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anyone done any sound proofing?

I want to sound proof my base lude, it seems like I can hear a ton of road/engine noise when driving, anyone else experienced this?

So I want to sound proof the whole car, and i have looked for some info on here and didn't find much. Can someone point me in the right direction, or does anyone know how to go about it, what material best to use, specific points that leak noise?
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I know someone here has done soundproofing on their lude... I can't remember who did it atm though >_>

maybe lilmsprelude?
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Re: anyone done any sound proofing?

Yes, How May I Help You?

LULZ....

I assume you have a 5th Gen? ala the forum you posted in.

My NEXT question is, what is your budget? Think Seriously about this.

You Don't have to add a Lot of weight, but you DO Have to do it right. And I will help, if you trust me. :D
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LULZ....

I assume you have a 5th Gen? ala the forum you posted in.

My NEXT question is, what is your budget? Think Seriously about this.

You Don't have to add a Lot of weight, but you DO Have to do it right. And I will help, if you trust me. :D
dont trust her, Renee doesnt know what shes talking about *hides* i kid man, shes the one you should definately talk to about this, her or a guy named Jesse. i dont know his username so sorry man.
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Jesse is Nevrdun

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"Understanding the Basics - Electronics and Car Audio - Sound Dampening."

To Keep the other tutorial clean and uncluttered, go ahead and ask questions in here and I will do my best to help. Or, I will reference you to someone else that has MORE experience than I.

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One more link for ya. the one is VERY GOOD:

Thast right Renee. Im using your advice

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I Remember that thread... he did it Old skool... WAY to much Butyl rubber mat! He could have used half of that and used foam and a constraining layer of vinyl and been done with it.

Once again, it is NOT appropriate to use so much mat and certainly, and exponentially, a WASTE of money!
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Re: anyone done any sound proofing?

What? Who? Huh? Someone say my name?

So Renee will be able to give you the most detailed instruction on being the most thorough. I however am VERY used to the average person who thinks $200 bucks for sound damping is crazy and $300+ to install it is acenine. I believe there is a certain point where you can spend $xxx on material and achieve a xx% of noise reduction. However (2x)$xxx doesn't equal (2x) xx% reduction.

That being said, sound deadening SUCKS! It's tedious, it's not fun, it's fairly expensive and when you're done you can't crank it up and your car isn't faster.

Your main area of improvement is going to be large, flat, unbroken peices of sheet metal as road noise in your car is largely metal resonating. So by first elimating the biggest offenders of resonation your going to see the most result for the least amount of work and material.

In your 5th gen the best place to start is going to be the outer door skins and the rear quarter panels. Those 2 places made a noticeable change in ambient noise driving down the road.

Your budget will be one of the biggest parameters. Keep in mind though, there gets to be a point where adding material is arbitrary and for what you're putting into the car, your not getting the results. Let us know what you're trying to acheive and what you're willing to spend and do to get there and we will set you straight.
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I am also very interested in this. I hate hearing my suspension noises, it would also be nice to have less noise coming from the engine bay.
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why the hell would you want to soundproof your car? You wont hear anything..sort of a hazard...
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Not literally sound "proofing" reducing road noise inside the car.
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why the hell would you want to soundproof your car? You wont hear anything..sort of a hazard...
Ummm, I am just wondering if you are really asking that question.
Can you explain how you would consider Soundproofing a car is a HAZARD.
I mean look at all the Luxury cars, Lexus, Mercedes, Jaguar, Rolls Royce, they are completely soundproof and I have seen no hazards on them. It is not like we are making them 100% soundproof to everything around us, that would be impossible. Well not impossible, but rather expensive. We are not putting bullet proof glass or tons of armor on them. It is more to eliminate the dull sounds or vibrations made from the everyday operation of the car. You know sounds like the tires long monotone hum where the rubber meets the road.

I am not even gonna try to explain it to you, just look here.
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LULZ....

I assume you have a 5th Gen? ala the forum you posted in.

My NEXT question is, what is your budget? Think Seriously about this.

You Don't have to add a Lot of weight, but you DO Have to do it right. And I will help, if you trust me. :D
Ok so I would say 100-200$ for my budget, is that enough to make a decent difference?

yes it is a 5th g.

Ok I will trust you. My main issues are; where on the car will it make the most difference, what materials are best to use, how to properly install it, and how difficult this will be.
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Re: anyone done any sound proofing?

With that 'small' of a budget... focus on the WORST noise producers

The doors and the trunk.

20sq feet Damplifier Regular = $55.98

36 Sq Feet of Luxury Liner Pro = 139.99

= $195.97 in product + shipping will put you just a hair over $200.

Apply two pieces of damplifier to the inside of each door-- this part is a pain in the ass but WELL worth the effort!

remaining Damplilfier should be applied to the wheel wells, and trunk lid.

Cover all ''dampened'' areas with Luxury liner. --see DIY tutorial--

Save up until you can buy more product --- then do the rest of your car, the passenger area floor
the trunk floor, etc, etc.

Read the DIY I posted a link to earlier. It will help...

Ask questions in here.

The only thing you MUSt make sure of is the temperature is OVER 65 degrees when installing. A heat gun, small wooden or metal ''roller'' , razor knife, and gloves are a must.
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ever try foam insulation? their is two types either its a preformed pad which you add adhesive to back of it to the panels or a liquid foam type in which you spray.
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the only problem with that is it only acts as an acoustic barrier and it is large cell/ open cell foam which means it can, and will, attract and retain moisture which leads to Mold, etc.
And it is ONLY ''good'' for large open cavities and it will NOT work, or be efficient to use on the floors, nor, does it provide any reduction in the panel resonance.

UNLESS you go with a good two part Poly-urethane foam.... but have YOU Ever worked with that messy crap? LOL! And it is MORE expensive than the process I mentioned above.
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the only problem with that is it only acts as an acoustic barrier and it is large cell/ open cell foam which means it can, and will, attract and retain moisture which leads to Mold, etc.
And it is ONLY ''good'' for large open cavities and it will NOT work, or be efficient to use on the floors, nor, does it provide any reduction in the panel resonance.

UNLESS you go with a good two part Poly-eurothane(s?) foam.... but have YOU Ever worked with that messy crap? LOL! And it is MORE expensive than the process I mentioned above.
the poly-urethane stuff its a bit on the high price range but its preeeety good stuff ,I personally never used it but ive seen it been sprayed on and yes it is a bit messy.
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Sound proofing can be a mess
Ive done alot of cars for people
an average job for a car the size of a 5th gen is like 850 for an above average and 400 for mild other wise you really wont notice a difference also to me if you want to hear your intake and muffler at all you wouldn't want to
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I mean instead of hearing the road you can always throw subs in the trunk....I got 2 kicker comps giving me a back massage on the way home from work everyday ^_^
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an average job for a car the size of a 5th gen is like 850 for an above average and 400 for mild other wise you really wont notice a difference also to me if you want to hear your intake and muffler at all you wouldn't want to
You will certainly notice a difference with even $100 in the right places. And you will still hear the engine, if fact, possibly better because that sound comes from the engine and exhaust itself. Road noise is resonating body panels. If you reduce the noise floor (road noise) you will actually hear the engine more prodominantly, unless great lengths in sound deadening are taken, particularly on the firewall.
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You will certainly notice a difference with even $100 in the right places. And you will still hear the engine, if fact, possibly better because that sound comes from the engine and exhaust itself. Road noise is resonating body panels. If you reduce the noise floor (road noise) you will actually hear the engine more prodominantly, unless great lengths in sound deadening are taken, particularly on the firewall.
as someone who has done spray downs with foam, dynamate, and vinyl i would say telling someone 100 in the right places is very miss leading
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as someone who has done spray downs with foam, dynamate, and vinyl i would say telling someone 100 in the right places is very miss leading
Good for you!

MOST of the sound deadening we do is with about $100 worth of material. Most people don't want to pay for what it takes to do a thorough job because with labor, it is VERY expensive. So we need to do a proper installation to make that customers money worth while. And it DOES make a noticable difference. It's not huge, but IS noticable.
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With that 'small' of a budget... focus on the WORST noise producers

The doors and the trunk.

20sq feet Damplifier Regular = $55.98

36 Sq Feet of Luxury Liner Pro = 139.99

= $195.97 in product + shipping will put you just a hair over $200.

Apply two pieces of damplifier to the inside of each door-- this part is a pain in the ass but WELL worth the effort!

remaining Damplilfier should be applied to the wheel wells, and trunk lid.

Cover all ''dampened'' areas with Luxury liner. --see DIY tutorial--

Save up until you can buy more product --- then do the rest of your car, the passenger area floor
the trunk floor, etc, etc.

Read the DIY I posted a link to earlier. It will help...

Ask questions in here.

The only thing you MUSt make sure of is the temperature is OVER 65 degrees when installing. A heat gun, small wooden or metal ''roller'' , razor knife, and gloves are a must.
So I think, kind of like what you were saying, I'm going to do it piece by piece, first i'm going to do the doors, and then the trunk until I get more. I read the other tutorials above and i am still not clear on how to apply the material, and exactly where to apply it in those areas.
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I know this thread is EXTREMELY old, but was wondering if anyone had any knowledge on reducing engine noise. I see it was mentioned above but no one really answered it
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You'll have to pull off the dash and put in sound damper all the way up to the window.

Floors are already pretty good, but the firewall above the carpet is not "sound proofed" in Preludes. Can be done from the outside but will look like crap.

Sounds crazy but that's about all you can do. Luxury cars have it throughout the entire car. But it adds weight so hot rods like the Prelude do not. Plus the growl of the H22 is masked if sound proofed.
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You'll have to pull off the dash and put in sound damper all the way up to the window.

Floors are already pretty good, but the firewall above the carpet is not "sound proofed" in Preludes. Can be done from the outside but will look like crap.

Sounds crazy but that's about all you can do. Luxury cars have it throughout the entire car. But it adds weight so hot rods like the Prelude do not. Plus the growl of the H22 is masked if sound proofed.
yeah, i noticed there is no type of sound proofing to the engine on the firewall under the hood. lol i'm not really worried about masking that growl but the engine is too loud cruising down the road and i wouldn't mind lessening it. you know what material would be good or should i start with the suggestions above?
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