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Please help with clutch master cylinder swap

I am installing a new clutch master cylinder on my 99 lude and i cannot even get the old one out. I can't seem to get the left bolt off underneath the dash, in fact i can't even get TO it. Anyone have any tricks or tools they use? I am in dire need of help i need my car running asap, any input is greatly appreciated. thanks in advance!
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Re: Please help with clutch master cylinder swap

god i remember doing rich's clutch MC, and it was suchhhhhh a PITA. luckily i have tiny hands and i'm a small dude to fit into tight spaces, and even i had a problem with it.

pretty sure i remember using a 6" extension on a ratchet. then hopefully u have tiny hands as well so you don't drop the nut/bolt behind the carpet.
also, the cotter pin on the left side holding the MC piston to the pedal was one of the hardest things ever to remove.
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Re: Please help with clutch master cylinder swap

oh lord that pin was a bitch, i got so frustrated with it i eventually broke one side of it and just pulled it out. i'll have to get a longer extension i suppose. all i have is a 3 inch i believe. the thing that gets me is that this entire procedure does not seem very difficult at all, but its at a complete standstill because i can't reach a bolt :(

well thanks for your input man, i'll go find me a longer extension and try it. did you use a deep well socket?
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Re: Please help with clutch master cylinder swap

o yea its a very straight forward thing to change, it's just in one of the most cramped and inconvenient places on the car to work on.

after just going to look at mine, a 3" extension should be perfect, but you NEEEEDDDD a deep socket, there's no getting around that.
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Re: Please help with clutch master cylinder swap

yeah i figured so. my sockets are deep enough to get a little bit of the bolts edges but not enough for me to feel comfortable doing it. ok well at least i know what i need now. i have small hands and i'm relatively small myself. bout 5'9 150lbs or so. its so awkward torquing and twisting my body to get angles underneath there. and my ribs are sore from hanging out of the car leaning in. not to mention it snowed here today and the ground is rocks. this is not fun!
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Re: Please help with clutch master cylinder swap

nah don't use regular sockets, you'll just strip the edges then you'll be REALLYYYY pissed/frustrated.


if your planning on working on your car a lot, get one of these suckers, its a perfect starter kit for the DIY'r driveway mechanic:
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metric and standard, shallow 6pt and 12pt sockets, deep sockets, 1/2", 3/8" and 1/4" ratchets, open ended, allens, etc...
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nah don't use regular sockets, you'll just strip the edges then you'll be REALLYYYY pissed/frustrated.


if your planning on working on your car a lot, get one of these suckers, its a perfect starter kit for the DIY'r driveway mechanic:
Craftsman 154 pc. Mechanics Tool Set

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that there looks like a good deal. i'll have to check that one out or add it to the ol' christmas list. i have some craftsman tools but most of them are still at my old garage at my parents house from long ago. I might just get somethin like this so i have a complete working set. i can't tell you how many socket sets/box wrench sets i've found missing only the 10's and 12's hahaha
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Re: Please help with clutch master cylinder swap

I used long extensions, deep wall socket, and U-Joints. It wasnt too bad to do even with my big hands.
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Re: Please help with clutch master cylinder swap

Installing a master cylinder is a bitch. The under the hood part isnt bad. Just take off the clutch fluid resivoir and disconnect everything. But inside was the hard part. Having to crawl in there and loosen everything. The main problem though was taking out the cotter pin... And putting it back in was even worse. But all in all it only took about an hour including the 15 minute calm down period i needed lol
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heres a perfect write up i found
How-To: Replace Clutch Master Cylinder - Honda-Tech
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I just spent the larger part of the day working on this. Clutch pedal was stuck to the floor, and piston behind the clutch pedal going into the bulkhead was dripping gunk. Tried refilling with fluid and bleeding to no effect.

I actually did not have too much trouble getting the MC removed and put back in. I ended up taking out my seat so that I could lie back under the dash to work on the cotter pin and such. The biggest issue I had was getting the clutch pin back through the whole once the new MC was in. The cotter was not a big deal with needle-nose pliers.

The only problem is that I cannot for the life of me get the main fluid line screwed back into the MC itself!! I know that the teeth of the of the line screw are fine and they have to be aligned just right, but I spent two hours and cannot get the screw to start tightening around the line insert! Anybody that has any suggestions please let me know!!!

On a related note, I pulled and replaced the slave cylinder too, and am having the same problem getting the main line screwed in there!!

The screw teeth do not look stripped and I never applied to much force when removing, so I have no idea why I cannot get it to catch and tighten!!
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Re: Please help with clutch master cylinder swap

i had no problems with the fluid lines. ill go back and check how i did it
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for future ref. guys, when i did my clutch mc i ended up using a small screw in place of the cotter pin :)
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Re: Please help with clutch master cylinder swap

Do you have to replace both the master and slave? I have a slow leak in somewhere in the clutch hydraulics but I'm cheap and would rather just replace what needs to be replaced. I'm not sure how to pin point where the leak is coming from either.
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Re: Please help with clutch master cylinder swap

I have a 92 I just bought.... everything has been done to it in the last 20k miles but the clutch master and now I hear the horror stories of needing chinaman hands lol.... I am 6'2 245lbs and wear a size 11.5 ring on my pinky...... anybody feel like changing my clutch master lmao (really scratchin my head)
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