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Old 11-28-2009, 05:03 PM
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Auto>Manual conversion: 1 driveshaft not going in.

Just at the stage now where we're putting the driveshafts back in. The short one that goes into the manual gearbox slams in fine.
That was the one I thought would give problems if any.

But it seems that the other side is the issue. The longer driveshaft has a bracket on it that takes 3 bolts.
If we don't line up the bracket and let it dangle, the driveshaft goes in perfect.
If we rotate the bracket to line up with the body, the driveshaft won't engage all the way in. Can't work that one out. Everything on that side of the engine is original from when the car was auto.

Anyone else had this issue ?
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Re: Auto>Manual conversion: 1 driveshaft not going in.

i could be wrong here, but maybe the autos use a different half shaft.
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Re: Auto>Manual conversion: 1 driveshaft not going in.

I did read in a couple of the swap articles that the driveshafts from the auto could still be used.

The weird thing is though that the drivers side shaft is slotting into the cars original parts.
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Re: Auto>Manual conversion: 1 driveshaft not going in.

Sounds like something is bent. Either the outdrive of the trans, intermitent shaft, or engine trans alignment.
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I did read in a couple of the swap articles that the driveshafts from the auto could still be used.

The weird thing is though that the drivers side shaft is slotting into the cars original parts.
Yep, supposedly you can use the auto's
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Re: Auto>Manual conversion: 1 driveshaft not going in.

just to get the obvious outta the way, you know that's a 2 piece driveshaft right? put the half-shaft in the tranny, mount on the 3 bolts, THEN connect the outter driveshaft.
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ca ching, that would help.
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Re: Auto>Manual conversion: 1 driveshaft not going in.

Dang!! I got here too late. Lol. Yeah man, u gotta get a base driver side half shaft from a 5spd lude. If ur still having problems then we'll try 2 figure out whats going on.
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Re: Auto>Manual conversion: 1 driveshaft not going in.

ok this is whats going on...

I didnt buy a manual shaft because the read-up articles said you can use the ones from the auto.
Thing is the passenger side shaft, which is the one that slots into the manual gearbox, is the one that goes in fine using my original driveshaft.

The long driveshaft (the intermediate one) which goes in on the drivers side is not engaging with the support bracket in place.

We have removed the support bracket from the shaft by heating it up.

It appears that the part number on the support bracket is different on the auto and manual car.

So we are guessing that the bracket is shaped differently in that it's 'legs' should be shorter. The shaft is out by about 2-3cms.

The shaft will engage into the gearbox on its own, no problem. But if you place the support bracket up against the engine then the part of the shaft that goes through the bracket is out by 2-3cms.

I hope I am explaining myself ok.

Can anyone confirm that the bracket on the manual car is shorter 'leg-wise' than on the auto ?

Why isn't this mentioned in any of the articles I came across ??


When I read about getting a driveshaft from a manual car I would have assumed it would have been the passenger side one. This is so weird.

http://www.preludeonline.com/attachm...9901-parts.pdf

If you look at the PDF file you will see the part I want to replace. I have 22hrs before I have to place the order.

The page with all the parts on is from the auto car. All parts listed are the same on the manual according to my dealer.
The page with the bracket on, on its own, is the manual car. Slight difference in part number.
So I will be ordering all the checked (ticked) parts. and using the original driveshaft. Does that work ?
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Re: Auto>Manual conversion: 1 driveshaft not going in.

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just to get the obvious outta the way, you know that's a 2 piece driveshaft right? put the half-shaft in the tranny, mount on the 3 bolts, THEN connect the outter driveshaft.
Yeah we split the driveshaft into its 2 parts. Slotted the first part into the gearbox, then when we put the 3-bolted support in place (which we removed from the shaft for measuring purposes, the shaft was about 2-3cms away from the hole.

With the support attached to the shaft already, the shaft will not engage into the gearbox with the support aligned up ready to bolt on.


How does getting this part from the manual car help ? Surely it would be the same deal ?

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Re: Auto>Manual conversion: 1 driveshaft not going in.

Quickie question...

I'm looking at buying this to go into my car....
Honda Prelude 92-01 H22A Intermediate Halfshaft Axle:eBay Motors (item 380176904418 end time Dec-11-09 12:15:36 PST)

Now it says not for automatic transmission and Type SH cars.

Well now that I've swapped I think I can class my car as manual now it has the M2V5 gearbox mounted in it.

Is the reason why it isn't suitable for Type SH cars because of the ATTS ?

Type SH isnt available in Europe and I don't know, other than ATTS, what the differences are between that and my Euro spec 2.2 VTi 4WS (apart from 4WS too of course).
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Re: Auto>Manual conversion: 1 driveshaft not going in.

Wow, if yours was just a base model prelude then I could help u out more. But i know that the blocks from the base prelude and sh's are just a tad bit different. Thats really about all I can help u out with man. Maybe somebody with more knowledge of the euro specs can help u out?
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