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Switch OBD1 to OBD2?

ok so here me out. what all would i need to do, to change a obd1 h22a to obd2? because i've got a 98 and wanna do a swap but the obd2 engines are alot more then the obd1 engines..

and dont get me wrong i know obd1 is better off for tuning, and i plan on running obd1 at some point.

btw i'm looking at this http://www.japanmotorimport.com/JDM_...%20block_92-95
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Re: Switch OBD1 to OBD2?

why not convert to OBD1 now and be done with it? dizzy, conversion harness, ECU, (and injectors i think??)
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Re: Switch OBD1 to OBD2?

i dunno, i guess i was thinking it would be easier to keep my stock harness.. or is there any diff between the two?
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Re: Switch OBD1 to OBD2?

I don't know about how to convert to obd2.. but I also say don't bother... if you want to be ready to mod and tune later, just go obd1 now...

and 800 is a nice deal, if it's a nice engine...
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Re: Switch OBD1 to OBD2?

http://www.phearable.net/tech/wiring...istributor.jpg

This should help you out once you have gotten a obd 1 dizzy. It is what i used for my Blue top also with help from "twokexlv6coupe".
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This should help you out once you have gotten a obd 1 dizzy. It is what i used for my Blue top also with help from "twokexlv6coupe".

FUK ME!! i never had that link when i did mine, i had to figure it out myself for like 2 days!!! grrrrr
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Re: Switch OBD1 to OBD2?

ok so then question, wouldnt it be easier to just swap the dizzy out then? rather then try and repin the plug for it?
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Re: Switch OBD1 to OBD2?

If you swap the dizzy out you will have to install ckp and tdc sensors(crank angle sensors).

Edit: this is if you are to swapping your OBD 2 dizzy on to the JDM motor.
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ok so then question, wouldnt it be easier to just swap the dizzy out then? rather then try and repin the plug for it?
cuz the plugs on the OBD1 dizzy don't directly connect to the plugs on the OBD2 harness, you gotta rewire the harness w/ OBD1 connectors. you'll understand it easier once you have the two dizzy's side by side

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If you swap the dizzy out you will have to install ckp and tdc sensors(crank angle sensors). Also swap balancer shaft for a usdm one.

Edit: this is if you are to swapping your OBD 2 dizzy on to the JDM motor.

balance shaft? why? i didn't hafta do that. you thinkin of the oil pump?
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Edit: this is if you are to swapping your OBD 2 dizzy on to the JDM motor.
ahhh ok. make sense.

ya why would i have to change out the balance shaft? considering alot of people dont run them at all
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ya why would i have to change out the balance shaft? considering alot of people dont run them at all
you don't.

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balance shaft? why? i didn't hafta do that. you thinkin of the oil pump?
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yea i got a little to ahead of myself
you need to install the OBD1 oil pump cuz thats where the CKP and TDC sensors are, which are the 4 wires you gotta extend from the dizzy connectors
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you need to install the OBD1 oil pump cuz thats where the CKP and TDC sensors are, which are the 4 wires you gotta extend from the dizzy connectors
but if i'm buying a obd1 motor then it should already have the right oil pump on it. right?


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oh yea durrr then you don't gotta do the oil pump lmao.

if you have the money, i'd say h23a, more baller/unique.
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oh yea durrr then you don't gotta do the oil pump lmao.

if you have the money, i'd say h23a, more baller/unique.
ya thats what i'm thinkin too, plus it would be kinda funny to see guys faces when i tell them i'm just running a h23.. (get asked all time by guys driving civics/integra back home)

and i'm deployed to iraq right now, so ya i've got the money to do it..

ok so then if i do the h23 would i still be able to run the same header? because i have a esp 4-2-1 header being made right now.. (time to ditch the DC one!!! )

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dont'ca hate when that sht happens[/QUOTE]

How could i hate when the blue top is sitting in my engine bay right now.
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no i meant hate when the price drops right after you buy something..
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so since you have one, guessing you would know. can you still run any h22 header? ie: the esp header
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Re: Switch OBD1 to OBD2?

Yea it should work no problem all bolt ons are the same for the h23a i havent heard of anyone with the esp header so im curious on what the results are i am running a SMSP replica
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Re: Switch OBD1 to OBD2?

ya i've heard good things about the esp, so i cant wait to get it, and see how it is.

what are doing to your h23a? just bolt ons?
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im split between my two cars my 2jz 240sx and h23a prelude i want the honda to be all motor DD but theres alot that goes into having a h23a
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Re: Switch OBD1 to OBD2?

2jz 240 holy shiiiiiitttttt hahahaah
pics of that when u get a chance!!
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ill bring it to the meet when i get back to the states in march
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Re: Switch OBD1 to OBD2?

ya i wanna see that. that'd be pretty sick.

think 210whp is possible with the h23a? with just bolt ons(basically whats in my sig) and a tune

edit: with a ESP 4-2-1 header on it, not the dc pos
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I honestly dont know, you need to also equate in the ecu and proper tune
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Re: Switch OBD1 to OBD2?

ya i'm looking into a guy to tune it already. one of the local shops is gonna do the whole thing for me.. and then gonna try and time it for them to dyno it while i'm home on leave.

ahh it would be nice to go home and have it already in and running! :)
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I know the feeling i made myself put in both motors before i left because i knew while i was deployed i would think about it non stop
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