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K20A Type R in a 5th gen

i wanted to know what people think about the K20A Type R engine. was thinking about dropping it in to my 5th gen????
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Re: K20A Type R in a 5th gen

I'd go with the K24 block and the K20 Type R head. Need that torque. Obviously the K20 Type R has more horse power then the H22, I doubt it has as much torque through the entire power band though.
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Re: K20A Type R in a 5th gen

Also you will need the tranny if I am not mistaken.
Since the K motors sit with the intake toward the front
and the exhaust on the rear, if you don't swap it
then you will have 1 forward and 6 reverse gears.

Im sure it can be done, but you need to do some
homework before attacking a swap like this.
Also like said many time before....anything is
possible with enough money.
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Re: K20A Type R in a 5th gen

thought the h22 had more power then the k20. And it's quite expensive to buy the block I'd reccommend turboing your h22. More exiting and a final power the would justify the costs. And jaynight is right about the tranny
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Re: K20A Type R in a 5th gen

Not only that but the modification to the motor bay and engine mounts and all, hardly worth the effort just buy a civic si or an rsx type S.

Or turbo or supercharge the H22. I drove the 2010 Civic SI I wasn't that impressed. I think the Prelude has way more torque and that equals power, horsepower is nothing without torque.
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Re: K20A Type R in a 5th gen

If you plan on building a big power engine, then a K swap makes sense. Aftermarket support for the K-series is roughly a million times more than our beloved H engines. However first you do need to swap the engine, trans (the engine spins the other way, so there's no way a H trans will bolt up; it also has 6 speeds!), mounts, drive shafts and ECU etc first.

But do it. I've heard a bunch of people say they'd like to, and while I know it has been done, I've not found any info on the car, just a picture or two of the finished product.
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Re: K20A Type R in a 5th gen

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If you plan on building a big power engine, then a K swap makes sense. Aftermarket support for the K-series is roughly a million times more than our beloved H engines. However first you do need to swap the engine, trans (the engine spins the other way, so there's no way a H trans will bolt up; it also has 6 speeds!), mounts, drive shafts and ECU etc first.

But do it. I've heard a bunch of people say they'd like to, and while I know it has been done, I've not found any info on the car, just a picture or two of the finished product.
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plus there's alot of differences that make the k series a better engine. head/port design, full grilled bottom end to name a couple.
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Re: K20A Type R in a 5th gen

A buddy of mine has an EK w/a k20 swap done n to put it plainly he has around 19k invested into it and he said if he woulda researched morer he woulda done a g swap. Makes more power. Just my .02
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Re: K20A Type R in a 5th gen

damn, 19k into it? holy crap.. how much did he build the motor/car in the process then? cuz most people i here that do it, normally spend less then 10k on the entire thing..
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Re: K20A Type R in a 5th gen

Dude he has **** done to this car that I didn't even kno was possible lol. Complete forged block pistons etc. He's goin all motor. But I was talkin to him about my g22 bein blown n he said if I build a G22 like he's buildin his k I'd **** on him all day. Stock k series vs "stock" g series g has a lil more hp n way more tq.
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Re: K20A Type R in a 5th gen

ahhh ok. he still building it then?

and ahah i might as well go for a C series swap then! Anyone seen it done? lol :D
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Ya he still buildin. His car will be sick when its done
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why a c series? they put out less power than an h22a. unless you get the nsx one, that would be sick haha
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like you said, theres alot more aftermarket support for the k series.
plus there's alot of differences that make the k series a better engine. head/port design, full grilled bottom end to name a couple.
Thats just because the K series are still in production, ours have been out for 9 years.

But I have driven both the 2010 Civic SI and the 2004 RSX type S, still not impressed with the torque yeah maybe with a huge amount of power adders then maybe I'd have one. Still think stock for stock the Prelude has way more torque.
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Re: K20A Type R in a 5th gen

What is the k20a from? that makes a huge difference...


Honda Civic Mugen RR Advanced Concept - 260hp 175lb-ft



Honda Civic Mugen(Honda ABA-FD2) 240hp 159lb-ft



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2001-2007 JDM Honda Integra Type-R (DC5) 220hp 152lb-ft


2003-2007 JDM Honda Accord Euro-R CL7 22-hp 152lb-ft

None of them are really worth it though unless you plan on going aftermarket on them. Only real advantage to swapping in a k series would be that they are not FRM sleeved, they respond a lot better to bolt on parts, and they are a lot lighter (a k20a is lighter than a b16a).


If you want to be a true baller do a K23a1 240hp 260lb-ft. Stock turbo engine out of the RDX.
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or you could just turbo the h22 and have more power than any of the other options... just sayin
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or you could just turbo the h22 and have more power than any of the other options... just sayin
Do you know how much money it takes to actually build an H22 for boost and see it be reliable and powerful? **** aint cheap.

Neither is doing a kswap though. Trust me on that.
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Re: K20A Type R in a 5th gen

anyone seen any pics of k series swap into a 5th gen or any other motor swaps into a 5th that has made it faster. if u have pics if you can post them please i'd like to see them.
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I would be interested to see if the RSX Type-S K20 in a Prelude would be faster than an H22, I would bet money that it would be, both in a straight line and on a track.
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and after you spent the money making the K work, that same money still makes me woop that ass with an H
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Obviously. But if you need a new engine anyways, why not? You'll save money on gas and oil too.
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Obviously. But if you need a new engine anyways, why not? You'll save money on gas and oil too.
ok explain yourself there. I got lost in the extra dollars in custom fabrication to go the same speed as a H. How does that save money in gas? My built H got 36mpg on the highway and 30mpg in the city.
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i wish we had the ability to make the h stronger in the lude then the k in a hatch :(
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U can make the prelude faster then a hatch wit a k swap. Build a g swap. Do the research...may be a PITA buts g swaps the truth. I miss mine. Stock w/I/H/E I put down around 180 whp. G swap is a monster. I'm buildin mine again. Gonna be awhile lol
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Re: K20A Type R in a 5th gen

Like I said b4 a friend of mine has an EK w/a built k in it. He flat out told me if he woulda known about the g22 before he built his he would done that instead. Its a monster.
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Re: K20A Type R in a 5th gen

yeeah true pain in the ass and lots of $$$ i found 3 pics of a k swap looks nice but i wanna see pics of a nice k turboed maybe something crazy!!
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yea and after the car was done, they regretted going to the k20.
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k series is getting very old try something new sheesh..its been done already, gonna spend 5k getting an engine to a car...........................get a 2jz FWD!!!!!!!!! lol
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