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Old 01-16-2010, 05:45 PM
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help no fuel after swap!

so i just finished my jdm swap into my 97 prelude and i it won't start.

i followed bustr's distributor wiring but the 4 wires from the obd2 harness do not match the ones on the dist. coming from the dist i had

orange
white
green
yellow/blue


i did

orange- yellow
yellow/blue- yellow/blue
green- green
white- black

the car cranks over but i do not hear a fuel pump running with the key in the on position. everything was working fine before the swap. my question is, if the distributor wires are reversed will the fuel pump not turn at all????

have not checked spark because i am by myself and i don't have a spark plug checker, but i am certain there is no fuel so i am starting there.

is there anything else i could have missed during the swap??

please help!!!
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Re: help no fuel after swap!

Do you have any CELs? Also double check all of your harness connections.
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Re: help no fuel after swap!

there are a couple of plugs that are not connected, i believe they are sensors that are not used on the jdm h22a. i have read somewhere that a bad ground at the thermostat housing will cause this but i dont see a ground there nor do i remember taking it off.

i have no idea what to do, i'm stumped
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I would try to identify what plugs are not being used. Also, what ECU are you running?
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Re: help no fuel after swap!

im not even sure, the sticker on it is faded

what pisses me off is that everything was working fine with the other motor. do you have any idea if the distributor wiring would cause the fuel pump to have no power?

is your wiring harness grounded at the thermostat housing? i dont see a ground location for mine and i find it hard to believe that one little ground wire would cause no fuel.
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you might wanna try plugging in them injectors -_-
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Re: help no fuel after swap!

i actually have to run my aftermarket injectors for now and run rich because you sent me the wrong ones.
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Re: help no fuel after swap!

How could i send you the wrong ones when they came straight off my 97 lude? Do you see how long you have been on this forum? 2 months? Ive been on these forums a yr and a half and have 30+ feedbacks btw the three. You have what, 0? Come on man
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Re: help no fuel after swap!

dude i really don't care what you think right now, i need to fix this problem.

i don't really care how long you've been a member, it's irrelevant to the fact that your injectors do not fit my wiring harness but my aftermarket injectors and the jdm ones that came with my motor do, what a coincidence. anyway, if you would kindly leave the thread so i can get some positive assistance. thanks
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Re: help no fuel after swap!

What happened to contacting an admin about it? Really dude? I think your trying to scam someone. Those injectors fit, thats a load of bull**** like the load i just blew on my keyboard. You want your money back, yeah right man. I dont think you are an ASE cert mechanic
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Re: help no fuel after swap!

scam someone? yes i contacted you in the first place because i needed injectors for my car and sent you the money and i am trying to scam you. i don't care what you think. now can you stop trying to argue with me on a forum?
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Yeah i think your trying to scam someone. Those injectors fit. They came right off of my car. And you want me to refund you the money bacK?? I highly doubt you would send them back, afterall they are made for your car and should work, unless you aren't plugging them in right. But your ASE cert, so that can't be it
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Re: help no fuel after swap!

you're asking me if i am plugging them in right, a monkey can plug injectors in. i will contact an admin with a picture of mine and yours side by side once i get my damn car to start. now can you stop freaking replying so i can get help!
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Re: help no fuel after swap!

And ur and ASE Certified mechanic???
im sorry but I know Jesse and can confirm that his injectors are OEM out of his 97 Base...
I work for Honda and when i hear that an ASE certified mechanic cant even put these on to start a car, makes me wonder how you got the certification...
theres only three things to start a car. :Intake, Fuel, Spark
if you know your missing one of those, use the diagnostic skills you learned
and figure it out.
check ur Fuel pump fuse, and make sure ur injectors are plugged in correctly
If you need a helpful step by step directions on fixing this
i'll be glad to send you the info.

** oh and also to check spark just unplugg ur spark plug wires and point it 1/2in away from your block and crank the car, you should see spark comming out
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Re: help no fuel after swap!

Like i said. You can contact all the admins you want to. Those came right off my car and they have been working for 13 yrs and 167k miles, but they wont work for a newbie on a forum? Hmm. Yeahh sketchy. Im a moderator on another forum and if someone like you came to me with something like this, i'd laugh in your face
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Re: help no fuel after swap!

except that i already checked all of these things and i suspect it has something to do with the rewiring of the distributor's crank and tdc sensors. but my wire colors do not match bustr's tutorial.

i ordered injectors because my aftermarket ones are too big, it's not a matter of the car not starting because i cant plug in injectors. the plugs on his do not match the ones on mine, but that's besides the point.

the original motor was running before the swap with the aftermarket injectors and now my fuel pump doesnt run.

so thanks for the fundamental advice
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Re: help no fuel after swap!

thank you. now can we move on so someone can provide some advice.
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Re: help no fuel after swap!

Did you check everything, are you sure the pump is not getting power. Can't you just try a multimeter to see if it is getting power.
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Re: help no fuel after swap!

i couldn't get a test light back there and crank it at the same time because i'm alone.

but i finally figured it out!!!!! it was a bad ground that wasnt making contact at the thermostat housing. soon as i cleaned it and put it back on, turned the key and the pump came right on. hard to believe one little ground can cause such a problem.
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Re: help no fuel after swap!

^you dont have to crank it to test for power back there. just key on to ignition and test your black w/ yellow stripe wire. if you don't have power there check fuses. YOUR PROBLEM HAS NOTHING TO DO W/ INJECTORS. you should also be able to hear your fuel pump turn on. I think you the ground wire about the thermostat housing on the head has a bad or no connection. that ground goes to your ecu and most of your sensors.
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Re: help no fuel after swap!

yup i did all of that, i got no power to the pump. obviously it had no problem to do with the injectors, that would be irrelevant.

after reading on a forum i finally checked the ground connection at the thermostat housing and low and behold that was the problem.

also, the distributor is for a USDM h23 obd1 but the wires coming out of it did not match your tutorial, 3 of them were different. i spliced them together temporarily the way i figured they went and after discovering the ground problem she fired up
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nice job figuring it out dude.
u gotta love how people think because ur a newb on a forum, then u must not know how to fix a car..

but regarding that, is it possible there were two diff style injectors for the H22 those years?
then neither one of u guys are wrong or trying to scam eachother or whatever....lol
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Re: help no fuel after swap!

idk if there were 2 styles or not all i know is that the ones he sent me do not fit my car. and here he is insulting me and telling me that the injectors HAVE to fit simply because of the fact that he's been a member of the forum longer than i have. and here are the pictures to prove i'm not trying to "scam" anyone. i just want injectors that fit

my injector on the left, nordic's injector on the right. plug is totally different

By aalvarez3, shot with BlackBerry 9530 at 2010-01-17

here is my jdm injector on the bottom(notice the green nozzle)

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and here is a picture to prove that the rc injectors are on my car right now because i have nothing else to use (can't use jdm ones without a resistor box) and coincidentally, both the aftermarket and jdm ones plug int omy harness but his don't!

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yea they are def diff...but come on man, hes a admin on another forum so hed laugh in ur face even tho the evidence states otherwise....
this kid nordic needs to learn how to listen to people before he
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LOL. My problem is that your trying to tell me i sold you a different injector from another car and that you want your money back, when thats complete bull****

And evilbird, who the **** are you

and here's a link showing a h22a4 injector. damn it sure matches mine spot on

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dude my very first satement before you started to insult me and call me an idiot was "i don't know what you sent me but these injectors do not fit my car, please refund me my money"

there you have the pictures to prove that they are completely different injectors. considering the fact that we have the same car and they do not fit on mine, leads me to believe they are not made for our cars.

and you really need to stop mouthing off and cursing/insulting people around here
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LOL. My problem is that your trying to tell me i sold you a different injector from another car and that you want your money back, when thats complete bull****

And evilbird, who the **** are you
who the f*ck are you..lol
but i was sayin that neither one of u was wrong and that they prob had 2 styles, dont know about the H22 but i had that prob with my injectors on my LS1's.......but YOU were talking mad sh*t to this dude calling him a idiot and scamer....and didnt know what he was doing cus hes a newb on a FORUM...

if they dont fit hes car they dont fit....why not just take them back and split the costs?
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so you continued to mouth off and proceeded to jump on my thread i posted asking for help for no reason at all trying to be a smartass. really mature
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Re: help no fuel after swap!

and he then goes on to say he doubts i'm ASE certified because i don't know how to plug in injectors. every single picture i pull up online of an injector referenced by the make and model of my car matches my plug and i havent seen a single one like his. so he must have a rare 97 prelude that no one else has but him.

now are you going to believe the proof in the pictures and refund me my money so i can ship this fuel rail back to you, or are ou going to keep arguing and take this further without necessity
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