings, Should be in in a few weeks. I'll Keep you updated
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Looking good man, what turbo setup you planning on running?
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looks fun man. I wish I had the money/another car for a build
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Lookin good! Can't wait to see how your build turns out!
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ahhh i bet vtec pops like a mother ****er in that bishhhh, good lucking motor you have there. :D
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thanks guys! I dont plan on having much of a turbo set up right now. Funds are tight with all the parts and machine work lol. Ill probly just go with a good second parts. Im sure I can find some good stuff on here. First off I want to get a good engine management setup. Probly AEM or hondata s300. Then in a few years dump the budget turbo set up and go with some good stuff . Im curious as to what everyone is using for EM? Any thoughts? Electronics really are not my thing haha
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thanks guys! I dont plan on having much of a turbo set up right now. Funds are tight with all the parts and machine work lol. Ill probly just go with a good second parts. Im sure I can find some good stuff on here. First off I want to get a good engine management setup. Probly AEM or hondata s300. Then in a few years dump the budget turbo set up and go with some good stuff . Im curious as to what everyone is using for EM? Any thoughts? Electronics really are not my thing haha
the engine management you named are both really pretty good, think the AEM stand alone is one of the better(if not the best) setups out there. one program you might also look into is neptune. i dont personally have it.. yet, but i know alot of guys on here do, ans swear by it.
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wow the price looks great. Ill have to see if my tuner is familiar with it. How is it to tune? I heard AEM is really nice and user friendly. Wonder if it hase widband? Im gonna look into this for sure. Thanks for the tip
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just got the link for the aem series 2 stand alone.
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wow the price looks great. Ill have to see if my tuner is familiar with it. How is it to tune? I heard AEM is really nice and user friendly. Wonder if it hase widband? Im gonna look into this for sure. Thanks for the tip
AEM is by far one of the if not best/most advanced EMS you can have. It is not user friendly compared to the hondata S300 but has way more features. I would make sure your tuner has experience with the AEM EMS before attempting to use it.
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the only thing there that I would change, is drop the mahles. I've heard a lot of horror stories about them. A LOT. And I'm not kidding. I'm not sure if its just the mahle gold series that are supposed to work w/ non sleeved blocks, but I personally would go w/ wiseco for the extra $. Not once in a build have i heard anything bad about them. I hear mahles melting all the time.
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AEM is by far one of the if not best/most advanced EMS you can have. It is not user friendly compared to the hondata S300 but has way more features. I would make sure your tuner has experience with the AEM EMS before attempting to use it.

thought i heard the new aem series 2, was alot more user friendly?? could be wrong, i haven't delt with it, but ya.
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I got a good deal on the mahle's they are for the sleeved blocks. I heard that too, i think they are misleading people a bit with the recommended clearances. The high silicon lets you run tighter piston to wall. My machinist is very good and got them bang on to what i wanted. This is fine if your running N/A but for boost you should run them on the loose side of the scale. I knew a few guys ran them looser and had no problems. Im sure they will be just fine.... I hope haha. your starting to worry me a bit

The AEM series 2, I heard is alot better. I dont know anyone using it tho. Very curious. This EM thing is really hanging me up, its the next thing on my list and I really dont know what to get. I read ALOT of stuff on the net and people around here but still cant seem to figure out whats best. You get so many people who swear by what system they are using. Hard to pick
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I got a good deal on the mahle's they are for the sleeved blocks. I heard that too, i think they are misleading people a bit with the recommended clearances. The high silicon lets you run tighter piston to wall. My machinist is very good and got them bang on to what i wanted. This is fine if your running N/A but for boost you should run them on the loose side of the scale. I knew a few guys ran them looser and had no problems. Im sure they will be just fine.... I hope haha. your starting to worry me a bit

The AEM series 2, I heard is alot better. I dont know anyone using it tho. Very curious. This EM thing is really hanging me up, its the next thing on my list and I really dont know what to get. I read ALOT of stuff on the net and people around here but still cant seem to figure out whats best. You get so many people who swear by what system they are using. Hard to pick
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You're gonna boost 10:1 I thought lower compression was better for boost and higher compression detonated...
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sure is. This was a hard decision. I debated, but I wasnt going to drive around with 9:1 waiting for to get the money for the turbo and all the sh** i need. So gonna went with stock. Lots have done it before, its all in the tune, just less room for error. My tuner has done many 350-400 whp with stock compression. Im not boosting too high anyway.
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ya as long as you dont boost TOO much psi. you should be fine. plus with the higher C/R it'll spool up sooner.
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Where in hell are Blake and Neck on this ****?

lol anyways, back on topic. Looks sick man. I'll be following for sure, good luck with the build.
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looks nice. makes me want to take mine apart and rebuild it... and are you putting it together in your living room? talk about motivation to work on it or at least think about it everyday
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It's all on the tune. I know a guy that boosted the euro r motor aka type s, that has a compression of 11:1 made over 300whp, drove the hell out of it for a while. When it was time to take the motor apart he did a compression test first and every cylinder was almost perfect. Not to mention it was the stock internals
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lol anyways, back on topic. Looks sick man. I'll be following for sure, good luck with the build.
Lol man I was thinkin the same exact thing. I would expect 2 see one of them on here. Or bustr. Hmmm...

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mehhh i wouldnt even worry about it. since he is sleeved and all u wont have any problems when u get a good tune.

10:1 is not crazy. i like it
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haha thanks guys. Companies like JUN have been boosting with high compression for years and swear buy it. It shouldn't lag as much as 9:1 will.
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Update...
Took apart my oil pump today and found a nasty surprise. Before i talk about that I want to show you how to measure clearances and inspect your oil pump. May already be covered. If it is I apologize, still new to this forum thing.
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1.Take the back cap off so the rotors are exposed.

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2. Check the inner-to-outer rotor radial clearance on the pump rotor.
Standard(new): (0.001-0.006 in)
Service Limit: (0.008 in)

3. Ne step (no pics sorry) check the housing to rotor clearance by placing a perfectly flat edge on the pump housing. Then place feeler gauge under the flat edge where the rotors are.
Standard(New): (0.001-0.003 in)
Service Limit: (0.005 in)

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4. Check the housing-to-outer rotor radial clearance.
Standard(new): (0.004-0.007 in)
Service Limit: (0.008 in)

AND THAT'S MOSTLY IT!. Make sure to check for wear or scoring of course. And replace parts accordingly.

Ok. Hear is were I got a nasty surprise. If you notice bellow, you can see the gouge out of my inner pump rotor and on my crank, which sucks because I had it micro polished and balanced already. Sooooo, I dont think they are good any more so I need a new crank with 50mm mains (because my block is a 97). And a new inner pump rotor... This made me think a litle. What about a F series crank and make it into a stroker (would need new rods tho, unless I sell or trade mine??) I think it would be pretty bad ass haha. but Im leaning towards just getting another 50mm main journal h22 crank.
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too much "i heard this", "i heard that"

an engine management is only as good as the tuner. Doesnt matter if its labelled the best. If the tuner doesnt know his way around the software, its no good. You dont want a tuner learning on your car unless the tuner came up with an agreement to hook you up on price to allow him to learn it and actually believe he is capable of doing a good job.

10:1 compression is what stock h22's are at and you dont see them having problems with boost. And now you have forged pistons. Just hope whoever did your machine work is familiar with FRM or does machine work for porches.
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too much "i heard this", "i heard that"

an engine management is only as good as the tuner. Doesnt matter if its labelled the best. If the tuner doesnt know his way around the software, its no good. You dont want a tuner learning on your car unless the tuner came up with an agreement to hook you up on price to allow him to learn it and actually believe he is capable of doing a good job.



10:1 compression is what stock h22's are at and you dont see them having problems with boost. And now you have forged pistons. Just hope whoever did your machine work is familiar with FRM or does machine work for porches.
Ive been talking to him (tuner), just wondering what your inputs were. If I was to do a bit of tuning myself, just wanted to know which was more user friendly.
My block is sleeved, im running mahle power pack, for sleeved blocks.
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mmmmmm i REALLLYYYYY like build threads like this
should put out GOOD numbers!

i'm also wondering if you are assembling the short block yourself? or are those pics of an engine builder doing your block?

looks like a solid build thus far!
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haha thanks man. Nope thats me doing the build in my kitchen. Still looking for a damn crank tho lol. Take a look at the pics up top and see the gouges in the inner pump rotor(were the crank sits) and on the crank itself. Its pretty f*****.. A well tho, nothing ever goes smoothly, just need a new crank. The one that Jesus has would work, and its already polished (if I read the thread right).
Just waiting for the crank now so I can remeasure and order the bearings.

What are your thoughts on TOGA high volume oil pumps?? There around the same price as OEM. Anyone ever run one on there setup?
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mmmmm than you can def expect a PM from me regarding assembling a short block.

i def feel confident enough to do it, but since there isn't really a DIY online, i just have questions like specific tools needed, bearing clearances and shizzz
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