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Old 01-09-2010, 08:52 PM
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need help with gauge needle calibration!

Hey today I just changed the gauge faces on my 5th gen instrument cluster. They are the white ones that light up blue at night. Anyway when I got them out and took it apart, I was kinda dissapointed to find out the new gauge faces wouldnt just slip on over the old ones with leaving the needles on. (I have installed these before on other vehicles and never had to take the needles off) so, I tryed pulling on the needles gently and they came right up and attached to the needle was a small shaft the size of a sewing pin about an inch long that went all the way through the center of each gauge. I put them all back together, pushing the needles back in to where I thought they should go. The problem i am having now is when i installed them back in the car and started it up....The tach gauge reads about 5500 rmp when it is idiling, and the temp gauge read about 1/4 of the way after first started when car was cold. idk if the fuel gauge is reading correctly??, and mph is at 0 but i didnt drive it so I dont know if that is working properly either. If there is any one out there that has run into this problem and know how to recalibrate the neddles??.....please let me know! Im not sure of what to do now but keep taking the needles back off and on and retesting. This seems very time consuming. Please help me if you know anything. thanks in advance.
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Re: need help with gauge needle calibration!

.... uh think maybe the dealership on that one.. just a guess though.
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Re: need help with gauge needle calibration!

I can't remember exactly but if you Google it( or even youtube it) I know I've seen explanations of this around. Although IIRC You need to be seriouslt careful until you know what you are doing, or you will fukc your shiit up...
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Re: need help with gauge needle calibration!

When a mate of mine did his he traced all the needles when before he took them off, so he had an easy time getting them all back on.

When the car is off, everything should be set at the 0. Then just cruise down the road and fill up the tank, so the fuel gauge can be set at full.
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Re: need help with gauge needle calibration!

take the clear housing off the cluster and keep it wired up. start the car and let it warm up. onced warmed up for about 15 mins set the temp to half. and then for the rpm. it should be running at about 600 to 700rpm. the gas u can set it and it should go to the correct level. the speed is a little tough. when i did this i used my gps to make the correct adjustment. while driving i set the car on cruise control to 50. using the gps. then i placed the needle in and then took off cruise. i then drove around making sure it was set. if you have jacks, then you can jack the car up and do this. that's pretty much the best way to do this without having to take it to someone else. it will take some time and patience. but in the end it will be working. careful not to push the needle into the copper wiring. it will kill that gauge. i slipped when doing it and the gas and rpm is now shot. good luck.
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Re: need help with gauge needle calibration!

There's no way that in normal conditions the temp gauge should be reading half. In four and a half years of ownership I've never seen mine get to half. Nor have I ever seen any others that I've driven that high.
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Re: need help with gauge needle calibration!

really? mine is almost always (like 99.9999%) is chillin right at half.
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There's no way that in normal conditions the temp gauge should be reading half. In four and a half years of ownership I've never seen mine get to half. Nor have I ever seen any others that I've driven that high.
Every car operating at normal operating tempature should have the temp gauge reading at half way! (or one or two lines below) I dont know what you are talking about??
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take the clear housing off the cluster and keep it wired up. start the car and let it warm up. onced warmed up for about 15 mins set the temp to half. and then for the rpm. it should be running at about 600 to 700rpm. the gas u can set it and it should go to the correct level. the speed is a little tough. when i did this i used my gps to make the correct adjustment. while driving i set the car on cruise control to 50. using the gps. then i placed the needle in and then took off cruise. i then drove around making sure it was set. if you have jacks, then you can jack the car up and do this. that's pretty much the best way to do this without having to take it to someone else. it will take some time and patience. but in the end it will be working. careful not to push the needle into the copper wiring. it will kill that gauge. i slipped when doing it and the gas and rpm is now shot. good luck.
Thanks for the tips, I pretty much tried this today and I think the temp, mph and gas gauge is working properly now. As for the tach gauge.....I think its fuc*ed, after trying to adjust, If i move the needle by hand with the car running it will go back to 600-700rpm by itself ....but when i rev the engine it stays still!? Once I revved it to about 5000rmp and it started moving slightly backwards toward 0 ?? I dont think i pushed the needle into the copper wiring but who knows?? Im I just gonna have to live without a tach now all because of some stupid ass gauge faces? I am so pissed at myself. I'm sure a new tach gauge will be mad $$. If anyone has one for sale i guess let me know. Or if anyone knows if these are repairable, please let me know, thanks.

P.S. You put the needle back in while driving around at 50mph?? Your crazy lol

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There's no way that in normal conditions the temp gauge should be reading half. In four and a half years of ownership I've never seen mine get to half. Nor have I ever seen any others that I've driven that high.
mines never gotten close to half. maybe something lke 2/5th's, never half
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really? mine is almost always (like 99.9999%) is chillin right at half.
x2 maybe just a smudgeon under half...but just slightly.
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Re: need help with gauge needle calibration!

the issue with the tach might be that youm put the needle into the copper wiring or, you might have put the needle in too far. its really sensitive when you do that. i wish i could give you better advice, but all i can say is just move it around carefully and you may just get it. otherwise you may need to get a new tach from a junk yard or online, or just by a tachometer. good luck
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Here is what I had to do to reset my needles....It takes two people and a OBD Computer Reader. Not the cheap one that just pulls the code, but one that cost about $5k. Lucky for me I have a friend that has one....read on.

Take your dash apart so you can get the plastic cover off, then reinstall the dash minus the plastic cover. With the OBD computer plugged in, and a passenger that knows how to use it, go for a drive. To set the Speed-O get to a certain MPH and set the cruise control. Read the MPH on the OBD computer, and replace the needle for that set speed.
This is also a good reason to have a passenger with you, so he can replace/set the needle while you concentrate on driving.

The Tach is just the same, only you don't have to be moving, and just get it as close as possible to the reading on the OBD Computer.

Fuel, just do that next time you fill up, or when your yellow light of no return come on. Then put the needle to either the F or E.

Temp guage, pretty simple. Do this one when the car has been off for a while, and just set it at the lowest point.

Just make sure that you don't push the needles to far down or they will get stuck. And BE CAREFUL, we all know how fragile the needles are.

After you get the needles set to your liking, remove the gauge cluster one more time, and replace the plastic cover. You should be good to go after that.

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Here is what I had to do to reset my needles....It takes two people and a OBD Computer Reader. Not the cheap one that just pulls the code, but one that cost about $5k. Lucky for me I have a friend that has one....read on.

Take your dash apart so you can get the plastic cover off, then reinstall the dash minus the plastic cover. With the OBD computer plugged in, and a passenger that knows how to use it, go for a drive. To set the Speed-O get to a certain MPH and set the cruise control. Read the MPH on the OBD computer, and replace the needle for that set speed.
This is also a good reason to have a passenger with you, so he can replace/set the needle while you concentrate on driving.

The Tach is just the same, only you don't have to be moving, and just get it as close as possible to the reading on the OBD Computer.

Fuel, just do that next time you fill up, or when your yellow light of no return come on. Then put the needle to either the F or E.

Temp guage, pretty simple. Do this one when the car has been off for a while, and just set it at the lowest point.

Just make sure that you don't push the needles to far down or they will get stuck. And BE CAREFUL, we all know how fragile the needles are.

After you get the needles set to your liking, remove the gauge cluster one more time, and replace the plastic cover. You should be good to go after that.

Good luck !!!

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